Fahrenheit 451

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Why is everyone freaking about people spamming the forum. XML has only been talking about the key themes of Fahrenheit 451 and the way they correlate to modern society. If XML wants to write a 5 page essay on censorship, let him. People all over the world might come across his essay, and be intrigued to read the wonderful novel. XML is thinking deep within the pores Faber mentioned in the novel, and I am interested in his thoughts. So just Live and Let Live.. All the people that are trying to stop XML from sharing his thoughts are just as bad as the firemen in the book. SHAME ON YOU. BAM.
No one is, or has, tried to stop XML from sharing his thoughts. And, by that same token, we are allowed to share OUR thoughts on his, or anyone else's thoughts. It's those thoughts that you and XML want to be censoring. So, "bam."

I just want to know where you guys are from. XML just said you were students. From where? What grade?
Why won't you answer these questions?

[Venerable Bede]

Why is everyone freaking about people spamming the forum. XML has only been talking about the key themes of Fahrenheit 451 and the way they correlate to modern society. If XML wants to write a 5 page essay on censorship, let him. People all over the world might come across his essay, and be intrigued to read the wonderful novel. XML is thinking deep within the pores Faber mentioned in the novel, and I am interested in his thoughts. So just Live and Let Live.. All the people that are trying to stop XML from sharing his thoughts are just as bad as the firemen in the book. SHAME ON YOU. BAM.

I love how these people (or more likely one person masquerading as several) continually twist what we say and then give us useless rants on censorship. No one is trying to stop XML from posting his thoughts. If each thought is given its own thread then there is a problem.

And I agree with Mutatis-Mutandi. Until you explain yourselves and stop evading the question, don't give us anymore censorship rants. Right now you are deserving of being titled "spammers and trolls."

[illuminate]

But the whole point of online-literature is to discuss books and to listen to other people's views about a book.. XML and I are doing just that. We are discussing a great book to find a greater meaning to the themes and symbols Ray Bradbury tried to convey. Wikipedia states that, "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community." According to this definition, we are not trolls seeing to the fact that this thread is only about Fahrenheit 451, and all our posts have been about Fahrenheit 451.
Good day sir...

[Desolation]

I think that you guys are giving Ray Bradbury WAAAAAAAY too much credit. Fahrenheit 451 really wasn't all that good. Nor was it about censorship, as per the words of the writer himself.

Also, by telling us (as Mutandi rightfully pointed out) that we can't ridicule your thoughts or complain about all the spam, you are...wait for it...CENSORING US! Freedom of speech works both ways. You can express whatever thoughts you want, and I can respond to your thoughts however I want.

[Venerable Bede]

Anyway, I'm getting tired of going around in circles. There's really not much left to fight about. They only have this thread to post in, and they seem to be limiting themselves to just that, so I'm content like I said earlier before what I said was misconstrued. So, yeah, post to your heart's content about Fahrenheit 451 in this thread :).

And please don't force me to rejoin this debate by complaining that this post is censorship, propaganda, fascism or whatever.

[XML]

I think that you guys are giving Ray Bradbury WAAAAAAAY too much credit. Fahrenheit 451 really wasn't all that good. Nor was it about censorship, as per the words of the writer himself.

Also, by telling us (as Mutandi rightfully pointed out) that we can't ridicule your thoughts or complain about all the spam, you are...wait for it...CENSORING US! Freedom of speech works both ways. You can express whatever thoughts you want, and I can respond to your thoughts however I want.

Are we limiting your freedom of expression? All we are saying is that we have the right to post about F451 without being called "trolls or spammers." We are expressing our opinions and asking questions and also answering questions about various aspects of the book.

And as for the censorship part, yes the novel does not directly target at the effects of censorship； on the contrary, it focuses on the actions and inactions of the society to stop technological advances, which results in the self-censoring of the population. And "as per the writer himself," "there is more than one way to burn a book." This burning of book obviously points at the limitation and restriction of the society in thinking freely and obtaining information， which is very much an accepted definition of censorship.

You would have to read and understand this book before you could make arguments regarding its contents. Thus, this is the exact reason why we are posting on this thread. We are making full use of available resources in order to better understand and analyze this book filled with hidden treasures waiting to be discussed. And you are calling us "trolls and spammers." WHAT CENSORSHIP!

[Mr.lucifer]

Are we limiting your freedom of expression? All we are saying is that we have the right to post about F451 without being called "trolls or spammers." We are expressing our opinions and asking questions and also answering questions about various aspects of the book.

And as for the censorship part, yes the novel does not directly target at the effects of censorship； on the contrary, it focuses on the actions and inactions of the society to stop technological advances, which results in the self-censoring of the population. And "as per the writer himself," "there is more than one way to burn a book." This burning of book obviously points at the limitation and restriction of the society in thinking freely and obtaining information， which is very much an accepted definition of censorship.

You would have to read and understand this book before you could make arguments regarding its contents. Thus, this is the exact reason why we are posting on this thread. We are making full use of available resources in order to better understand and analyze this book filled with hidden treasures waiting to be discussed. And you are calling us "trolls and spammers." WHAT CENSORSHIP!

You are such a fascist.

[illuminate]

what's wrong with fascism?:)

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[FrancoisG]

I have read this book and I like it very much. I think this book is really good. I like the progress of the story, the characters, the helpless of this hunted persons who risk their lives to keep and protect their books.

Now, I am reading "Martian Chronicles" and I think it is amazing, astonishing.

Bradbury is a great novelist. Not surprising it is so famous.

Really, if you have not read Bradbury, do not waste more time, reading Bradbury is a wonderful experience !