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angryteacher
06-25-2005, 03:09 PM
Hi yall, I am a eleventh grade summer school teacher, and I need someone to answer some questions or make me an answer key to questions of the book tale of two cities. I am too busy at school to do it so I am hoping someone would help..?! If anyone would like to help please let me know and I'll give you the questions.. thanks ahead of time, ~Mr. Anderson

Basil
06-25-2005, 03:22 PM
Maybe if you post the questions, someone will know whether or not they can help . . . ?

PeterL
06-26-2005, 08:28 AM
After seeing that request, I won't feel dishonest in giving students answers for their schoolwork.

mono
06-26-2005, 04:08 PM
Sure, angryteacher, just post the questions, and we will surely help.
Welcome to the forum. :)

joe gough
06-26-2005, 04:35 PM
Hi yall, I am a eleventh grade summer school teacher, and I need someone to answer some questions or make me an answer key to questions of the book tale of two cities. I am too busy at school to do it so I am hoping someone would help..?! If anyone would like to help please let me know and I'll give you the questions.. thanks ahead of time, ~Mr. Anderson


Why are you angry? I taught high school English. What are your questions?

angryteacher
06-26-2005, 06:52 PM
Book 2 Chapter 5
..............................
1.) This chapter is mostly about:

A.) the accident in the road
B.) the Duke's palace
C.) the Marquis' handsome face
D.) Monsieur Defarge's philosophy

2.) the date is now:

A.) July, 1790
B.) July, 1780
C.) July, 1800
D.) July, 1870

3.) The action of this chapter is set in:

A.) London
B.) Dover
C.) Los Angeles
D.) Paris

4.) The Marquis is about how old?

A.) 30
B.) 40
C.) 50
D.) 60

5.) We can tell that the meeting between the Duke and the Marquis

A.) was a great success
B.) did not take place
C.) did not go well for Marquis
D.) ended in bloodshed

6.) From the story you can tell that the Marquis' carraige has

A.) has ran over a child
B.) lost a wheel
C.) run over a dog
D.) gotten stuck in a ditch

7.) You can tell that the child's father is

A.) Monsieur Defarge
B.) the Marquis
C.) the Duke
D.) Gaspard

8.) You can figure out from the story that the tall, thin figure who follows the Marquis' carriage is

A.) Gaspard
B.) the Duke
C.) Monsieur Defarge
D.) Charles Darnay

9.) Which of the following words best describes the mood of the Marquis after having run over the child?

A.) Fear
B.) Sadness
C.) Indifference
D.) Horror

10.) When one of his gold coins is thrown back at him, the mood of the Marquis' changes to

A.) Anger
b.) Sadness
c.) Fear
D.) Horror

1.) What kind of a person is the Marquis? Why do you think his greatest concern seems to be for his horses?

2.) Who do you suppose threw the gold coin at the Marquis' carriage? Explain your answer.

.................................................. ...............................

There's the questions, I still have much more, but I was wondering if I put up more if you'd be kind enough to answer them? I am just asking ahead of time so I don't have to type it all for no reason.... thank's for answering these, really I do appreciate it. I have more!

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 07:24 PM
You do realize that answering such questions might actually FORCE us to read Book 2, Chapter 5? These questions are fiendishly clever. I suspect that forcing some unsuspecting student to actually read Chapter 5 word for word is the hidden agenda behind all of this! Well, I was not born yesterday. I am not so gullible and I am not going to take this lying down!

I am going to try downloading the entire text of Tale of Two Cities from
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/9/98/98.txt

Then I shall cut and past just Book 2 Chapter 5, to lessen the search time, and isolate it to the chapter in question.

Gutenberg.com does mention this in the Subject line:
France -- History -- Revolution, 1789-1799 -- Fiction

The date may provided may actually aid in answering some questions.

Based on this alone, I will choose A.) July, 1790
as the answer to question #2.

I shall also rely upon the excellent and free resources at sparknotes.com

If all this fails, I shall devise ingenious search strings and use google.com to find the questions already answered for me in the posts and essays of various web sites.

There is never, I repeat NEVER, any reason to be rash and hasty and actually read any assignments. Reading (I wont even use that wretched verb), rather skimming should be considered only as a last resort, after all other avenues have been explored and exhausted.

After all, half of all knowledge lies in knowing where and how to find it.

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 07:28 PM
Step 1:

The Table of Contents tells me that the cursed chapter which we need to cut and paste is entitled The Jackal:

Book the Second--the Golden Thread

Chapter I Five Years Later
Chapter II A Sight
Chapter III A Disappointment
Chapter IV Congratulatory
Chapter V The Jackal
Chapter VI Hundreds of People
Chapter VII Monseigneur in Town

==================

OK, Microsoft Words wordcount function tells me that this chapter is 2,136 words long. You don't expect me to read all that, do you?

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 07:49 PM
Something is rotten in Denmark! I do not find the string "coin" appearing in "The Jackal". I do find a coin throwing scene, however, when I search the entire text, in
Chapter VII Monseigneur in Town. And further searches reveal that this is the only mention of the word "coin" (singular) in the entire novel.

(excerpt)
He took out his purse.

"It is extraordinary to me," said he, "that you people cannot take
care of yourselves and your children. One or the other of you is for
ever in the way. How do I know what injury you have done my horses.
See! Give him that."

He threw out a gold coin for the valet to pick up, and all the heads
craned forward that all the eyes might look down at it as it fell.
The tall man called out again with a most unearthly cry, "Dead!"

He was arrested by the quick arrival of another man, for whom the
rest made way. On seeing him, the miserable creature fell upon his
shoulder, sobbing and crying, and pointing to the fountain, where
some women were stooping over the motionless bundle, and moving
gently about it. They were as silent, however, as the men.

"I know all, I know all," said the last comer. "Be a brave man, my
Gaspard! It is better for the poor little plaything to die so, than
to live. It has died in a moment without pain. Could it have lived
an hour as happily?"

"You are a philosopher, you there," said the Marquis, smiling.
"How do they call you?"

"They call me Defarge."

"Of what trade?"

"Monsieur the Marquis, vendor of wine."

"Pick up that, philosopher and vendor of wine," said the Marquis,
throwing him another gold coin, "and spend it as you will.
The horses there; are they right?"

Without deigning to look at the assemblage a second time, Monsieur
the Marquis leaned back in his seat, and was just being driven away
with the air of a gentleman who had accidentally broke some common
thing, and had paid for it, and could afford to pay for it; when his
ease was suddenly disturbed by a coin flying into his carriage,
and ringing on its floor.

"Hold!" said Monsieur the Marquis. "Hold the horses! Who threw that?"

He looked to the spot where Defarge the vendor of wine had stood,
a moment before; but the wretched father was grovelling on his face
on the pavement in that spot, and the figure that stood beside him
was the figure of a dark stout woman, knitting.

"You dogs!" said the Marquis, but smoothly, and with an unchanged front,
except as to the spots on his nose: "I would ride over any of you
very willingly, and exterminate you from the earth. If I knew which
rascal threw at the carriage, and if that brigand were sufficiently
near it, he should be crushed under the wheels."

Sounds to me like the answer to 10 is ANGER.

10.) When one of his gold coins is thrown back at him, the mood of the Marquis' changes to

A.) Anger

6.) From the story you can tell that the Marquis' carraige has

A.) has ran over a child
B.) lost a wheel
C.) run over a dog
D.) gotten stuck in a ditch

ANSWER: A.) has run over a child

7.) You can tell that the child's father is

A.) Monsieur Defarge
B.) the Marquis
C.) the Duke
D.) Gaspard

ANSWER: A.) Monsieur Defarge

amuse
06-26-2005, 07:58 PM
as you have the questions, teacher, why do you need US to make you an answer key? i assume you've read the book?

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 07:59 PM
Sparknotes.com leads me to suspect that the Novel takes place in Paris

So, the answer to 3.) The action of this chapter is set in: D.) Paris


(excerpt)

In France, the cruel Marquis Evrémonde runs down a plebian child with his carriage. Manifesting an attitude typical of the aristocracy in regard to the poor at that time, the Marquis shows no regret, but instead curses the peasantry and hurries home to his chateau, where he awaits the arrival of his nephew, Darnay, from England.

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 08:05 PM
In Chapter I, "In Secret" we find the answer to

4.) The Marquis is about how old?

A.) 30
B.) 40
C.) 50
D.) 60

by doing a string search on Evremond, the Marquis' last name:

ANSWER: B.) 40


(excerpt)


"Citizen Defarge," said he to Darnay's conductor, as he took a slip
of paper to write on. "Is this the emigrant Evremonde?"

"This is the man."

"Your age, Evremonde?"

"Thirty-seven."

"Married, Evremonde?"

"Yes."

"Where married?"

"In England."

"Without doubt. Where is your wife, Evremonde?"

"In England."

"Without doubt. You are consigned, Evremonde, to the prison of La Force."

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 08:10 PM
A string search on " duke " reveals that the word does not appear even once in the novel. The same search on spark notes' List of Characters come up empty. Hence I choose:

5.) We can tell that the meeting between the Duke and the Marquis

A.) was a great success
B.) did not take place
C.) did not go well for Marquis
D.) ended in bloodshed


ANSWER B.) DID NOT TAKE PLACE

amuse
06-26-2005, 08:37 PM
somebody, anybody! isn't the teacher s'posed to know this?

angryteacher
06-26-2005, 08:50 PM
amuse, i have not read this book. I am a summer school teacher and i am given books to have the kids read. this is not my lesson plan.

Basil
06-26-2005, 09:48 PM
Where did the questions come from?

Sitaram
06-26-2005, 10:06 PM
I once did an entire Scarlet Letter assignment for one student, using
google.com to find the answers.

I did read the book 40 years ago... but.. that was not much help.
I answered all the questions in about 2 hours, using google and string
search. The student that I helped was full blooded native American
on a reservation. Analyzing the Scarlet Letter by Hawthorne was
something they found alien and daunting. They had grown up in an
environment of material and intellectual poverty. After a few help
sessions, they continued on their own in highschool without asking for
further help.

Even Jesus needed help carrying the cross. We all need help once in a
while. Was Jesus cheating when Simon of Cyrene helped carry the
cross? Sometimes, help means cheating, and sometimes it means
something else.

Is lying always bad? The midwives Shiprah and Puah lied to Pharoah
about the Jewish women being too lively, and giving birth before they
could arrive. These midwives told a "noble lie" to save lives, and it is
said that God rewarded them. When the Nazi officers ask us "have
you any Jews in your basement", do we tell a lie or do the truth?


Once upon a time, a young Buddhist monk had just taken his first
vows, not to lie, and not to cause harm to living beings. He was
walking in the forest, when suddenly a frightened rabbit runs by him
and jumps into the bushes. A moment later, hunters arrive, and ask
the monk "have you seen a rabbit?" If he tells them the truth, then
he breaks his vow not to cause harm to living beings, and if he does
not tell the truth, then he breaks his vow not to lie.

Perhaps the answer is to vow never to vow, and to renounce
renunciation.

Sartre warns us about in the first chapter of "Being and Nothingness" that We are condemned to be free, because the act of renouncing freedom demands and exercise of freedom as a prerequisite.


Many students do not realize how much they can do with search
engines, downloads, and string searches plus, things like Sparknotes.
At my age, it is not really "cheating" for me to read Sparknotes, but
rather a way for me to absorb a lot of knowledge that I could not
otherwise obtain (for lack of time and energy)

Such activity broadens my understanding in a rapid fashion and
broadens my foundation.

Sometimes, something like sparknotes will whet my appetite to read
the book itself.

Sometimes... what looks like cheating.... like when I wrote paper for a
student for whom English is a second language ... is really something
quite different.

They could NEVER have done that paper in the time alloted, and they
would have lost their place in the university, and perhaps been back
in the military or the rice fields,... or something even less desirable in
their totalitarian society.

In reality.... what I did for him was like priming a well with water... it
saved him, and he learned from it.

Last night, he had to write an essay, and I was on line, he said hello,
but did not ask for help.


Some young people just dont have the foggiest idea how to think
abstractly,.... or analyze a poem... or things like that...

Its like training wheels on a bike, thats not cheating... neither are
water wings for a novice swimmer... IF ultimatly they learn to swim
and cycle unaided


It all boils down to something in Socrates, in Plato's Dialogues, now
that I think about it...


Socrates had two very different nicknames.... one was Narke (Greek
for stingray, we get the word narcotic from it)...

Socrates would use refutation to STING people and numb them into
the motionlessness of APORIA (no way out, like checkmate)
whereby, like the slaveboy in the dialogue "Meno", they finally admit,
"Ala ma ton Dion O Sokrates, Egoge ouk oida" (by golly Socrates, I
JUST DONT KNOW)

Diotema, Socrates' female guru, taught him that "the Gods do not love
wisdom, because they possess it."

We only love and strive for that which we do not possess. Hence,
PHILO-Sophia (loving wisdom) becomes a continual process (dialectic)
rather than a final state, an achieved goal or arrived-at destination.
If you THINK you possess knowlege, then you will not seek, enquire....

We do not look for that which we assume that we already possess.
We do not question that which we assume that we thoroughly know
and understand.

Socrates' other nickname is GADFLY (who stings up the lethargic
horse of the state)....


When a student feels hopeless and helpless, THEN, Socrates uses
myth, to give them the illusion that they know something.

This illusion is sort of like the positive function of Maya in Hinduism,
and, this is sort of like the Noble Lie of the Republic.

In some ways,.... doing papers for people can be like the Noble Lie....
IF it ultimately gives them hope, and makes them self-sufficient

So, Socrates, and his dialectic method, was like a piano tuner....
tightening and loosening strings, until they "sound" just right...
which was the great insight of Siddhartha Gautama, leading him to
"the middle way"...

Siddhartha was on a river bank, on the verge of death from extreme
asceticism and fasting. Suddenly a boat floated by, with a master musician instructing his young apprentice on how to string a musical instrument. Siddhartha eavesdropped, and heard "Do not make the string too tight, or it will break. Neither make it too loose and slack, or it shall not sound."

Siddhartha suddenly realized "the middle way."

Sometimes, it is ok to eavesdrop.

By refutation, Socrates numbs those who presume to know...
by myth, Socrates enlivens those dead in dispair, who have lost hope
of learning

Education is a constant process of getting "tune ups" to stay in
harmony, on the middle way of the straight and narrow

Now, all this fits in with Plato's metaphor of Dialectic as a weavers
loom, with warp, woof, and a shuttle with runs back and forth


Which also fits in with the Jewish Talmudic notion of "pilpul", of
wisdom as the product of constant conjoining and separation

http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/the-tree-of-life-kuntres-etz-hachayim/30.htm

"the goal is the dialectic give and take and the pilpul, to raise a
question and offer a resolution"


(pilpul:. a dialectic method of Talmudic study, consisting of. examining
all of the arguments pro and con )

I am currently helping a student in Bahrain to answer the question of
spiritual development in Silas Marner.

http://toosmallforsupernova.org/page050.htm

Looking at Silas Marner, the first pages stress his LOOM, and stress
that he seems suspicious to others, and , perhaps even seems
demonic. Science and philosophy appear demonic to primitive
Christianity.


Those same first pages of Silas Marner also mention the winnowing
fan and the threshing floor.

The loom and weaving is philosophy, dialectic, connoting the
philosophers on the hill of Mars, while the winnowing fan and the
threshing floor is the Christian image of the New Testament.


George Eliot, prior to writing Silas Marner, had translated Feurbach, a theologian with very Humanist leanings... and she had rejected traditional Christianity

Stop and think. The great opposition between Philosophy and Faith
symbolized by the loom, weaving, for dialect (not to mention
dialectical materialism) vs. the Christian images of winnowing fan,
threshing floor, separating the goats from the lambs, the wheat from
the chaff, wheat from the tares. These are powerful images and
symbols.

The manufacturing and synthesis of science and philosophy is transformational and very different from the winnowing and harvesting of a final judgment.

amuse
06-26-2005, 11:51 PM
ok, gotcha. but will you read them with the kids so you all can discuss them? (just curious.)
-az

baddad
06-27-2005, 02:11 AM
I.....find it hard to believe the tag line and purpose of this thread, especially the notion that this quiz is posted here by a teacher of anything. the approach seems a little ........................fishy..................... .....no?

Sitaram
06-27-2005, 05:06 AM
Let us try to imagine some situation where a summer teacher really would be justified in feeling angry.

Perhaps this "teacher" has volunteered for some tough inner city situation,... a summer school for gang members who flunked out.... but... the program is mismanaged by someone who is a controlling martinet, and they blindly dictates what is to be done in the course, but with unreasonable expectations, and they hand out all these elaborate questions, but with no answer guide... and meanwhile our noble teacher is also working full time at something else, I KNOW! He runs a needle exchange program and counselling center for addicts.... so the teacher really is angry at the administration, for not supplying the answers...

Now, the bad thing is that one of the gang members in summer school, this tough guy, named "Rooster" with a scar on his face, has this girlfriend who is from a wealthy family, but she has low self esteem, and is attracted to low-life types. But she is always surfing the net, and in fact, she is a member of this very literary forum, and she has an icon with fluffy angels, or perhaps a tinkerbell, and she stumbles upon this very thread, and prints out all the answers, and give them to Rooster, who laughs an evil laugh, cruelly abuses her (which secretly thrills her) and then give out all the answer to the rest of the gang members. (this story has definite potential...)

We can call our story "Tale of Two City Blocks", because the night school, and the councelling center and Rooster's gang hangout turf, are all in the same two city blocks of a dangerous ghetto neighborhood...

The administrative head of the summer program is "Mr. Thrashman", but behind his back, the kids call him "Trashman". I thought of the name from Thrasymachus in Plato's republic, who defines good as doing evil to ones enemies.

The angry summer school teacher's name is Cyrl. St. Cyril brought religion and the Cyrilic alphabet (and literacy) to the Slavs circa 900 a.d.

Cyril is the youngest son of a family of Russian immigrants. He wanted to enter an Orthodox seminary, and become a married priest, and have a parish, and save peoples souls. But things happened and he could not follow through on that dream.

PeterL
06-27-2005, 05:01 PM
Here's a link to just that chapter.
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=DicTale.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=11&division=div2

It appears that those questions are completely inappropriate for book 2 chapter 5. Are you trying to flunk everyone?

angryteacher
06-29-2005, 07:18 PM
Look everyone, we have a comedian on our hands. Apparentley PeterL makes jokes. I might add that he is pretty funny. I mean he made a funny that made me smile, how silly is he?! Well Peter here is what I think about your hilarious, jokes. I think you should seriously consider finding something else to do with your time, besides making smartass comments to me...I dont care about these kids and, yes they will all fail. I am such a great teacher. He he.

PeterL
06-29-2005, 07:24 PM
You might consider a career where you don't deal with other people.

Scheherazade
06-29-2005, 07:49 PM
I will now close this thread as it does not serve its purpose anymore.