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amuse
09-13-2005, 08:48 PM
whilst (:) what a pretty word, never get to use it) researching Lady Mary Wortley Montague for my microbiology class (i'm a nerd like that) i discovered that she wrote poetry! (some background on her: she is the person primarily responsible for the eventual eradication of smallpox, and lived from 1689-1762.)

and guess what! yes, she wrote poetry. did you know? i didn't...if there are threads here i haven't performed a search. anyway, if you didn't click i should read these before posting, but haven't, so i shall read with you, yay, sort of like story hour. :)

hm. here is an e-text that you might find very enjoyable: http://www.poemhunter.com/lady-mary-wortley-montagu/resources/poet-6576/page-1/ - it says to right click and "save target as." i'm unable to copy from acrobat here in the comp lab, but if you have it, you'll find a number of her works.



THE LOVER: A BALLAD

I

At length, by so much importunity pressed,
Take, Congreve, at once, the inside of my breast:
This stupid indiff'rence so often you blame,
Is not owing to nature, to fear, or to shame.
I am not so cold as a virgin in lead,
Nor is Sunday's sermon so strong in my head:
I know but too well how time flies along,
That we live but few years, and yet fewer are young.

II

But I hate to be cheated, and never will buy
Long years of repentance for moments of joy.
Oh, was there a man (but where shall I find
Good-sense and good-nature so equally joined?)
Would value his pleasure, contribute to mine;
Not meanly would boast, nor would lewdly design,
Nor over severe, yet not stupidly vain,
For I would have the power, tho' not give the pain.

III

No pedant, yet learned; nor rake-helly gay,
Or laughing, because he has nothing to say;
To all my whole sex obliging and free,
Yet ne'er be he fond of any but me;
In public preserve the decorum that's just,
And shew in his eyes he is true to his trust;
Then rarely approach, and respectfully bow,
But not fulsomely pert, or foppishly low.

IV

But when the long hours of public are past,
And we meet with champagne and a chicken at last,
May ev'ry fond pleasure that moment endear;
Be banish'd afar both discretion and fear!
Forgetting or scorning the airs of the crowd,
He may cease to be formal, and I to be proud,
Till lost in the joy, we confess that we live,
And he may be rude, and yet I may forgive.

V

And that my delight may be solidly fixed,
Let the friend and the lover be handsomely mixed,
In whose tender bosom my soul may confide,
Whose kindness can soothe me, whose counsel can guide,
From such a dear lover as here I describe,
No danger should fright me, no millions should bribe;
But till this astonishing creature I know
As I long have liv'd chaste, I will keep myself so.

VI

I never will stare with the wanton coquet,
Or be caught by a vain affectation of wit.
The toasters and songsters may try all their art,
But never shall enter the pass of my heart.
I loathe the lewd rake, the dress'd fopling despise:
Before such pursuers the nice virgin flies:
And as Ovid has sweetly in parables told,
We harden like trees, and like rivers grow cold.

mono
09-14-2005, 09:39 PM
Wow, thanks, amuse! I had no idea that she ever wrote poetry, but, besides committing to her scientific work, I see shared a hand in art, as well.
I find it very respectable when a scientist (or someone dedicated to science, mathematics, etc.) can also contribute thought to the arts, and vice versa - a very well-balanced brain, one could say. :)

amuse
09-15-2005, 10:12 AM
mm. rather like yours, yes? ;)

and you're welcome!

mono
09-15-2005, 01:12 PM
mm. rather like yours, yes? ;)
:lol:
I try, but I do not consider myself any John Keats (who worked as a doctor and surgeon before devoting himself entirely to poetry). I like to think you, amuse, carry that talent more thoroughly, obviously having a natural affinity to complex mathematics.
The balance of thought, between art (more abstract) and science (more concrete), I think, seems difficult to comprehend, nearly involving an artistic conception of science/mathematics, and a scientific perspective on art. Theorists like Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking require some sort of creativity, since it seems, to me, the way all theories begin, and I cannot imagine, if one had talent in visual arts, for example, what they could have created - perhaps very intriguing models of multi-dimensions.
This reminds me, apparently, Marcel Duchamp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Duchamp), besides constructing his mind-bending sculptures and paintings, also deserved the status as a master chess player (requiring much linear, mathematical-related thought).

Aurora Ariel
09-15-2005, 08:10 PM
Thankyou for posting that!I'm glad to find out about this lady as I had never even heard of her before.I had previously heard about a few scientifically minded individuals who also happened to write poetry, but noticed the lack of females.I had read about John Keats and especially Dr Erasmus Darwin, who was the grandfather of the great Charles Darwin.Last year I read his most famous poem The Temple of Nature.There is a couple modern poets who have also studied to become doctors or written poetry as well.There is one whose poems I read in a Oxford collected work of 20th century poetry, but had not heard of until then.I also believe that in certain areas of science it can be beneficial to have a more balanced brain, especially with the more abstract areas such as theoretical physics.I think there was a degree of creativity involved with the hard mathematical calculations and concepts in conceptualizing certain areas of thought in such major modern theories such as M(membrane theory) and string theory.Sometimes I think half my brain is for literature and half for science-because I'm so drawn between the two areas.Literature and science are my favourite topics:)