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smilingtearz
11-25-2005, 02:35 PM
Men can be so wierd...one moment they make you so happy and the next moment all they say or do seems so sensless that it annoys!...i dunno y i started a new thread for this...guess i shud have written this in the random thought of the day thread??
but this ain't random!!..men really can be unpredictable! :crash: :flare:
AimusSage
11-25-2005, 02:46 PM
Yes we are, because women like it that way. :p Predictable people are boring.
Outlander
11-25-2005, 02:52 PM
Sorry, fresh out ace.
smilingtearz
11-25-2005, 02:55 PM
Urgh!! Urghh!!
AimusSage
11-25-2005, 02:58 PM
Lol, don't take it to hard, I know my gender can be annoying at times, but it is genetics, we can't really help it, 10.000 years of history can't be changed in a day.
starrwriter
11-25-2005, 03:42 PM
Men can be so wierd...one moment they make you so happy and the next moment all they say or do seems so sensless that it annoys!...i dunno y i started a new thread for this...guess i shud have written this in the random thought of the day thread?? but this ain't random!!..men really can be unpredictable!
If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black! Unpredictable is part of female biology. Ever heard of PMS? Up one minute, down the next, like a rollercoaster ride. All we men can do is duck before the runaway rollercoaster jumps its tracks.
emily655321
11-25-2005, 05:01 PM
Starrwriter, when I get PMS I just get a tummyache... I think the woman you know must just be crazy. :lol:
Now, have you ever heard of testosterone? ;) Those are some fun moodswings, right there.
RococoLocket
11-25-2005, 05:37 PM
Starrwriter, when I get PMS I just get a tummyache... I think the woman you know must just be crazy. :lol:
Now, have you ever heard of testosterone? ;) Those are some fun moodswings, right there.
When I get PMS I become an utter loon, it has to be said; I sit and cry at the daytime TV programs, especially Neighbours, Doctors and Diagnosis Murder :lol: ... and this is an improvement since I started the pill, ROFL. My poor Bf :p ... and my mum actually, I usually spend the whole time screaming and shouting her ... ahh, sweet sweet ovaries ...
It is also a recently medical fact that men have an emotional time 'o the month too :nod:
starrwriter
11-25-2005, 08:26 PM
It is also a recently medical fact that men have an emotional time 'o the month too.
Yeah, extreme anxiety when their "sweetheart" goes into PMS mode.
Og the caveman says:
"Testosterone good. Make Og brave for big hunt.
"PMS bad. Make Og hide from Nof, crazy wife."
simon
11-25-2005, 09:55 PM
Gender bashers, I don't think one sex can call the other unpredictable without taking into account the others inpredictability. They are just two differnt types of crazies caused by two different hormones-- anything else is just personality.
emily655321
11-26-2005, 02:34 AM
Yay Simon! It's good to see you. :D
smilingtearz
11-26-2005, 03:47 AM
i never thought this thread wud turn out to be a discussion on PMS!!...n guys seem to think they know more about that topic than we gurls do!
Outlander
11-26-2005, 09:34 AM
Well, Pardon my absence ma'am, but I feels that I owe you
some ex'plination. So if you'll jes' sit back n'read, I'll git on with it.
I have walked the fence of my old co'ral one too many times, dear girl.
So's it's be'come a habit that when I gets to feeling tired,
I takes me a sit down on the big rock. Now I know we gots rattlers here,
but in that mornin' fog I just forgot to be a lookin'.
Well, here comes that ole' snake (wouldn't cha' know it, same one
that bit my back side more times than I care to re'call)
He come up jest as bold as he could be, and bit me smack on a vein!
Well that joker went to squirting everywhere, And I went to
hollerin' like a school girl. (pardon my insult to school girls ma'am)
but, that's how it was. So theres I am standin' out in my field,
Leg just a squirtin' like bull piss.
Now, truth be told, I know I had me a long walk back to the ole' log cabin.
I could see it in the distance just on the edge of that there ho'rizon.
(wood stove was still pumping out smoke, which was good,
cause at that point I started too feelin' really cold)
anyway,...there I was a limpin' and a squirtin', and it had been rainin'
for days, so that red mud was as thick as Mo'lasses.
Well wouldn't cha' know it, halfway to that Ho'rizon, the world
began to start a spinnin'an before I knew it, I found
myself lying face down in the mud of that red dirt road.
Not havin' the strength to lift myself, and no longer knowing
why I would bother (snake bite on a vein'll do that to ya)
I jes' lay there.
Now, bare with me darlin', I never felt myself to have a great mind,
(or it could have been a matter of unconsciuosness),
but the next thing I re'member
I was a sittin' in the most comfortable rockin' chair.
My leg all swollen n'black and in some places
it had taken' to lookin' like a pig thats been dead too long.
(and, I did get me the urge to poke it with a stick, but I re'sisted.)
I tried to keep this long story short, ma'am, but sometimes these
things happen. anyway...
Some dang hippie had showed up and took me to the ole' vets office,
and I got treated right proper like. Somethin' on my clothes smells
a bit funny, an I'm bettin' it's got everythin' to do with what that hippie
was smokin'. But seein' is, he done dun me a favor by savin' my life and all,
I'll not hold it against him.
So's next time, you gets to thinking peoples done put you
on ig'nore, Jes' remember my story and Think Of Me.
Outlander
RobinHood3000
11-26-2005, 11:37 AM
Why not make it simple? PEOPLE in general are unpredictable. That's the way we are. Wouldn't it be a dull (and deterministic) world it would be if everyone's actions, in a given situation, could inherently be predicted?
smilingtearz
11-26-2005, 11:49 AM
mebbe u guys are right...i shudn't be mad over the "unpredictability" of anyone (even if they're GUYS!)...
and Outlander tha was a gud peice...and sumwhere u do know why it fits in here even if u don't lemme juz tell u it fits in here really well
Outlander
11-26-2005, 12:38 PM
Life life happens Dear girl
How boring it would be
were it not for the "Unpredictables"
The Fit was For You, and it gave me pleasure to see that you noticed it.
Patience, SmilingTearz. ~Life itself is Unpredictable.
Outlander
Smilingtearz, you should try reading Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. It's been helping me understand my husband (and him me), and there are even things about myself that I wasn't aware of.
ho'nehe
11-26-2005, 09:19 PM
The Hood's right! smilingtearz :) If we were all so predictable it would be a very boring world... but doesn't it make you as mad as hell when its someone you care about :-D
If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black! Unpredictable is part of female biology. Ever heard of PMS? Up one minute, down the next, like a rollercoaster ride. All we men can do is duck before the runaway rollercoaster jumps its tracks.
I'm actually like that ALL the time, regardless of my biologic situation, so to speak. To the point that I'm not able to predict if it's PMS time or not.
Btw there is a kind of men which I call PMS men... they are WORSE than me on my most hysterical moments.
People are all unpredictable, right. And if they're not, they're probably boring.
Men are just mainly some selfish beings who think too much of themselves to ever care of a female besides her physical attributes. And I'm not going to get involved in another man/woman discussion, just take me as a man-phobic spinster and ignore me.
smilingtearz
11-27-2005, 01:21 PM
~@Koa~
Lolz...that cud cheer anyone having an unpredictable-men-problem like me!
~@Shea~
I know men & women both are equally unpredictable...but u know like Ho'nehe said it can piss u off so bad when its someone u care for...or a friend who behaves in such a way!
btw women do as much as they can to NOT HURT the opposite sex!! and men...
Are we getting serious here?
Perhaps, instead of typecasting a whole, err, gender, one can try a more realistic approach - focusing on individuals, instead of the other way round.
But then again, assinging collective blame is always a nice (not to mention easier) way of getting the rancor out of your system. :)
smilingtearz
11-27-2005, 01:51 PM
lolz..thaz so true...so men collectively are...
But then again, assinging collective blame is always a nice (not to mention easier) way of getting the rancor out of your system. :)
That's how you have to read the irrational flow of insults and bitterness that I can't help uttering as soon as I have to comment on the word 'MAN' and the concept it represents.
:D
RobinHood3000
11-27-2005, 02:13 PM
Hmm...thanks, that makes me feel a whole lot better about being a guy :p . Is "misandristic" a word?
baddad
11-27-2005, 02:17 PM
Yes, people are weird, unpredictable, both men and women. This will NEVER change. So love it, hate it, misunderstand it......but get over it. Life is too short. Worry about something important...like.........umm..........why do men have nipples??
RobinHood3000
11-27-2005, 02:29 PM
Was that rhetorical? Because I have an answer. :p
Oh, and the last post was my mistake--the correct form is "misandry."
Nightshade
11-27-2005, 02:31 PM
you know when I was liitle I used to watch a program called inquiring minds (I think?) anyway they did a show about it once and it was somthing like female is the domminat gender (utter rubbish as it only takes one y chromsone and 2 Xs) but anyway everyone basicly starts out as female in the first 3 months or somthing odd like that and then they develop sexual organs last somthing like that anyway.
*please note this is the memory of a bright but none the less very ignorant 9 year old 9 years later so errors probable*
:D
smilingtearz
11-27-2005, 02:32 PM
I wouldn't mine the answer on this thread....go ahead robinhood...assuming the question to be rhetorical if u please :D
RobinHood3000
11-27-2005, 02:35 PM
Well, every embryo starts out with the default hardwiring for female, requiring the activation of certain chemicals to switch over to male. By then, however, nipples have already formed, and subsequently appear in humans regardless of sex.
AimusSage
11-27-2005, 05:31 PM
On the subject of Men versus women, a very interesting read can be found here: http://www.exitmundi.nl/giggle.htm
Anyway , the article shows women are really just big bullies on a genetic level, that likes to beat us men. So, that means all women are really mean people. :D
Brilliant Aimus... I am a bully and I love to beat men... so I'll have to agree with that :nod: :D
and there is NO sarcasm in this
RobinHood3000
11-27-2005, 06:20 PM
Brilliant Aimus... I am a bully and I love to beat men... so I'll have to agree with that :nod: :D
and there is NO sarcasm in this
In the immortal words of the Knights of the Round Table, a la Monty Python...
Run away!! Run away!!
*looks around with a threatening look in her eyes while looking for some male being to vent her anger on* :D
baddad
11-27-2005, 06:39 PM
Aimussage.....wickedly cool article...............ain't science grand!!
RobinHood3000
11-27-2005, 07:00 PM
*looks around with a threatening look in her eyes while looking for some male being to vent her anger on* :D
Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick ME!!
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...just out of curiosity, why ARE you so angry at us?
Ho'nehe[/b] said it can piss u off so bad when its someone u care for...or a friend who behaves in such a way!
btw women do as much as they can to NOT HURT the opposite sex!! and men...
That's why that book is great, it helps you understand the rationale of the opposite sex and why they say or do the things they do because it really is just their nature. Trust me, Leo and I had some rocky points there for a while, but things are much better because we are understanding why we are unpredictable.
starrwriter
11-27-2005, 11:57 PM
That's why that book is great, it helps you understand the rationale of the opposite sex and why they say or do the things they do because it really is just their nature.
I've never read "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus," but I love the apt title and I can understand why we need such a book. Sort of a user's manual for dealing with alien creatures. It's amusing to note that authors of the Bible explained our conflicts as the result of a curse from God: "And God placed enmity between man and woman." I don't personally believe that, but sometimes it seems like Nature has played an evil trick on us.
smilingtearz
11-28-2005, 07:45 AM
Guess i HAVE to read the book now!!
Outlander
11-28-2005, 07:51 AM
Yes Nature, the mother of motive - Don't Get Me Going On Her!
The Womans caused more problems...........
(Now, Read slowly ya'll, thats how I type.)
Jes' the other day, I was a lookin' at beautiful lady.
She had her a long dress on, Tan (I think)
-But it weren't the color I was a lookin' at. (to be honest and all)
She had herself some of that long wavy hair, Jes' a blowing in the wind.
(Now if I was woman, I would have to admit that
she looked like she jes' stepped out of a douche commercial.
But, I'm not, so I won't.)
Anyway....I got to looking at her jes' in time, too see a
small orange Car'nation come a flying my way,
Bein' that I was a gazin' on the lords fine work, my eyes were
wide open to all that would enter them, (Including that car'nation)
That joker looked as big as a fist when it smacked me in the eye.
well....By the time I got my com'posure back, she was gone.
I be'held one of the Lords finest creatures,
And just bein' a creature myself, I de'veloped some motives,
and Mother nature, being the sort a Mother she is,
saw fit to seein', that I didn't git 'round to seein' to it.
So...she and I got some issues.
But, I still got me that flower.
Outlander
smilingtearz
11-28-2005, 08:35 AM
That's too musch of Generalising outlander...ur getting mother nature into this ..well OF course nature is unpredictable!
Outlander
11-28-2005, 09:33 AM
Pre'cisely ~
AimusSage
11-28-2005, 12:37 PM
I believe nature to be random, and as a result unpredictable. Such wonders can be found in randomness. It is what makes the world turn round. It is all arbitrary. The people you meet, the things you do, so why is it we still care so much about those people and the things we do? That's the wonder of randomness. It doesn't have to make sense to be real.
I don't think that actually made sense, but it is relevant to the topic. The differences between men and women are the so cool because they actually shouldn't matter at all. On a purely rational level, it should just be about the continuation of the species. But when emotions come into it, we get threads like this one, that are so wonderful because it shows the complexities of nature.
I think... :confused:
smilingtearz
11-28-2005, 12:43 PM
don't be confused...ur thinkin is quite apt...unpredictability is complex...and so is life...
AimusSage
11-28-2005, 12:53 PM
Yes, it's just that sometimes I loose the goal of my writing midway, leading to some very confusing result. It is not uncommon for me to suddenly continue on a completely different topic in the middle of a conversation.
smilingtearz
11-28-2005, 01:03 PM
Yes, it's just that sometimes I loose the goal of my writing midway, leading to some very confusing result. It is not uncommon for me to suddenly continue on a completely different topic in the middle of a conversation.
LOL :lol:
try practiscing and stickin to one subject...and anyways no comments..aren't u a guy??...read the thread title again...guys just manage to show unpredictability just abt anywhere :D (NO OFFENCES!)
AimusSage
11-28-2005, 01:24 PM
Well, unpredictability is what makes me human. The rest of me just happens to be very similar to a humanoid male, and yes the thread title confirms what you say. Men are unpredictable. Maybe we have a temperal loop manipulating the forum that brings us right back to the beginning.
Countess
11-28-2005, 01:43 PM
I am the most rational of all creatures, the most predictable and self-consistent - except for three days out of the month. At that time, I howl at the moon, cry a million tears and want to die. Every month so far I have survived it, but I keep waiting for that month I'm vulnerable and the knife too easy to grasp....
Countess
RobinHood3000
11-28-2005, 06:01 PM
Long live the Countess!! And woe upon any men in her path!
starrwriter
11-28-2005, 11:01 PM
I am the most rational of all creatures, the most predictable and self-consistent - except for three days out of the month. At that time, I howl at the moon, cry a million tears and want to die. Every month so far I have survived it, but I keep waiting for that month I'm vulnerable and the knife too easy to grasp....
To me a woman howling at the moon is kind of sexy. ;)
Have a friend hide your knives once a month. In a few decades you won't have to put up with it anymore. Then you'll have hot flashes and all the other symptoms of menopause. Ain't nature grand?
smilingtearz
11-29-2005, 01:25 PM
Uhuh?..........
baddad
11-30-2005, 03:00 AM
I'm a man. Today I was unpredictable. I think. But perhaps the 'gods' knew in advance what I would be up to and deigned to let me live within the illusion. I find the latter possibility distasteful. I wish to be anything but predictable. Certainly life holds the possibilities of many conformities..........but I'd rather not......but you can still love me......
Kaltrina
11-30-2005, 05:09 AM
I wish to be anything but predictable
I agree with Baddad. I don't like being predictable and I also hate when the opposite sex is predictable, because that is boring, anything you get without fighting I think it is boring, there is no fun in knowing all in advance... I know I sound as if i am supporting men's opinions but I can really be bad and annoying when I have my PMS. I cry, I laugh, I am angry at everyone in the same time, I don't even understand myself so how can I expect someone to understand me... I know men are sometimes too unpredictable so that they make you crazy but if you look closely you can find out everything without asking, they are not so unpredictable as they think they are, we are the ones who give them credit... :D
RobinHood3000
11-30-2005, 06:34 AM
I agree, I don't like being TOO predictable, but at the same time, nonconformity for its own sake is an evil in the opposite extreme.
smilingtearz
11-30-2005, 07:33 AM
conclusion...women've got PMS for a few days in a month...
Guys 've got it forever???...(eww that sounds digusting)
...this thread 's turning to be a chat on PMS!!
Nightshade
11-30-2005, 08:55 AM
maybe men are predictable in they will be unpradictable wasnt there somone who said the only thing you can be sure of is you can never be sure of anything.
or somthing like that
If there is anything that my husband is predicatble about, it's food. Yesterday, I was running late and there was nothing but small yogurt cups that I could eat on the way to work, but I knew that wasn't going to keep me going till lunch. So I was looking in the pantry and wondering why I never buy breakfast bars for such mornings, and then I remembered, I used to buy them, but then stopped because I never got any of them. He would have eaten them all by the next day!
I'm so happy we read that book (well I'm not quite finished). I calmly told him about how I was so hungry before lunch and he promised to try to keep himself from eating all the cereal bars if I bought some more. Normally he would get really defensive because I would complain about his bad eating habits and we'd start fighting. But this time our voices and blood pressures remained low. I'm so proud of us! I just had to share that.
smilingtearz
11-30-2005, 02:35 PM
I can't believe the way this thread is still alive!! *surprised *...!I started this out of frustration on a guy...and look how its going!!
U people just rock!...u can talk on just abt anything!
Nightshade
11-30-2005, 02:37 PM
yesterday when I was book shoping I actually saw it Men are from mars and.... and I thought Ohh should I buy it but then decided not to Im not married dont have a boyfriend and have no intenion of getting one ( that sounds bad somehow) so I wouldnt spend =money on it.
I did discover somthing though today IM 18 years old and my dad still cant spell my name!!
and I know it was the password on his computer at one time :rolleyes:
smilingtearz
11-30-2005, 02:49 PM
aww..that musn't be a particularly fascinating discovery...but it happens..and we can excuse "daddy" from being a bit forgetful sometimes...right?
and as they say...what's in a name....just to modify that a bit...
What's in the spelling of a name...what actually matters is the pronounciation!
btw ur just 18?
starrwriter
11-30-2005, 02:56 PM
yesterday when I was book shoping I actually saw it Men are from mars and.... and I thought Ohh should I buy it but then decided not to Im not married dont have a boyfriend and have no intenion of getting one ( that sounds bad somehow) so I wouldnt spend =money on it.
I did discover somthing though today IM 18 years old and my dad still cant spell my name!! and I know it was the password on his computer at one time.
Happy birthday!
About the boyfriend you have no intention of finding: he'll find you eventually unless you hide in a nunnery. Take my word for it.
And don't fret about your dad. My mother always told me I was adopted, but I knew she was just being sarcastic.
Nightshade
11-30-2005, 02:56 PM
yeah just literally as in less than 3 months ago why??
then agin when I was 14 I was trying to buy a ticket into the Cairo annuel bookfair and the ticket seller was like look Ill let you in for free you see this woman shes a match maker can we have your name and address ...*yeah right!* I shouted at him! It was afterall only 50piasters (cents pennies whateversentrance fee)
starrwriter
11-30-2005, 04:18 PM
yeah just literally as in less than 3 months ago why??
then agin when I was 14 I was trying to buy a ticket into the Cairo annuel bookfair and the ticket seller was like look Ill let you in for free you see this woman shes a match maker can we have your name and address ...*yeah right!* I shouted at him! It was afterall only 50 piasters (cents pennies whatevers entrance fee)
You're Egyptian! (I wish members would put country of origin in their profiles so I can avoid inappropriate remarks.)
Star's right Nightshade, when I stopped looking is when I met my husband. :D Anyway when you do meet someone, you should really pick that book up even if it's from the library, you don't have to be married to need to read it. :nod:
Nightshade
12-01-2005, 07:55 AM
You're Egyptian! (I wish members would put country of origin in their profiles so I can avoid inappropriate remarks.)
Only half (and my passport says Im a british member of the EU) Im a cross culture child. I only lived in cairo for 5 years anyway so its not really inapporiate remark just wrong. :D
and seeing as Ive lived on 3 continets before my 17th birthday I kind of dont know where I belong.
:D
oh Im not looking for a husband thats my philosphy if Im going to meet someone Ill do it whether I mean to or not and I probably will borrow it from the library Im sure Ive seen it on the shelves somewhere.
Star no It wasnt my birthday just my bad punctation I should have said I discover somthing today, though I am 18 my dad ha yet to learn to spell my name.
and how come I didnt see your post earlier.
smilingtearz
12-01-2005, 10:41 AM
**edited post**
wrong post here!
Wut's wrong with me today ...guess im a bit sleepy...too sleepy! :yawnb:
smilingtearz
12-01-2005, 10:43 AM
:lol:..................
smilingtearz
12-01-2005, 10:50 AM
call it PMS!...
GAWD! i have no idea wut im doing!! :confused:
guess i shud go and sleep! URGH!
starrwriter
12-01-2005, 02:47 PM
...seeing as Ive lived on 3 continents before my 17th birthday I kind of dont know where I belong.
I grew up in one small town and hated it so much I left as soon as I graduated from high school. I returned for two brief visits over the next few years before I decided I never wanted to see the place again.
You seem rather sad about moving around. I wish I could have lived on 3 continents before I was 17. To me that sounds like an exciting and adventurous childhood. I was dying of boredom in my little hometown.
Later I lived in 5 U.S. states and 1 foreign country. I also vacationed in many other states and 9 foreign countries. My life has been much more interesting since I started moving around. Home is where the heart is, not a fixed geographical location. You "belong" wherever your heart sends you.
Nightshade
12-01-2005, 04:23 PM
Oh I generally like it its just sadly and Im not being pathetic in a -oh pity me kind of way- I dont have any real people real life friends Anymore. But I love the moving the oh wow this is a new house/new place kind of feel.
Star's right Nightshade, when I stopped looking is when I met my husband.
If I hear (read) that sentence again I'm going to kill someone. It's B U L L S H I T! It's a damn cliche! It's an empty circumstance sentence!And I dont care if it happened to you, it doesnt mean it's a rule!!! :rage:
There's nothing more annoying than hearing that. Together with "of course you dont have a boyfriend, you dont do anything about it, go to the disco and put some make-up on if you really want one". It's the subconscious way that people who have relationships use to make a fool of people with a disastrous love-life.
Don't take it personally, Shea, I would have reacted the same to anyone else.
And I'm not going to discuss this further.
starrwriter
12-02-2005, 06:37 PM
[Having a fit]
Here's my two cents: compulsively searching for a mate is an act of desperation and wisdom teaches us not to do desperate things. They never lead to anything good.
I won't take it personally ;) and I don't expect you to discuss it further, but I just wanted to say that I don't agree either with getting yourself made up and going to clubs (discos) just because that's what people say that your supposed to do. I would be terribly uncomfortable in such situations and would probably never run across anyone with whom I had anything in common with. I've always believed that if you try to be someone you're not even though it's expected because of what society values, you're likely to be very unhappy. If you make yourself happy first, then society will start to value you instead.
baddad
12-03-2005, 06:20 AM
I won't take it personally ;) and I don't expect you to discuss it further, but I just wanted to say that I don't agree either with getting yourself made up and going to clubs (discos) just because that's what people say that your supposed to do. I would be terribly uncomfortable in such situations and would probably never run across anyone with whom I had anything in common with. I've always believed that if you try to be someone you're not even though it's expected because of what society values, you're likely to be very unhappy. If you make yourself happy first, then society will start to value you instead.
.....I truly love smart people.....................harp players or not...... *bow to Shea*
*hug for Koa* ....its GREAT to be 'older'........
Carpe Deim...........BE YOURSELF................ two great and powerful platitudes....
.....I truly love smart people.....................harp players or not...... *bow to Shea*
I will pass the bow on to my mothers ;) . I'm not smart unless you count the fact that I've fully listened to the advice of my mom and step-mom through the years :). They are the two of the smartest women I know.
Pensive
12-03-2005, 10:50 AM
I will pass the bow on to my mothers ;) . I'm not smart unless you count the fact that I've fully listened to the advice of my mom and step-mom through the years :). They are the two of the smartest women I know.
Wow, I have never seen anyone who respects her/his STEP MOTHER very much.
I call both my step-parents Mom and Dad too. Sometimes it gets very confusing when I'm trying to talk about them ("which mom...?" "which dad...?"), but all four of them had a good hand in raising me and I couldn't consider them as anything less. If my birth parents made too rash a decision in marrying each other, they certainly learned from their mistakes and found more suitable persons for themselves later.
Here's my two cents: compulsively searching for a mate is an act of desperation and wisdom teaches us not to do desperate things. They never lead to anything good.
Sure, my wisdom has led me to giving up, several times. I'm just fed up with hearing cliches.
I don't give a damn anymore, at least not in that sense... and Shea, I will never do what people tell me I should do, though being oneself often doesnt pay...I'm too good for them you know ;););):D:D:D
smilingtearz
12-12-2005, 11:19 AM
why do guys get so possesive about friends?...like over-possesive!
starrwriter
12-12-2005, 11:41 AM
why do guys get so possesive about friends?...like over-possesive!
Because we don't want to share you with anyone else. We want you all to ourselves. :brow:
RobinHood3000
12-12-2005, 07:19 PM
We like being knights in shining armor. Makes us feel like we have something to aim for to prove our worth.
samercury
12-12-2005, 08:49 PM
..knights.... :goof:....right
Nightshade
12-13-2005, 06:09 AM
Im agreeing with Samer here
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/667.gif
RobinHood3000
12-13-2005, 06:56 AM
Okay, let me rephrase that--we like WISHING we were knights in shining armor. Properly polished plate mail is very slimming.
smilingtearz
12-13-2005, 08:58 AM
Makes us feel like we have something to aim for to prove our worth.
more than proving to us...it seems like ur reassuring urself that ur MEN!! :D
AimusSage
12-13-2005, 09:32 AM
All I need to reassure myself I am a man is look down once in a while. :p
about knights in shining armour, a knight also has a blade. Chivalry is nice and all, but sometimes people need to be reassured by a flash of the blade.
smilingtearz
12-13-2005, 11:10 AM
Men Are Hard To Please
The problems with GUYS:
If u TREAT him nicely, he says u are IN LOVE with him;
If u Don't, he says u are PROUD.
If u DRESS Nicely, he says u are trying to LURE him;
If u Don't, he says u are from KAMPUNG.
If u ARGUE with him, he says u are STUBBORN;
If u keep QUIET, he says u have no BRAINS.
If u are SMARTER than him, he'll lose FACE;
If he's Smarter than u, he is GREAT.
If u don't Love him, he tries to POSSESS u;
If u Love him, he will try to LEAVE u.(very true huh?)
If u don't make love with him., he says u don't Love him;
If u do!! he says u are CHEAP.
If u tell him your PROBLEM, he says u are TROUBLESOME;
If u don't, he says that u don't TRUST him.
If u SCOLD him, u are like a NANNY to him;
If he SCOLDS u, it is because he CARES for u.
If u BREAK your PROMISE, u Cannot be TRUSTED;
If he BREAKS his, he is FORCED to do so.
If u SMOKE, u are BAD girl;
If he SMOKES, he is GENTLEMEN.
! If u do WELL in your exams, he says it's LUCK;
If he does WELL, it's BRAINS.
If u HURT him, u are CRUEL;
If he HURTS u, u are too SENSITIVE!! & sooo hard to please!!!!!
guys might swear this isn't true!!...but gurls...go ahead n have a laugh! :)
AimusSage
12-13-2005, 11:25 AM
It's all true, you women are exactly like you describe. :)
RobinHood3000
12-13-2005, 05:11 PM
It's not true!! I swear!!!
...I hate being predictable. :mad:
AimusSage
12-13-2005, 05:32 PM
It's not true!! I swear!!!
...I hate being predictable. :mad:
Well, obviously she is wrong about us guys, no question there, but that post by smilingtearz really showed how women see themselfs, it's all projection you see. :D
Scheherazade
12-13-2005, 11:33 PM
I am getting a little uneasy with all this men-bashing. In my old age, I have realised that it takes two to tango and tango is a hard dance to master!
The problems with WOMEN:
If you TREAT her nicely, she says you are UP TO something;
If you don't, she says you are IGNORING her.
If you DRESS Nicely, she says you are trying to LURE other women;
If you don't, she tries to CHOOSE your clothes.
If you ARGUE with her, she says you are CRUEL to her;
If you keep QUIET, she says you are IGNORING her.
If you are SMARTER than her, she says you are BOSSY;
If she's SMARTER than you, she KNOWS BETTER.
If you don't LOVE her, she tries to MAKE you;
If you LOVE her, you are POSSIVE;
If you don't make love with her, she says you don't CARE;
If you do, you are DEMANDING.
If you tell her your PROBLEM, she says you are not MANLY and TOO SENSITIVE;
If you don't, she says that you are DISTANT.
If you SCOLD her, you are TOO CONTROLLING;
If she SCOLDS you, it is because she KNOWS BETTER.
If she BREAKS her PROMISE, she couldn't HELP IT;
If you BREAK yours, you cannot be TRUSTED.
If you SMOKE, you are BAD boy;
If she SMOKES, she NEEDS to.
If you do WELL in your exams, you are LUCKY;
If she does WELL, it's BRAINS.
If you HURT her, you are CRUEL;
If she HURTS you, she didn't MEAN it and she cannot UNDERSTAND men!
smilingtearz
12-14-2005, 09:38 AM
ummm...no comments!!
Anderton
12-14-2005, 10:13 AM
If she SMOKES, she NEEDS to.
Yes - she needs to sleep on the couch tonight. Ick.
Nightshade
12-14-2005, 12:18 PM
:lol: yay equal bashing rights! evryone bash everyone else yay!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/jayellen/smileys/hit.gifhttp://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/jayellen/smileys/hit.gif
somehopw I think everyone shouls stop before someone ges hurt but until then http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/jayellen/smileys/hit.gif
HAAAAAhaAAAAAAA :lol: :brow:
I'm telling you...read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus! All of this is adressed in the book.
rachel
12-15-2005, 09:39 PM
It all depends upon the person doing whatever don't you think. I always try to see what the intent was. A person could yell at you because they are afraid. A person could say a rude thing to you because long ago you said the same to him/her and the wound never healed. A person could say something to you because that is all they heard their father/mother say, a person they look up to.
I think if we just give one another the benefit of the doubt until you obviously cannot anylonger a relationship even between friends could last a long long time. And what is more precious than a true friend whether it be the person next door or a marriage mate? :nod:
smilingtearz
12-19-2005, 07:34 AM
P.S. THIS IS FOR ALL SMART WOMEN WHO NEED A LAUGH
AND TO ALL THE GUYS WHO CAN HANDLE IT!
1. The nice men are ugly.
2. The handsome men are not nice.
3. The handsome and nice men are gay.
4. The handsome, nice and heterosexual men are
married.
5. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice
men, have no money.
6. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice
men with money think we are only after their money.
7. The handsome men without money are after our
money.
8. The handsome men, who are not so nice and
somewhat heterosexual, don't think we are beautiful
enough.
9. The men who think we are beautiful, that are
heterosexual, somewhat nice and have money, are
cowards.
10. The men who are somewhat handsome, somewhat
nice and have some money and thank God are
heterosexual, are shy
and NEVER MAKE THE FIRST MOVE!!!!
11. The men who never make the first move,
automatically lose interest in us when we take the
initiative.
NOW, WHO THE HELL UNDERSTANDS MEN
Men are like fine wine.
They all start out like grapes, and it's our job to stomp on them and keep them in the dark until they mature into something you'd like to have dinner with." :D
RobinHood3000
12-19-2005, 08:45 AM
Owwww...good thing I'm ugly, and missed out on the vast majority of those insults.
The Unnamable
12-19-2005, 09:18 AM
DICTIONARY FOR WOMEN'S PERSONAL ADS:
30-ish.............................................39
Adventurous................. Slept with everyone
Athletic...................................... No tits
Average looking.................... Ugly
Beautiful........................... Pathological liar
Contagious Smile.................. Does a lot of pills
Emotionally Secure...................... On medication
Feminist.......................................... Fat
Free spirit.................................... Junkie
Friendship first.......................... Former slut
Fun.......................................... Annoying
New-Age............ Body hair in the wrong places
Old-fashioned............................. No BJs
Open-minded................................. Desperate
Outgoing...................... Loud and Embarrassing
Passionate............................... Sloppy drunk
Professional.................................... B itch
Voluptuous................................... Very Fat
Large frame................................. Hugely Fat
Wants Soul mate............................... Stalker
WOMEN'S ENGLISH:
1. Yes = No
2. No = Yes
3. Maybe = No
4. We need = I want.
5. I am sorry = you'll be sorry
6. We need to talk = You are in trouble
7. Sure, go ahead = You better not
8. Do what you want = You will pay for this later
9. I am not upset = Of course I am upset!
10. You're attentive tonight = Is sex all you ever think
about?
MEN'S ENGLISH:
1. I am hungry = I am hungry
2. I am sleepy = I am sleepy
3. I am tired = I am tired
4. Nice dress = Nice tits / arse!
5. I love you = Let's have sex now
6. I am bored = Do you want to have sex?
7. May I have this dance? = I'd like to have sex with you
8. Can I call you sometime? = I'd like to have sex with you
9. Do you want to go to a movie? = I'd like to have sex with you
10. Can I take you out to dinner? = I'd like to have sex with you
11. I don't think those shoes go with that outfit = I'm gay
Someone once said that women are to be loved, not understood.
starrwriter
12-19-2005, 01:28 PM
1. The nice men are ugly.
True.
2. The handsome men are not nice.
They don't have to be.
3. The handsome and nice men are gay.
Without exception.
4. The handsome, nice and heterosexual men are
married.
Three or four times. They never learn.
5. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice
men, have no money.
How mercenary.
6. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice
men with money think we are only after their money.
You are.
7. The handsome men without money are after our
money.
It's called getting paid for a service.
8. The handsome men, who are not so nice and
somewhat heterosexual, don't think we are beautiful
enough.
You're not.
9. The men who think we are beautiful, that are
heterosexual, somewhat nice and have money, are
cowards.
Huh?
10. The men who are somewhat handsome, somewhat
nice and have some money and thank God are
heterosexual, are shy and NEVER MAKE THE FIRST MOVE!!!!
Only wimps.
11. The men who never make the first move,
automatically lose interest in us when we take the
initiative.
No real man likes a pushy woman.
Scheherazade
12-19-2005, 01:35 PM
8. The handsome men, who are not so nice and
somewhat heterosexual, don't think we are beautiful
enough.
You're not.
Or maybe they don't think you are rich enough.
rachel
12-19-2005, 01:57 PM
yikes, a lot of suppressed anger and not niceness here.
I happen to know a young man Eric who is absolutely beautiful like a run way model, it gentle yet speaks his mind, is generous, kind, compassionate and considerate, is heterosexual and has a loud mouthed pushy girlfriend whom he adores. He is a genius and works with computers and cell phones and every girl I know wants to be in the same space as him. He gets up in the morning because he wants to and gets his girlfriend breakfast and kisses her goodbye before leaving for work. And he is a dear friend to me and my family, came because he wanted to to baby Hasia's birthday and loves her just as much as anyone else. Each one of us is unique and that is perhaps how we should look at one another. the result could be good, who knows
papayahed
12-19-2005, 02:20 PM
6. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice
men with money think we are only after their money.
You are.
Believe it or not, some of us have our own money.
starrwriter
12-19-2005, 02:23 PM
yikes, a lot of suppressed anger and not niceness here.
Or sarcastic humor, my favorite kind. Niceness is over-rated sugarcoating. It's more healthy to get nasty feelings out in the open so they don't fester inside.
Scheherazade
12-19-2005, 03:17 PM
I happen to know a young man Eric who is absolutely beautiful like a run way model, it gentle yet speaks his mind, is generous, kind, compassionate and considerate, is heterosexual and has a loud mouthed pushy girlfriend whom he adores. He is a genius and works with computers and cell phones and every girl I know wants to be in the same space as him. He gets up in the morning because he wants to and gets his girlfriend breakfast and kisses her goodbye before leaving for work. So when is he coming out?
:p
papayahed
12-19-2005, 03:38 PM
So when is he coming out?
:p
:lol: :lol: Now that's funny.
starrwriter
12-19-2005, 07:30 PM
So when is he coming out?
Ouch! See, Rachel, I'm not the only one at this forum with a vicious sense of humor.
Virgil
12-19-2005, 08:09 PM
P
Men are like fine wine.
They all start out like grapes, and it's our job to stomp on them and keep them in the dark until they mature into something you'd like to have dinner with." :D
Well, I've just read through this thread for the first time today, thinking at first that this was just a superficial chit chat, but wow. There's some real emotion in here, especially from Koa. You would think she was Italian. And Smilingtearz appears to have become the jokester of the forum. Well, I'll have to defend the men here. We are outnumbered you know. Smilingtearz may not know that there is a corresponding half to the quote I highlighted. Or if she does know, she obviously neglected it. It goes like this:
Women are like fine wine. They all start out fresh, fruity, and intoxicationg to the mind, and then they turn full-bodied with age until they all go sour and vinegary and give you a headache.
Some of the comments by the women here seem like they've already gone vinegary. We men aren't that bad, are we?
starrwriter
12-19-2005, 08:27 PM
We men aren't that bad, are we?
Don't let the women bamboozle you, Virgil. They can't live without us. (At least they can't have children without us.)
RobinHood3000
12-19-2005, 10:07 PM
Beware the wiles of feminist science, lads. We're gradually being phased out.
starrwriter
12-20-2005, 01:59 AM
Beware the wiles of feminist science, lads. We're gradually being phased out.
Feminist science? Eek! :eek2: They'll reverse the fable and turn us men into frogs!
emily655321
12-20-2005, 08:37 AM
Or sarcastic humor, my favorite kind. Niceness is over-rated sugarcoating. It's more healthy to get nasty feelings out in the open so they don't fester inside.
I've never found this to be true. For every person like you, who feels that it's funny when they shout their opinion in people's faces till all the potential humor is long gone, there are other people who have to tactfully hold their tongue to keep the general peace. You don't really like it when others voice their opinion, just when they allow you to voice yours... repeatedly. When people like Smilingtearz express "sarcastic humor," you take them seriously and call them overly sensitive. Which is probably more a projection of your own motives.
Smilingtearz' list of descriptions seems to describe men like you—to use a cliche, "Chauvinists"— but, thank god, there are men in the world who do not meet that description at all. Believe me, there are reasonable, intelligent, sweet men in the world, who are secure in their masculinity without needing to "prove" it, but they tend not to like being associated with the type of men who, for example, believe that when a woman says "no" she means "yes" (thanks to the Unnamable for that prime example), and so they tend to quietly avoid the company of people who talk in gendered stereotypes. Such stereotypes—that women are all scatter-brained nags, and that men have no emotions and are just after sex—tend to be perpetuated by people who generally only attract that sort of person, and so they think the whole world is made of the same kind of people. This is ridiculously narrow-minded; the type of person with whom you find yourself surrounded is often a reflection of the type of person you are. If you want to attract kind men, or intelligent women, perhaps you ought to first examine what it is about your personality that only attracts the type of people you dislike.
It's tough to escape stereotyping, and it's unfortunate when the only qualifying factor is your gender. There are two genders in the world, and a whole lot more than two types of people. This is all the evidence one should need that not all men/women are alike.
starrwriter
12-20-2005, 01:11 PM
For every person like you, who feels that it's funny when they shout their opinion in people's faces till all the potential humor is long gone, there are other people who have to tactfully hold their tongue to keep the general peace.
You're not following your own advice by trying to pick a fight with me.
You don't really like it when others voice their opinion, just when they allow you to voice yours... repeatedly. When people like Smilingtearz express "sarcastic humor," you take them seriously and call them overly sensitive. Which is probably more a projection of your own motives.
You're really dense if you can't tell the difference between humorous teasing and serious criticism. My only motive is to have a little fun, which you could see if you read my posts with an open mind instead of referring to a PC handbook.
If you want to attract kind men, or intelligent women, perhaps you ought to first examine what it is about your personality that only attracts the type of people you dislike.
You've already done that for me, even though you know next to nothing about me or my life. You equated me with Unnamable and implied that both of us are misogynists with rapist mentalities. You should look inside your own mind to find out where all this anger is coming from.
It's tough to escape stereotyping ...
Obviously, it is for you. I don't stereotype people myself.
papayahed
12-20-2005, 01:36 PM
Feminist science? Eek! :eek2: They'll reverse the fable and turn us men into frogs!
Well, not until we build an automatic bug killer, jar opener, and top of the shelf getter. So, you've got a few months...
Nightshade
12-20-2005, 01:54 PM
OI!!! smile people! Including you starr.:D
Wow, well recently I learnt there is more truth in steryotype sthan I thought.
Rachel there you have it That nice guy is already taken whch just backs up Eva's list!
but otherwise ((g)).
Last year we had a substiitue teacher for Psychology for a couple of mnths and she was really a clinicla hypontist and somthing to do with university anyway one day she started telling us about this book she had read when she was doing her thesis on the psychology of sperm of all odd things. I think it was called sperm wars.
there is a bit of random info to add to the pot :nod:
Scheherazade
12-20-2005, 02:52 PM
Feminist science? Eek! :eek2: They'll reverse the fable and turn us men into frogs!That surely cannot be a big challenge; how many steps are you down on the evolution ladder? One? Two?
The Unnamable
12-20-2005, 03:02 PM
(thanks to the Unnamable for that prime example)
And there was me thinking that I was simply joining in with the spirit of smilingtearz’s rather amusing diatribe against men. I didn’t take it seriously – nor was I offended by it. Perhaps I should have been. A po-faced, politically correct objection would have been more welcome it seems – as an adequate display of my sensitivity credentials. Obviously, I am nothing more than a rapist.
Mind you, I now have further evidence that Literature is being appropriated by the PC hordes who are terrified of anything that suggests the problems of the world can’t be solved by every one sharing a nice glass of chardonnay together.
As for the other ‘objectionable’ reference I made – why is it that so many of you daren’t object to the explicitness of, say, Ulysses or much of Shakespeare? Look at the following interchange between Hamlet and Ophelia:
HAMLET
Do you think I meant country matters?
OPHELIA
I think nothing, my lord.
HAMLET
That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.
OPHELIA
What is, my lord?
HAMLET
Nothing.
He puns on ‘country’ and then uses ‘nothing’ to mean ‘no thing’ i.e. no penis. This is disgusting and should be banned. Hamlet is sexually abusing the poor girl here and Literature is all about telling us what a lovely place the world is.
PS Do you have a cuddly teddy-bear called Osric?
rachel
12-20-2005, 03:04 PM
hahahah
my goodness how did people become suddenly experts in the hearts of all others?
is it the 'if it looks like a duck think?"
Here in Vernon gay pride is so accepted it is passe and boring for the newer generations. no body cares. Eric is just one of several guys who are absolutely beautiful in appearance and rather like and enjoy girls, ladies who are outspoken, someone they can love but don't have to babysit or be the life supply of oxygen for.
I noticed they all have very cosmopolitan parents from Europe who have been married a very long time and who are equally outspoken and articulate. It is just their family backgrounds I suppose. Not every guy is hungering after a beautiful girl who has neither the brains nor humankindness to match. A lot of gorgeous girls here are alone and like it or are with very average guys that they too have been with for years and who they think are their total soul mates.
Now now Papayahed don't get tainted by this'very ignoble adult verbal sewage. On the other hand at least Scher is a match for our poor little Starr who now is not merely slightly senile and cranky but according to Basil has a serious medical condition that needs quick attending to before he passes it about to innocent untainted people.
Well at least the good side of this is the old bear will be leaving you alone for a while it seems.
Be careful Starr, Scher may have a Mr. or a man in her life that sees you as a vile predator who needs a good taking down a peg or two. There are gentlemen in this life who do not fancy their beloveds being spoken to in such a crude manner and on the internet within 'hearing of children and youth who come on here to have clean fellowship and learn something. Have you thought about seeing a counsellor that specializes in therapy for the seriously sexually addicted?
RobinHood3000
12-20-2005, 03:10 PM
Actually, humans in general are not much farther from the banana than the chimpanzee eating it, in the great scheme of things. Just thought that might be interesting...
Nightshade
12-20-2005, 03:19 PM
my brain is getting seriously confuzzled :confused: by all this arguing
Nightshade
12-20-2005, 03:22 PM
Actually, humans in general are not much farther from the banana than the chimpanzee eating it, in the great scheme of things. Just thought that might be interesting...
Isnt it we share more genes with somthing really odd like potatoes than chimanzees?
just thought Id add that :D
starrwriter
12-20-2005, 03:43 PM
Be careful Starr, Scher may have a Mr. or a man in her life that sees you as a vile predator who needs a good taking down a peg or two. There are gentlemen in this life who do not fancy their beloveds being spoken to in such a crude manner ...
Scher and I were only fencing and she gives and good as she gets. Stop trying to protect her with boogeyman threats. She doesn't need it.
Nightshade
12-20-2005, 03:48 PM
we could start a mini war I think............
RobinHood3000
12-20-2005, 03:53 PM
~raises hand~ Ooh!! I'm on Scheherazade's side!
Nightshade
12-20-2005, 03:56 PM
hey the point was to whats the word allay? put off the war not make it worsehttp://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/jayellen/smileys/hit.gif
Logos
12-20-2005, 05:01 PM
Things get so much more dramatic around the holidays :lol:
Basil
12-20-2005, 06:41 PM
Scher and I were only fencing and she gives as good as she gets.
Actually, some of us keeping score at home think Scher's giving BETTER than she's getting.
Virgil
12-20-2005, 08:09 PM
Just my two cents:
This was relatively fun when it was a tug and pull thread of gender jokes. But somehow it became personal against Star, and I think that was unfair. In my reading of the threads, Star didn't personally attack anyone, a few however attacked him. Star's humor is sarcasm. He was only playing along. Ad hominum slights against him were wrong. And he was actually losing his give and take with Scher.
smilingtearz
12-20-2005, 10:01 PM
OMG!...this thread wasn't supposed to turn into a might-turn-world-war thread....:goof:
like virgil said...they're mere jokes...and i like starr's comments....he's got wits!
(DUMB of course like all MEN are :D)...but again...like starr said...women can't do much without men around can they?? :D
Scheherazade
12-20-2005, 10:06 PM
Just my two cents:
This was relatively fun when it was a tug and pull thread of gender jokes. But somehow it became personal against Star, and I think that was unfair. In my reading of the threads, Star didn't personally attack anyone, a few however attacked him. Star's humor is sarcasm. He was only playing along. Ad hominum slights against him were wrong. And he was actually losing his give and take with Scher.Virgil,
Thank you for your post. I agree with you that this thread started as a joke and most of us contributed in that way. I would like to think that things said have been in light hearted banter, with no intention of offending anyone. Needless to say, our senses of humour vary and those who do not agree with this thread, maybe should try to ignore this thread altogether (unless you are targetted personally; then, by all means, stand up for yourselves and express your worries and/or objections).
rachel
12-20-2005, 10:38 PM
oh Night,
who doesn't love you and want to take you home with them.
what a girl.
starrwriter
12-20-2005, 10:42 PM
Virgil, Thank you for your post. I agree with you that this thread started as a joke and most of us contributed in that way. I would like to think that things said have been in light hearted banter, with no intention of offending anyone. Needless to say, our senses of humour vary and those who do not agree with this thread, maybe should try to ignore this thread altogether (unless you are targetted personally; then, by all means, stand up for yourselves and express your worries and/or objections).
Relax, people. I'm not offended by anything written about me in this forum. I'm not thin-skinned. Some people just don't like my brand of humor or my opinions and I can live with that. If we agreed with each other all the time, this would be a very boring forum.
RobinHood3000
12-20-2005, 10:55 PM
I agree. The conflict's part of the fun; insult humor is an art form in itself, so long as it doesn't get out of hand.
Pensive
12-21-2005, 01:10 AM
I agree with starrwriter there that if we all agree on one opinion all the time, it will seem boring and annoying. We gather on the forum to discuss different things and to share our opinions. Everyone has different opinions.
Nightshade
12-21-2005, 06:19 AM
Well I agree with evrybody:D;: :nod: mostly because today Im feeling too lazy to disagagreee but I think men are a nesseiray thing becasue otherwise what would women have to complain about?
Rachel I am nice arent I? ;)
RobinHood3000
12-21-2005, 09:06 AM
Well I agree with evrybody:D;: :nod: mostly because today Im feeling too lazy to disagagreee but I think men are a nesseiray thing becasue otherwise what would women have to complain about?
Yeeesh. Nice to know we're appreciated :rolleyes:
smilingtearz
12-21-2005, 09:11 AM
yeah Robin women usually try to encourage and cheer up the "opposite -sex"... even if they end up lying ...much against their wishes :D
rachel
12-21-2005, 01:38 PM
Starr,
I am not trying to protect Scher. I just grieve that such smuttiness has to be the order of the day when there are better ways of expressing oneself, especially on a site that has so many very young teens on it who already hear that sort of junk daily and could use a break. but that is only my opinion.
And unless Scher has pm'd you about her life, how is it you say she doesn't need defending. What do you know of her life? And I still stand by what I said , humour or not i cannot imagine any special person in someone's life not wanting to hand out a bunch of fives to some stranger speaking in such a personal sexual way to his/her loved one. again just my opinion, doesn't change my regard for you, it is just a concern is all. i will say no more.(yes yes I can hear all the applause)
emily655321
12-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Hmm... I think the point of my post a while back was mistaken. I'm not against sarcastic humor, and I didn't mistake the jokes on this thread for sincerity, I'm just so, so, so sick and tired of "men are like this/women are like this" humor. No offense (really!), but I think it reflects poorly on the joke-teller's intelligence. They're boring and clichéd to the extent of causing pain, in me. What I hate is that the jokes are predicated on stereotypes that I think are far too prevalent, and which too many people still believe to be true. Shocking sexist humor, however, can be funny. Observe:
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing you haven't already told her twice.
Why shouldn't women drive?
There isn't a highway between the kitchen and the bedroom.
Why did the woman cross the road?
Not the point. What's she doing out of the kitchen?
How do you turn a dishwasher into a snow-plow?
Hand the ***** a shovel.
How many women does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
None. Let her cook in the dark.
Funny, because they're socially outdated. And just shockingly cruel, which is always just a little bit funny. But, to me, the myths that women want a rich man who will buy her lots of things, and that when a man looks at you while you're talking he's just waiting for you to shut up so he can **** you... laughing at them is a step in the right direction, but they're still told with an attitude of "it's funny 'cause it's true," and I generally try to avoid social circles wherein that type of thinking is common. So when I come to a Literature Forum, a kind of intellectual oasis amidst ... well, the rest of the world, ... and in the middle of that I find more low-brow sex jokes, it makes me kinda sorta want to pluck my eyes from their sockets and pour bleach into them until it eats my brain.
You know, to clarify things.
The Unnamable
12-21-2005, 05:40 PM
The old ones are the best.
PICKERING: Excuse the straight question, Higgins. Are you a man of good character where women are concerned?
HIGGINS: (moodily) Have you ever met a man of good character where women are concerned?
GB Shaw Pygmalion
RobinHood3000
12-21-2005, 07:27 PM
The old ones are the best.
PICKERING: Excuse the straight question, Higgins. Are you a man of good character where women are concerned?
HIGGINS: (moodily) Have you ever met a man of good character where women are concerned?
GB Shaw Pygmalion
Now THERE'S something we can agree upon. Made even funnier with Rex Harrison's delivery.
Virgil
12-21-2005, 08:14 PM
With all due respect to GB Shaw, there are men of good character.
smilingtearz
12-22-2005, 05:39 AM
i agree............:D
The Unnamable
12-22-2005, 06:05 AM
With all due respect to GB Shaw, there are men of good character.
With all due respect to you, he didn’t say there weren’t – only where women are concerned.
Both Shaw’s comment and my own posting of it were meant to be taken humorously. Obviously some men are of good character - I’m one of them.
Are you developing into my own personal stalker, trawling the posts to find one over which you can disagree with me? I'm very flattered. Be careful, though, it does lead you to patronise writers like Shaw. I wonder if anyone else realises that Shaw is wrong and you are right.
Virgil
12-22-2005, 02:31 PM
With all due respect to you, he didn’t say there weren’t – only where women are concerned.
Both Shaw’s comment and my own posting of it were meant to be taken humorously. Obviously some men are of good character - I’m one of them.
Are you developing into my own personal stalker, trawling the posts to find one over which you can disagree with me? I'm very flattered. Be careful, though, it does lead you to patronise writers like Shaw. I wonder if anyone else realises that Shaw is wrong and you are right.
Goodness, no, I'm not stalking you. But I do notice your replies, and your replies generally inteest me. I'm sure Shaw was saying it with tongue-in-cheek.
Nightshade
12-22-2005, 02:37 PM
Apolgising beforehand (sorry virgil I cant resist!!)
generally inteest me
Im not the only one who misspells ;) :lol:
sorry :blush: :goof:
RobinHood3000
12-22-2005, 02:54 PM
If he had two tongues, Shaw probably would have had both in his cheek. I wonder if there really are Professor Higgins ("Higginses?") there are in this world...people so cynical and so chauvinistic that they are practically doomed to bachelorhood for eternity.
~looks at starrwriter~
...never mind.
starrwriter
12-22-2005, 03:18 PM
If he had two tongues, Shaw probably would have had both in his cheek. I wonder if there really are Professor Higgins ("Higginses?") there are in this world...people so cynical and so chauvinistic that they are practically doomed to bachelorhood for eternity.
~looks at starrwriter~
Don't look at me. I was married and raised two children before you were a gleam in your daddy's eyes. Later I chose bachelorhood because it was more fun. No doom and gloom involved.
The Unnamable
12-22-2005, 03:33 PM
Goodness, no, I'm not stalking you. But I do notice your replies, and your replies generally inteest me.
We are going to have to get this humour thing sorted. Never take me seriously is usually a good policy.
What do mean 'generally' interest you? I find them fascinating all the time (guess where my tongue is).
RobinHood3000
12-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Where's your tongue? Hmm...between your teeth? :p
Well?? Did I get it right? What did I win??
Don't worry, nobody takes anybody seriously around here. Unless they're taking them seriously.
starrwriter
12-22-2005, 03:56 PM
Don't worry, nobody takes anybody seriously around here.
I wish. Would you please remove your sword blade from my gizzard?
The Unnamable
12-22-2005, 04:05 PM
Well?? Did I get it right? What did I win??
In my cheek (firmly) so no, you haven't won. As for the prize, it would have depended. For any gorgeous lady between the ages of 30 and 50, it would have been a night out with me. For anyone else, who cares?
RobinHood3000
12-22-2005, 04:25 PM
I wish. Would you please remove your sword blade from my gizzard?
Swords? Bah! I prefer bows. :goof:http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb043.gif
Nightshade
12-22-2005, 04:49 PM
Swords? Bah! I prefer bows. :goof:http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb043.gif
has because your too cowardly to come in range of a sword ;)
RobinHood3000
12-22-2005, 10:33 PM
I prefer to think of it as too smart. Besides, I can use a sword if I need too. I taught Errol Flynn everything he knows! :p
Nightshade
12-23-2005, 10:30 AM
whoy who?
((g))
samercury
12-23-2005, 12:43 PM
Besides, I can use a sword if I need too. I taught Errol Flynn everything he knows! :p
:eek2:sure you can ;)
really? :goof:...that's not what he said :eek: ;)
smilingtearz
12-24-2005, 07:59 AM
:lol:....umm...wait what exactly was the name of the thread?
samercury
12-25-2005, 09:50 PM
:lol:....umm...wait what exactly was the name of the thread?
Unpredictable men!....Why do you ask? ;)
smilingtearz
12-26-2005, 03:32 AM
@ sam....ur question above mine has got a "really?" and a "sure.." somewhere in it ...
just to remind you that we're dealing here with unpredictability...:D
and with some guys/men in this thread ...who ARE trying to PROVE that they are men....who know A LOT..:D
I prefer to think of it as too smart. Besides, I can use a sword if I need too. I taught Errol Flynn everything he knows!
starrwriter
12-26-2005, 02:04 PM
...just to remind you that we're dealing here with unpredictability...and with some guys/men in this thread ...who ARE trying to PROVE that they are men....who know A LOT...
For the last time, men are as predictable as clocks. It's you women who are unpredictable/flighty/emotional time bombs (think PMS.)
We men have nothing to prove and we do know a lot about women. It comes from bitter experience.
RobinHood3000
12-26-2005, 02:13 PM
More bitter for some than for others, it seems.
Scheherazade
12-26-2005, 02:22 PM
More bitter for some than for others, it seems.And they say life is not fair!
:p
starrwriter
12-26-2005, 02:31 PM
More bitter for some than for others, it seems.
You're still young. Wait until you have to peel the rind off of a few relationships.
RobinHood3000
12-26-2005, 02:44 PM
Why? You grab a few too many lemons?
starrwriter
12-26-2005, 03:22 PM
Why? You grab a few too many lemons?
No, the lemons grabbed me. And I could never say no to a gorgeous lemon.
RobinHood3000
12-26-2005, 03:54 PM
Ah--I guess you learned the hard way that the really good-looking ones can be the most sour.
starrwriter
12-26-2005, 04:29 PM
Ah--I guess you learned the hard way that the really good-looking ones can be the most sour.
In the 1960s there was a pop tune that went:
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
Unfortunately, most men are prone to female beauty. Who wants an uggo for a mate?
All good-looking women are high maintenance (meaning lots of trouble.) If they're not attractive, the man ceases to care about any kind of maintenance.
samercury
12-26-2005, 04:36 PM
For the last time, men are as predictable as clocks. It's you women who are unpredictable/flighty/emotional time bombs (think PMS.)
We men have nothing to prove and we do know a lot about women. It comes from bitter experience.
as predictable as a half-broken one
:goof: I'm sure you do....
one person's bitter experience is another's happy memory
RobinHood3000
12-26-2005, 04:46 PM
"...from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you!"
Heard the song before--I rather like it, though I don't necessarily agree with it. But then, I think half the purpose of that song was to knock out some of the competition for the lookers.
starrwriter
12-26-2005, 04:51 PM
one person's bitter experience is another's happy memory
You got that right:
A man's bitter experience=his woman's happy memory.
samercury
12-26-2005, 10:49 PM
Starr, please stop turning my words around....;)
starrwriter
12-26-2005, 11:02 PM
Starr, please stop turning my words around....;)
I turns them the way I sees them.
samercury
12-26-2005, 11:09 PM
I turns them the way I sees them.
:lol:....I don't like it when you make sense....
smilingtearz
12-27-2005, 07:28 AM
as predictable as a half-broken one
ahan!...or the ones with really low batteries...
I've seen this in novels, pretty women are always shown "cuckolding" their husbands and its easy for them to have affairs outside marriage...and the not-so-pretty women, want to have "other" men...so they go "after" them....
umm...this way or that...the woman has to be bad...right?
Aurora Ariel
12-27-2005, 07:35 AM
*Personally, I detest too much predictability.I prefer uniqueness and free-spiritedness.Though I don't believe in the claims of astrology myself, I actually have a nice overhanging crystal which I received from a friend as a present.Aquarius- Individual, Unpredictable, and Joyful.Suits me quite well- purely coincidental.
*starr and co....I don't see why it is so bad to want to remain friends?No offence...but I would never take relationship advice from someone who is not friends or no longer on speaking terms with their ex's.I'm very generous and affectionate in friendship, and guys and girls can definitely have an innocent relationship.I truly like to remain as sweet as a lovely apple blossom.I'm always friendly with everyone I've come across.Though I have seen many nasty breakups around me.Both girls and guys can get nasty, and highly irrational in a heated argument, but it's not my style and I tend to avoid the tulmult of hell.Friendship is far more precious.I'm naturally kind and charming in person, and certainly no ----(edits out anyway).
*Also, Robin, I think you need to get out more.Not all really gorgeous girls are sour.I hope you don't become a complete cynic like some older guys.I think it's a common misconception, especially if guys have had negative experiences in the past.There are some girls who are bright, beautiful, and incredibly nice.Trust me.
*And starr and co...who said the pretty women even wants to be your wife?Not every female or male wishes to be a wife or husband.I'm never going to get married-seriously.I think one can live independently and still be deeply in love.I'm never going to live with anyone.By choice.
RobinHood3000
12-27-2005, 08:23 AM
Have no fear, Aurora--I'm not that cynical, just trying to follow the lemon analogy. I realize that there are girls who are bright, beautiful, and incredibly nice; I'm in a relationship with one now, and I couldn't be happier. And I do agree with you, though I should probably have some more dating experience before my opinion on the matter has any weight, that most people should be mature enough to remain friends with their exes or, if their exes are terrible people (which has to happen at least some of the time to somebody), to know enough to sever ties with them.
papayahed
12-27-2005, 11:04 AM
For the last time, men are as predictable as clocks.
the lobotomized ones...
We men have nothing to prove and we do know a lot about women. It comes from bitter experience
Starr you must be looking for a fight, I didn't expect such grandiose statements from you.
Nightshade
12-27-2005, 01:14 PM
There is a book selling called everything men know about women (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/155207045X/qid=1135703420/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/002-6220729-5892841?n=283155) and well ehem read the second reiview or better yet press the look inside button :D
Not that Im saying I agree ethically with the mass production of this book but well the idea is amusing if nothing else.
((g))
starrwriter
12-27-2005, 02:32 PM
Starr you must be looking for a fight, I didn't expect such grandiose statements from you.
The truth is never grandiose. And isn't it just like a woman to assume a man is looking for a fight because he dares to utter the truth he learned from personal experience?
starrwriter
12-27-2005, 02:46 PM
*Personally, I detest too much predictability.I prefer uniqueness and free-spiritedness.Though I don't believe in the claims of astrology myself, I actually have a nice overhanging crystal which I received from a friend as a present.
At last a woman who appreciates free spirit in a man. But lose the crystal. They give me the creeps.
*starr and co....I don't see why it is so bad to want to remain friends? No offence...but I would never take relationship advice from someone who is not friends or no longer on speaking terms with their ex's.
My ex-wife and I are not even on stabbing terms. I lost track of her years ago on purpose and for all I know she's dead (although there may be wish fulfillment involved in that possibility.)
*And starr and co...who said the pretty women even wants to be your wife?
When I was 19, I listened to the experience of an old Florida cracker and it turned out to be prophetic of my own future life. He said: "Women! First, they want the matrimony. Then they up and leave and want the alimony. In the end they git all the mony."
I'm never going to get married-seriously. I think one can live independently and still be deeply in love.I'm never going to live with anyone. By choice.
The best-laid plans of mice and (wo)men oft-times lead astray. How old are you?
Virgil
12-27-2005, 04:32 PM
*starr and co....I don't see why it is so bad to want to remain friends?No offence...but I would never take relationship advice from someone who is not friends or no longer on speaking terms with their ex's.
I hate to disagree with you Aurora, but frankly that's a bit naive. There are reasons you broke up. There is a history between the two, positive and negative. Because you broke up, you don't want to relive the positive, at least not in front of the other. And the negative continues to divide. Once you cross the threshold into love, mere friendship is no longer possible. There may be some, usually because there are mutual children involved. Perhaps you are forced into overlapping situations. I guess it depends on what you define as friendship, but consciously seeking to do things together is near impossible.
RobinHood3000
12-27-2005, 05:44 PM
Eh--personally, I agree with Aurora. My most recent ex was both vindictive and domineering when we were together, but we get along swimmingly as friends, largely because she has no qualms about telling me where my character could use improving.
Virgil
12-28-2005, 12:08 AM
but we get along swimmingly as friends, largely because she has no qualms about telling me where my character could use improving.
I take it you need lots of improving. Quite nice of you to let her keep picking on you like that. How come you don't let us pick on you?
RobinHood3000
12-28-2005, 09:05 AM
Who sez I don't? The difference is that, from you all, I will defend myself vehemently unless your darts are particularly well-aimed.
smilingtearz
12-28-2005, 09:25 AM
You mean to say the darts are rarely well aimed ..huh?
RobinHood3000
12-28-2005, 09:30 AM
"Darts," as in the jabs intended to provoke improvements in character. My ex-girlfriend's aim is particularly exacting, which is why I value her judgment so.
smilingtearz
12-28-2005, 09:42 AM
wonder how many girls are falling in love with you ;) :lol:
value a girl's judgements...ahan!
Virgil
12-28-2005, 09:46 AM
"Darts," as in the jabs intended to provoke improvements in character. My ex-girlfriend's aim is particularly exacting, which is why I value her judgment so.
Sounds like you are still in love, and she shouldn't be an ex.
RobinHood3000
12-28-2005, 11:07 AM
Sorry, Virgil--she's firmly in the "ex-girlfriend" category. She's still more than capable of being vindictive and dominating (meaning that we're fairly incompatible as a couple), and she's much happier in her current relationship than in the past one, as am I.
smilingtearz
12-28-2005, 12:00 PM
the guys are getting emotional....awww! :p
Kaltrina
12-29-2005, 06:11 AM
I hate to disagree with you Aurora, but frankly that's a bit naive. There are reasons you broke up. There is a history between the two, positive and negative. Because you broke up, you don't want to relive the positive, at least not in front of the other. And the negative continues to divide. Once you cross the threshold into love, mere friendship is no longer possible. There may be some, usually because there are mutual children involved. Perhaps you are forced into overlapping situations. I guess it depends on what you define as friendship, but consciously seeking to do things together is near impossible.
and I have to agree with Virgil... I wouldn't like to be friends with someone I had a history behind... I don't think there is friendship left between two people who were in love or just a couple, but especially between people who were deeply in love... why stay friends? later on it always complicates things in life, whenever two people start dating and become a couple, they think about something more than friendship than I personally think that friendship is gone, there is no more place for it... couples can be friends, great friends but only when they are in a relationship, once they break up the friendship is ruined... but anyways that is only my opinion... :D
RobinHood3000
12-29-2005, 08:08 AM
Eh, I disagree. My girlfriend and I have agreed to split for one reason, and only one reason: utter incompatibility. Never shall we part because either of us thought we found someone better, or because we no longer "feel like" being in a relationship. Part of that agreement was to be mature enough to remain friends, even is something should go awry.
Of course, the fact that it's a purely emotional relationship without physical interaction may aid in the execution of that pact.
Virgil
12-29-2005, 09:19 AM
Eh, I disagree. My girlfriend and I have agreed to split for one reason, and only one reason: utter incompatibility. Never shall we part because either of us thought we found someone better, or because we no longer "feel like" being in a relationship. Part of that agreement was to be mature enough to remain friends, even is something should go awry.
Of course, the fact that it's a purely emotional relationship without physical interaction may aid in the execution of that pact.
It all seems to rational for an affair of the heart, at least to me. But your relationship with her is commendable.
RobinHood3000
12-29-2005, 09:23 AM
Well, it was said in a more emotional context than that in which it was typed above, and thanks :banana:.
baddad
12-29-2005, 09:23 AM
....'execution'......'pact'.....mmmm....'awry'.... .lovely words associated with any relationship.....
Seriously folks, there is absolutely no reason why intimacy MUST ruin a friendship. Relationships end. Its no big deal. I've ended them myself, and I've had them ended for me. Yet I remain friends with everyone I have ever dated, married, or cohabitated with......and yes, there are quite a few such friends. I have grieved for the appropriate length of time,been angry, frustrated, lost. But always return to friendship in the end. Relationships are a state of mind. One need not carry animosity around as an emotional disease just because of the changes that life brings. I prefer to keep my friends for a lifetime. Lovers should be no different.....IMHO........
Virgil
12-29-2005, 09:34 AM
I'm curious as to what you mean remain freinds. If I were to by coincidence run into an old girl friend, I would say hi, how are you, and other casual small talk. That's having manners, like anyone with else of aquaintence. But I wouldn't invite them to a personal party nor would I go if I were invited to one of theirs. I can't imagine going on an event, say something like double dating, my wife and I, her and her husband. It's not even just the emotions involved, it's the awkwardness of the situation. [excuse my spelling] There are other people now involved. My wife would react.
rachel
12-29-2005, 04:21 PM
poor Starr, I am sorry you were so ill treated. Yet the kindness of your heart, yes I mean that, don't anyone faint tells me you say more meaness than you truly feel because you have been really let down and disallusioned. please don't give up and settle for bitterness.
Aurora you are truly beautiful I have been alone for a long while now since the death of my daughter's father. Guys are always hitting on me(shows how desperate they are) and i prefer to be alone. perhaps some day ....but I am not alone, nor lonely and have very dear female and male friends.
starrwriter
12-29-2005, 05:01 PM
poor Starr, I am sorry you were so ill treated.
I wasn't treated any worse than the majority of my male friends in their relationships. That's the sad part.
Yet the kindness of your heart, yes I mean that, don't anyone faint tells me you say more meaness than you truly feel because you have been really let down and disallusioned. please don't give up and settle for bitterness.
Rachel, it's not "meanness" to report the painful lessons of one's experience. It's honesty and facing the facts.
As I indicated above, I don't feel like God is raining on my personal parade. After my divorce, I remained a bachelor because I saw the folly of marriage when most men and women don't have a clue about each other. I'm an only child and I've always been a loner. Being single (and free) suits me just fine.
rachel
12-29-2005, 05:33 PM
An only child,
that is very interesting. I wonder if oldest children also feel the need to be alone a lot. Although I wasn't really a member of the family I grew up in I was the first by a couple of years and I don't know if I have siblings so perhaps I am an only child as well. I also wonder if only's if they escape being selfish self absorbed beings are real people watchers. It seems true perhaps.
starrwriter
12-29-2005, 06:17 PM
An only child, that is very interesting. I wonder if oldest children also feel the need to be alone a lot. Although I wasn't really a member of the family I grew up in I was the first by a couple of years and I don't know if I have siblings so perhaps I am an only child as well. I also wonder if only's if they escape being selfish self absorbed beings are real people watchers. It seems true perhaps.
Who said I wasn't selfish or self-absorbed? I'm people, too, and I definitely bear watching.
Besides, all writers spy on themselves. It's a form of narcissism -- depraved possibly, but necessary.
RobinHood3000
12-29-2005, 06:58 PM
Eh, I say let him be bitter. That's his schtick--he lacks a personality without bitterness.
emily655321
12-29-2005, 07:04 PM
I'd like to see a study done of how well only children fare in romance as opposed to those who grew up with siblings? Although, there are plenty of variables, such as how much time an only child spends with peers and cousins. But learning communication and conflict-resolution skills at an early age, such as one with brothers or sisters must, seems like it would contribute to how well one lives with others as an adult. Just a thought.
rachel
12-29-2005, 09:38 PM
I absolutely agree. I believe that only children live in a very unrealistic unreal world. they don't have to compete for attention or material things as a rule. They don't have to share the bathroom or be bothered by a sibling that is trying to torment them.They are around adults, their caregivers for the most part. All my friends that are only's are very sensitive, easily wounded and tend to hide away and have difficulty knowing when someone is conning t hem. But that is just a few of the millions. The rest might be quite different.
hi Em, hope your Christmas with kitties and fam was great.
starrwriter
12-29-2005, 10:51 PM
Eh, I say let him be bitter. That's his schtick--he lacks a personality without bitterness.
I beg your pardon. I have a multi-faceted personality that includes hate, revenge, cynicism, acid wit and curmudgeonry. Bitterness plays a minor role, like the hops in beer.
Virgil
12-29-2005, 11:38 PM
I have seen one study that showed that the oldest child tends to have more leadership skills and tends get placed in charge of people. Of course I'm always skeptical of these studies. It does seem logical, though.
samercury
12-29-2005, 11:42 PM
...the in charge of people part is right (sort of)....leadership skills??? :p
Virgil
12-29-2005, 11:44 PM
...the in charge of people part is right (sort of)....leadership skills??? :p
Leadership means you get put in charge of people. Are you the oldest, Same?
samercury
12-29-2005, 11:46 PM
Leadership means you get put in charge of people. Are you the oldest, Same?
It's not the same thing at all.....
...yes I am :rolleyes:
baddad
12-29-2005, 11:48 PM
Paraphrased.....[QUOTE=Virgil]I'm curious as to what you mean remain freinds. If I were to by coincidence run into an old girl friend, I would say hi, how are you, and other casual small talk......But I wouldn't invite them to a personal party nor would I go if I were invited to one of theirs.....QUOTE]
Maturity and friendship go hand in hand. I wouldn't have a party WITHOUT inviting ex's and spouses and kids so on. Time heals many wounds, and memories are meant to fade. These are 2 kindness' from the gods. New memories, good memories, can be be had with a few kind words and an extended hand after an appropriate time span. LIfe is short, Friendship tough to come by......
Yes, it may be difficult or awkward at the first initial contact, but you will find that whoever "They" are, they are usually basically nice people......no harm no foul......kiss and makeup and remain friends.......it is truly time well spent..................
Virgil
12-29-2005, 11:49 PM
Oh, then I'm sure you're going to be a great leader some day. First woman President. What do you think?
samercury
12-29-2005, 11:57 PM
@Virgil- :goof:....sure, if you say so
Nightshade
12-30-2005, 03:43 AM
...the in charge of people part is right (sort of)....leadership skills??? :p
I agree only I tend not to be put in charge as much as take over whatever is going on and do it all myself but that might be because I dont like to waste time :nod:
papayahed
12-30-2005, 12:12 PM
I absolutely agree. I believe that only children live in a very unrealistic unreal world. they don't have to compete for attention or material things as a rule. They don't have to share the bathroom or be bothered by a sibling that is trying to torment them.They are around adults, their caregivers for the most part. All my friends that are only's are very sensitive, easily wounded and tend to hide away and have difficulty knowing when someone is conning t hem. But that is just a few of the millions. The rest might be quite different.
Wow, I have a completely different view. I'm an only and I'm none of those things mentioned. From my perspective I think I grew up faster, learning more of the "real" world at an earlier age then most. You're right about the not having to share and not competing for attention, but there's also that bit about being alone a good deal of the time.
rachel
12-30-2005, 12:47 PM
Very wise words Baddad. while there is life there is hope for new memories. unless the person of course is violent and will not change. I have made that unfortunate mistake and am very grateful to have come away alive, me and my family.
As for you being multifaceted that doesn't mean the layers and such are normal.Unless you had a friend or mentor to really work out situations and emotions and grow in mind and thought in a healthy way I still feel that only's have a very different view of the world and the people in it. I think it may be true that they see themselves as the centre and everyone else revolving around them.That is unless as I said they have had significant people in their lives who challenge them and interact with them on a regular basis.
And Virgil I agree with Same leadership and being put in charge are two very different things. As oldest or eldest the parents give you all this worry of seeing to this and that and making sure all is done well and your siblings are behaving and the house doesn't start on fire. It can be very exhausting and a fearful thing but the oldest often assumes a more adult view of things because he/she was the first one the parents tried out all their pet theories and disciplines on. Being a leader to me at any rate means an inherent love of being in charge, going for it, being tough and aggressive even if charming and loving every bloody fight up the ladder to success. I hated being a women's editor, I chose afterwards to be in research and to be a free lance. Too shy and couldn't take having to interact with all those people whether I wanted to or not. On the forum I can react or choose not to with all who participate.And do if from the safety and quiet of my own home.
starrwriter
12-30-2005, 04:16 PM
Wow, I have a completely different view. I'm an only and I'm none of those things mentioned. From my perspective I think I grew up faster, learning more of the "real" world at an earlier age then most. You're right about the not having to share and not competing for attention, but there's also that bit about being alone a good deal of the time.
I would have hated siblings. I enjoyed being the center of my parents' attention all the time -- the apple of their eye, so to speak. A brother or sister would have been a fly in the ointment of my egotism.
rachel
12-30-2005, 08:19 PM
or worse still they probably wouldn't have survived.
And have you ever thought that perhaps you were an only for a reason hmmmm dear Starr. Perhaps having you frightened them out of having any more.
And so there, you admit it, you were spoiled and self centred and liked it so much you just went on from there to a paradise where you took up with bush rats, murdered piggies and any competition and still are the centre of your universe.....all all all alone out there somewhere.
starrwriter
12-30-2005, 10:22 PM
or worse still they probably wouldn't have survived.
Reminds me of a dark Steven Wright joke: "I was an only child -- eventually."
And have you ever thought that perhaps you were an only for a reason hmmmm dear Starr. Perhaps you frightened them out of having any more.
I did my best to discourage the idea.
And so there, you admit it, you were spoiled and self centred and liked it so much ...
I admit nothing. I deny everything.
...you just went on from there to a paradise where you took up with bush rats, murdered piggies and any competition ...
I hunted dangerous wild boar who would have eviscerated me if I had let them. And what have you heard about my human competition who vanished mysteriously? Don't believe the stories about bodies found in lava caves.
and still are the centre of your universe.....all all all alone out there somewhere.
Well, duh. I can't be the center of someone else's universe. And I'm never alone except when I want to be.
rachel
12-31-2005, 10:54 AM
I have never met anyone in my life, except a few grade nines who were practically brain dead from smoking unknown substances, that can be as snide and bratty, as annoying and obnoxious as you in three words or less. Duh,? I haven't heard anyone say that since I read Archie comics.
Well done Starr
Nightshade
01-01-2006, 08:29 PM
MEN!! and fathers (no make that my father) in paticular sheesh! :flare:
IUm going to visit my paternal grandmothert in amonth and then he comes and tells me after all the rest of the sensible (read female) members of the family tell him not to. That the rest of the family is thinking of not going to visit her this summer but go to all these nice places instead. Oh and if she asks me if theyre coming say they are.
Was there any reason for me to know this?! And the one thing THE ONE THING I object to is lying.
Now I know and Ill have to tell her if she asks and she will!
grrrrrrrrrrrr
men! :flare:
emily655321
01-02-2006, 10:15 AM
men! :flare:It's awful that he's put you in such an uncomfortable position, Night. :(
But, still, to be the accuracy police, I'm sure he wasn't acting on the behalf of men everywhere.
Nightshade
01-02-2006, 10:21 AM
yes I know..... and really its not inpredictable at all either, I just needed to vent :redface:
smilingtearz
01-04-2006, 03:15 AM
men! :flare:
that's exactly the way the thread started!
Outlander
01-04-2006, 05:47 AM
(insert laughter here)
Sorry Smilingtearz; but look whats become of it. ;)
smilingtearz
01-04-2006, 08:17 AM
yeah!..what's become of it!!!
and that laughter outlander...didn't sound very nice!
:p
Outlander
01-04-2006, 01:05 PM
Awww. Smile - It's what you do best.
starrwriter
01-04-2006, 02:07 PM
yeah!..what's become of it!!!
This thread has had longer life than a rich widow who gets sheep embryo injections twice a year.
smilingtearz
01-05-2006, 11:48 AM
sheep embryo injections...
:lol:
this man's funny!
starrwriter
01-05-2006, 03:41 PM
sheep embryo injections...
:lol:
this man's funny!
Thank you. I'll be playing nightclubs in Las Vegas in no time.
smilingtearz
01-07-2006, 06:29 AM
:lol: im sure!
RobinHood3000
01-07-2006, 07:58 AM
Goodness knows he'll have plenty to keep himself occupied in Vegas...
smilingtearz
05-14-2006, 12:04 PM
it's been so long since i posted here... but i do still believe the same :D
WhimsySA
05-14-2006, 12:15 PM
Maybe we just don't understand guys & maybe guys don't understand us girls!
We all have different thought patterns & generally girls think & accept things differently to guys.
Nice thread Eva!
smilingtearz
05-14-2006, 12:35 PM
hey i'm back only for a few minutes though....
Virgil
05-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Maybe we just don't understand guys & maybe guys don't understand us girls!
We all have different thought patterns & generally girls think & accept things differently to guys.
Nice thread Eva!
Maybe we do understand each other and don't like it! ;)
AimusSage
05-14-2006, 01:20 PM
What's that? You think I'm a senseless buffoon that annoys? Well, I'll concede to the buffoon part. :p
WhimsySA
05-14-2006, 01:48 PM
Maybe we do understand each other and don't like it! ;)
That is quite possible. Actually it is very possible.
Scheherazade
05-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Maybe we do understand each other and don't like it! ;)I doubt that. I don't think any men could dislike it if they could understand women! ;)
WhimsySA
05-14-2006, 02:05 PM
I doubt that. I don't think any men could dislike it if they could understand women! ;)
Yes, maybe. But on the other hand maybe they just act stupid so that they don't get killed if they confront us.
Nightshade
05-14-2006, 03:12 PM
I dont know where I read it recently you know it might havebeen one of shakespears sonnets?
anyway the basic drift is women act babyish to be adorable. maybe its like that really men act the way they do becasue women excpect them to and they dont want to dissapoint.
On a side note this thread isnt the same without its companion thread is it? but then again That one was locked, wasnt it??
:rolleyes:
RobinHood3000
05-14-2006, 03:14 PM
Which one was the companion thread again?
Nightshade
05-14-2006, 03:33 PM
You know the one? hey maybe it wa sths thread after all ? the one star started that got nasty.
smilingtearz
05-14-2006, 11:29 PM
yeah something about women... that thread quite started with this one ias far as i recall :nod:
imthefoolonthehill
05-29-2006, 04:52 PM
I read the two pages of this thread, and had a thought...
has anyone heard the song by Reliant Kelly called, "mood rings"
Hilarious.
*exasperation*
Women confuse me. Men don't.
I find it easy to see motives in men. Women, leave me guessing.
You see, I figure there are equal amounts of stupidity in both genders... its just that with women, people seem to justify it by saying they are just emotional... whereas people justify it with men by saying...they are just stupid.
Nonsense. I have lived with guys long enough to know how intensly emotional guys can get. Just yesterday I saw a man hiding his tears while watching X-men 3.
Madhuri
09-20-2006, 03:56 AM
Men are very predictable. The art of unpredictability is known only to women, we know how to give pleasant surprises.
miss tenderness
09-20-2006, 04:09 AM
what about unpleasant surprises:D? is it the speaciality of men or women?
AimusSage
09-20-2006, 04:17 AM
women! definitely a women's thing! :nod:
The most common thing is when they go shopping and come back with lots of clothes, and when you ask them how they paid for it, they go 'Oh I used your credit card' :eek2:
miss tenderness
09-20-2006, 04:33 AM
well, men are not unpleasant-surprises free too!
the most common thing is when he comes back from work smells like a perfume of other woman!how? she just passed to take paperwork from my office and she was wearing a very intensed perfume:D
AimusSage
09-20-2006, 04:38 AM
Well, I don't see how the guy can help it if the women in his office insist on wearing such strong perfumes :p
miss tenderness
09-20-2006, 04:45 AM
well, i don't see any blame on women if they have the credit cards in their hands:p they betray,we buy:D:lol:who is fair?
AimusSage
09-20-2006, 04:49 AM
See, and how do the women get their hands on the credit card? I doubt men just give it to them :lol:
Or there are some really stupid men in the world :D
Never mind I think I know a few stupid guys. :)
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