Soul Mates

[Gozeta]

Is it possible that God can find you, your soulmate by just prayer? And is it possible that you may not have one?

[Dyrwen]

If there's a god involved there are a few possibilities:

Your prayers aren't doing anything, God already planned for said soulmate to find you.
Your prayers are in fact changing God's plan and by having initiative to ask you'll get one.
It is also possible that you have no soulmate at all, whether by God's will or just because you're unlucky.

That's all I can say on the subject, since it's all gibberish to me, but figured I'd drop in and send a few methods into the mix.

[Sitaram]

Abraham Lincoln allegedly once said (paraphrasing) "People are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." (or something to that effect).

I am reminded of Lincoln's words by your question regarding prayer and soul mates, simply because I think we have a lot of choice in the matter of finding someone, choosing them, and working at making ourselves compatible. We must actively choose to be happy and work at it. We must work at relationships to make them successful.

Jesus said something about God already knowing what you need before you even ask for it, yet Jesus frequently encourages prayer. Perhaps asking for things and getting things isnt what prayer is really supposed to be all about.

The best advice I ever saw anywhere, in a book by Gloria Steinem, entitled "Self-Esteem", is, "It is easier to make a friend into a lover than it is to make a lover into a friend."

With regard to the entire question of God's existence, and divine will, one of the best answers I ever saw was given by psychologist Alfred Adler. He had given a lecture, and was answering questions from the audience. Someone, asked "Dr. Adler! What about God? What do you have to say about God?" Alfred Adler simply replied, "If there is a God, then I hope he will be pleased with how I have led my life." Adler's reply, by itself, does not tell us much at all about Adler's religious beliefs, but it does tell us something very interesting. Adler is saying that regardless of whether or not there is a God, he has chosen to live his life, to do something with his life, which would be pleasing to such a God. Adler is saying that he cares about honor, character, integrity and duty for their own sake, apart from any fear of punishment, desire for reward, or petition for assistance.

We have choices in life. We can choose what to do with our free time. If we stay in our room watching television or playing video games, then we are unlikely to meet anyone. If we choose to go to a bar or club, we are likely to meet people who smoke and drink and are promiscuous. If we take a night course in business or accounting, we are likely to meet people who are ambitious, industrious and practical. If we donate our time to serving food at a homeless shelter, or something similar, we are likely to meet people who are compassionate and charitable.

*As I close this little sermonette, I bless you in the name of the Most Holy Trinity (Lincoln, Steinem and Adler). Go in peace my child, and sin no more (than is absolutely necessary).

*(just adding a dash of humor)....

[Avalive]

Finding a lover is easy, But soulmate? I don't know. I only know there are some ones out there can have one,while most of people just CAN NOT. Believe or not. That's why true love is precious.

I dunno why I answered about this retarded question. Sorry. So Sorry. You must be under 15 to ask this kind of question. Got any bf / gf?(needless to answer ,tho)

[Bianca Fransen]

Your question reminds me of one of my favourite songs:Some of Gods greatest gifts are unanswered prayers. I believe this to be true - I think that people sometimes wish for things that might not be the best for them at this particular moment.. And that God then gives another gift instead. Or something like that.
Anyway: I believe that it is possible to meet someone that makes you feel instantly relaxed and happy.. as if you have known that person for years. I do not believe that is your one-and-only soulmate.. But I do think that that feels so good that it looks like you have found your soulmate :thumbs_up.
Good luck finding yours!

[Sitaram]

I read somewhere that internet courtships are beneficial for women, because the nature of males is such that they can spend months with you "doing" activities like dinner, movies, bowling, whatever, but never really COMMUNICATE.... but on the internet ALL YOU HAVE ARE WORDS.... and women want communication...

I recently saw a cartoon in the New Yorker Magazine, a young man and woman are strolling along the beach, hand in hand, obviously they have just met and fallen in love, and he says to her "I cant wait to see what you are like online"

[Theshizznigg]

It is also much easier if you are a shy natured person, etc. To communicate properly under a condition of pressure.
The beauty of the Computer is, it is like the masks in Lord Of The Flies, one can hide beneath it and be freed from the restraints that their personality would normally cause.
Just don't become obsessed with downloading wild pig pictures, and ruling the forum:).

[Gozeta]

It is also much easier if you are a shy natured person, etc. To communicate properly under a condition of pressure.
The beauty of the Computer is, it is like the masks in Lord Of The Flies, one can hide beneath it and be freed from the restraints that their personality would normally cause.
Just don't become obsessed with downloading wild pig pictures, and ruling the forum:).

Ha! You think?

[Grumbleguts]

If there is a God and he is as omnipotent as Gods are supposed to be and he is so inclined, then it is quite feasible that he could find your soulmate. Personally I would consider actually getting out and meeting people as a more practical alternative. The chances of bumping into that special someone while shut in your bedroom on your knees is slight. And there is always the possibility that one or more of the three conditions in my opening sentence is false in which case you would be wasting time that could be put to better use in your quest.
And besides I have often heard it said that God helps those that helps themselves.

On the subject of the existence of a soulmate. I believe that that is as difficult to pin down as the existence of a God. Some people claim to have found such a creature. Others certainly have not. In my own overextended existence I have encountered only pseudo-soulmates, pyrites that proved to be less bright than they originally shone. Or perhaps it was my light that dimmed? ;)

[rufioag]

My belief on this is that praying and asking God for a sole mate is selfish but is none the less important becuase it also shows a dependence on God. God doesnt always gives us what we want, but He will always give us what we need. I think that is important to realize. God has blessed us with different qualities and God will place opportunities in our life, but it is our job to take those opportunities and run with it.

[Mililalil XXIV]

Is it possible that God can find you, your soulmate by just prayer? And is it possible that you may not have one?
For each soul, if that one may get married with GOD's Blessing, he may only find that Blessing in marrying that one other created out of the same cloth of essence as his/herself. Because of the variety of qualities of character from person to person, the right person may not yet be everything he or she should be in stature of Virtue, but Love would keep oneself in reserve for that one alone. Some things, however unsure their future success now appears, are worth fighting for to the very end. Love does not rest in a defeatest choice, but in the object of fulfilling Its Destiny.

Some are meant to be as eunuchs for the Kingdom of GOD, but this Life is for them not an unfulfilment, but a substantial Vocation. One only needs a certain other because GOD made him/her to. When we have become as Angels, the mode of this present existence will be as dimly recalled to us then as infanthood is to us now. It is a treasure in its time, to be redeemed to its fullest value. We noe eat and drink of necessity because that is temporarilly assigned to us. When we have become as the Angels in Heaven, we shall no longer have the bonds of hunger and thirst. But the closeness of husband to wife is fully redeemed in the two being bound in mutual intimacy with GOD as a sacred threefold chord. That intimacy of Spirit and soul will continue into Eternity as an ever-deepening family bond, the two that were once husband and wife having a special bond forever, but in a mode more mature than the temporal sexual mode.

[woeful painter]

Is it possible that God can find you, your soulmate by just prayer? And is it possible that you may not have one?

Both can be true, but I believe one doesn't have to pray hard for God will eventually intertwine yours and your soulmate's road someday...or it can also be possible for one to be blessed with being single...as they call it in Catholicism blessed singleness. For those who are destined without a soulmate.
But still...I don't believe in soulmates, as much as I don't believe in destiny...

[Gozeta]

So basically its whether or not it's in God's plans. Which decides if you have a soulmate or not. I really hope that its not the case with me. I always feel alone...

[smilingtearz]

virgil... your avtar has a soul mate here it seems.. :D

[mir]

i don't think your soulmate has a lot to do with God. i think my parents are definitely soulmates, and they're neither very religious. i also think, though, that there's no real "soulmate" for a person - each relationship they form has varying degrees of "soulmate" in them, and there is never a single perfect "soulmate" - but there are some more suited than others. then again, i wouldn't even know about this . . . and Gozeta, good luck; i'm sure you'll find somebody.

[Green Lady]

I don't think there is one person for you but there is a type of person for you out there. But if you think about it and you believe that God is all knowing, He already knows who you're going to marry. So, I guess that could sort of be like a soulmate?

[Scheherazade]

The possibility of God acting as a match maker for all the lonely hearts is a rather attractive idea... makes one want to believe but, if God does exist, I would like to think that he would be dedicating his time and energy to more pressing jobs in his agenda (such as starving guys and gals) than simply worrying about the single guys and gals in his realm.

[AimusSage]

I think it's up to us to find a soul mate, what if two girls believe that their soulmate is one and the same guy? Would God clone the guy so both girls can have their soulmate?

It seems more likely God gives everyone a load of common sense and a free will to figure it out on their own.

That is all ofcourse under the assumption that God exists.

[Green Lady]

I agree, there a lot more serious things in life that occupy God, which is why it's left up to us with a warning from Him that we must choose wisely when choosing a companion.

[Page]

I am god just like I think you and every living thing is god. The idea of soulmates is a very silly idea, but it makes people feel there's a structure...a purpose to life, so I guess it is necessary for the social order.

[subterranean]

I agree, there a lot more serious things in life that occupy God, which is why it's left up to us with a warning from Him that we must choose wisely when choosing a companion.


Well, I suppose for some people, being lonely is one of the greatest issues in their lives and that feeling can be a real pain. I mean I suppose it'd be hearth-breaking when the God you believed to be controlling everything in yourlife said something like "Sorry, I gotta take care your fellow brothers and sisters in Africa first. They are more important than you." ..Ouch..

[Gozeta]

The possibility of God acting as a match maker for all the lonely hearts is a rather attractive idea... makes one want to believe but, if God does exist, I would like to think that he would be dedicating his time and energy to more pressing jobs in his agenda (such as starving guys and gals) than simply worrying about the single guys and gals in his realm.

Don't you think that God is every where? That he can do millions of things at once? Thats why I think that even something like this; as silly as some poeple might think. That God would take care of even the most smallest of things. Why wouldn't He want you to be happy right?

Is it wrong to want someone that you can share your pains and joys of life with (also vice-versa)? Soulmate---someone that completes the other half of me.

[water lily]

Something my physical anthropology prof said last year really stuck out to me. He said, "You know when you meet someone, and she's really amazing, and you get to know her better, and you complement each other perfectly. And you say to yourself, 'This is love, I've finally found it. I want to be with this person for the rest of my life... And it's just so convenient that she only lives 5 miles away'". He went on to say that chances are that we'll be able to find our 'soul-mate' (or partner, if you guys wish to preserve the sanctity of the word) in a ten mile radius of our house.

[AimusSage]

I completely agree with your anthropology prof.

[subterranean]

Don't you think that God is every where? That he can do millions of things at once?

I agree and that's why God deserves to be called God.

[mtpspur]

God brought my wife into my life when I quit chasing the ladies (age 29 and many bad -bittersweet experiences. All my fault I assure you. When I met my future wife I was hanging around a lady near my age and rank (I was in the USAF) waiting for her to get over waitng for her married boyfriend to divorce his wife and commit to her. At that point in my life I was pretty tired of the "games" and made no pressure on her. Then out of no where my much younger wife comes along. She helped make me clean up on act and consider my lack of commitment to God and relationships and her we are 25 years later still married (with some major bumps in the road--again my fault) but convinced that contrary to external evidence she and I are God's perfect plan for the two of us. Has not been easy but rarely boring--I am no prize. She is a monument to God's patience or a testimony to settlling depends on which week it is. ANd no the married guy never left his wife for all I know.

[Mililalil XXIV]

I see no purpose for Marriage if there is not one other created and chosen for you. Without two special persons, there is no reason to keep things belonging to Marriage unique to Marriage, thus no reason for it if that were the case. I believe that saying there is not one right person is a first drop toward a rushing river of infidelity and polygamy, and is a defeatest reaction to some difficulty with winning that one special person over. As much as I have always dreaded and hated the fact of it, Love (the Marital sort) is High Romance put into concrete form through much Faith and Hope. I always thought, when I watched a highly romantic movie in which I felt tired just wanting to see the good-hearted man get the Love of his life, seeing how he had to go to great lenghts of adventure that he never could have had heart to go through had he first seen the whole script before him, how I dreaded to have to win anyone over or risk all for a Love I couldn't bear to fail to get. That's just life, and, as one writer once said, no real man would ever back down from such a challenge. There could be nothing sweeter than getting the one you would pick out of all humanity as many times over as you might have a choice before you. I know there is but one for me - and, having already weathered against fire, ice, fatigue and depression, I still trudge forward to stand in the enchanted wood with my lady, which no other but GOD can ever find his way into.

[smilingtearz]

Something my physical anthropology prof said... chances are that we'll be able to find our 'soul-mate' (or partner, if you guys wish to preserve the sanctity of the word) in a ten mile radius of our house.

:eek:..
I should make sure i know everyone within a 10 mile radius..
does that mean that the "someone-somewhere" can't be far away. and that if you like someone who is as a matter of fact very far away... the person can't be yor soul mate?

[ShoutGrace]

:eek:..
I should make sure i know everyone within a 10 mile radius..
does that mean that the "someone-somewhere" can't be far away. and that if you like someone who is as a matter of fact very far away... the person can't be yor soul mate?


You'd better hope not (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4389&page=164&pp=15)! :p

[ElizabethSewall]

You'd better hope not (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4389&page=164&pp=15)! :pHeehee... You make me giggle! :lol:

[soulsistachick]

Where did you get your avatar from????

[ElizabethSewall]

Me? Romeo + Juliet, Claire Danes. :cool:

[smilingtearz]

You'd better hope not (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4389&page=164&pp=15)! :p

don't bring that up all the time... i don't wish to publicise it :lol: :D :p

and Elizabeth stop giggling!

[ElizabethSewall]

and Elizabeth stop giggling!You began and now I can't help it, it's highly contagious! :lol:

[ShoutGrace]

You two just can't help but hijack threads, can you? :lol:

BTW my post here does not implicate me in the hijacking!

[RobinHood3000]

Given the prevalence of divorce in the modern world, I say that either God doesn't concern Himself with human romance, or we humans have done a peachy job of screwing that up, too.

Personally, the idea of soulmates doesn't sit well with me. It removes all reason for maknig oneself appealing to other people--and regardless of what people say about conforming to other people's standards, one who doesn't bother to impress anybody is usually repulsive and distasteful. People are too fickle, and not choosy enough, for there to be any one person who is ideal for any one other person throughout the courses of their entire lives.

[mono]

As with everything, I remain quite skeptic on the idea of soul mates, but more taking the side of soul mates' two-way nonexistence, though I do not intend on insulting anyone's beliefs.
The term 'soul mate' already makes me feel somewhat unsettled, implying, somehow, the separation of souls to begin, and the separation of all souls besides one's alleged 'soul-twin,' which does not have to always suggest relationship, marrige, and co. With one who someone loves, naturally one will feel a charisma, agreement, and all-around, vague good feeling within; whether this feeling seems related to another proving as a 'soul mate,' I cannot claim for sure, as no one can quite empirically prove or disprove the existence of the soul, let alone the existence or non-existence of 'soul mates.' In essence, more earth-based, I think the feeling of love, friendship, and finding someone one loves comes bases more psychologically (with reason - love seems a wonderful thing, to say the least) than soul-ly (:p).

[kjt1981]

I definitely believe in the idea of soul mate, and dont think it has anything to do with praying. By praying your putting your faith in someone else, hopin someone or something else is going to do the work for you. I dont believe in God, i believe that to get to where you want to be its upto you and nobody ese- trust yourself, be honest to yourself and you'll find your way.

When you do find your soul mate you'll find that there is a total connection there between the two of you, psychologically, spiritually, completely. Its ace, but you've got to make it happen.

[amanda_isabel]

i believe that we have soul mates. God does have people set aside for us. why worry about our soulmates-who they are, what they are, and when we'll meet them? they'll be our soulmates whatever happens.

if you do find a person that brings out the best in you and you do the same for him/her, then congratulations...

soul mate doesnt necessarily mean spouse. it can mean a friend. everyone will have soulmates but not everyone's soulmates are their spouses. not everyone will get married but everyone does have a soulmate.

[Mililalil XXIV]

Given the prevalence of divorce in the modern world, I say that either God doesn't concern Himself with human romance, or we humans have done a peachy job of screwing that up, too.
By people arbitrarily marrying whatever person they first feel able to relate to well, people usually hastily end up with anyone but the right person. Marriage is not something to be rushed into just to have a nice, easily attainable person at hand to fill a spousal role. The role exists to facilitate the union of the two right people - no person is just filler for another's loneliness or lust.

[Gozeta]

So one should be picky, look for closely at someone that lives a 10 mile radius from me :-). Plus, not to be too hasty when I "think" the right one shows up. So, a soulmate can be from anywhere. It might not even exist by some opinions. Making the case that you might just have to "settle". I really don't like that idea....and I really hope I don't end up "settling" instead of finding the other half of my soul.

[Scheherazade]

Don't you think that God is every where? That he can do millions of things at once? Thats why I think that even something like this; as silly as some poeple might think. That God would take care of even the most smallest of things. Why wouldn't He want you to be happy right?

Is it wrong to want someone that you can share your pains and joys of life with (also vice-versa)? Soulmate---someone that completes the other half of me.No, I don't think God is everywhere... At least not at the places he should be, in my opinion... Such as places hit by natural disasters or where innocent people suffer through famines or even at wars. Since these things still happen, I do not think that, even if the God exists, he is able to take care of the smallest of things.

I don't think it is wrong to be happy and find someone to share your life with -if that is what you want- but I think compared to greater problems in life, I am of the opinion that it might be a better idea to try to solve at the problems which we can deal with.

And try to explain your belief that your loneliness and boredom is as great a problem as their starvation and dehydration to an African child, please.

Rather than praying, getting out more and meeting new people might be a more constructive step towards finding a partner for yourself, I believe.

[RJbibliophil]

I know that God exists, and that He is omnipresent. I think a combination of getting to know people and prayer is the best idea. Not running after mates and not withdrawing from them either.

[mir]

do you think it's possible, though, that one person could find their soulmate, but the other person doesn't think the first is their own soulmate? (sorry that's phrased so confusingly)

[ShoutGrace]

I think that the nature of soulmatism predilects a compulsory love from both parties. Try that for badly phrased!

[mir]

but if you can only have one soulmate could that always be true? and i like my confusion better. : P : D