Banned ? This is a test...

[tailor STATELY]

Received a ban notice for copying my last post in case it blew up. I know it wasn't for using an ad blocker because I still get ads for blocking ads (lol).

So, anyway this is a test... logging out didn't help and using a different browser didn't help... maybe an admin can help :)

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

Still banned from posting poetry (sigh)

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[Danik 2016]

Oh, my. I remember when I was banned, it was when I posted something late in the night. During the day, no problem.
If you want, try to send me the poem(s) through PM with indication in which thread you want them posted and we will try if that works.

[tailor STATELY]

Thank you for the offer :)

Even tried posting in a new thread, during daylight hours, today... no joy :(

When I get around to it, there must be one here somewhere, I'll sheepishly ask a mod what transgression I made and ask forgiveness and serve my time... only a backlog of 3-poems from the Thursdays at Two poetry group. My worst fear is that our "Lol" poetry challenge will be blocked for me too... guess I'll find out about that when I come up with a poem :)

Praying all is well,

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[Danik 2016]

Sent you a PN, tailor.

[Logos]

You're not "banned". Well, by me anyway and I'm the only Mod left :nod:

I can't see what you're seeing.
I can spend a lot of time guessing as to what is going on for you but realistically I have no idea.
I don't pretend to know all things technical re: internet
It is possibly a random / strange glitch, a conflict between outdated vBulletin forum software and current up to date browser Ad Blocking software. It could perhaps have something to do with the forum servers.

I myself also sometimes get strange random glitchy things happening when I'm doing Mod things here in the forums and or behind-the-scenes. I have no hard and fast solutions or answers to what is happening to you, sorry!

In any case, most of the time these glitches I experience resolve themselves after a period of a few days or so!

Fingers crossed this stops happening for you!
cheers,
/Logos




Received a ban notice for copying my last post in case it blew up. I know it wasn't for using an ad blocker because I still get ads for blocking ads (lol).

So, anyway this is a test... logging out didn't help and using a different browser didn't help... maybe an admin can help :)

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[Logos]

I can also post something for you Tailor if you like, and I sent you a private message, I hope you got it!

[Sancho]

Hooligan! Rabble-Rouser! Purveyor of Pernicious Poems! The Fuzz finally caught up with ya, eh Tailor?

[tailor STATELY]

Thank you Logos... got your PM and replied and also found these posts :)

Just got back from a day away and will try to post to the Nonsense poem thread once more and then jump back here (which seems to be working for me so far) if it doesn't work.

re: Sancho - Yeah, my poetry and poetry-type stuff isn't exactly mainstream, lol.

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

I tried to post my poems here in this thread and received the same notice... maybe the content ??? of seemingly innocuous poems and two links ??? Maybe if I imbed the post with some markup tricks ??? Experimenting... no luck... will not post here either using "quote" or "code".

Hmmm... will continue to tinker.

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

Nothing seems to work, but I will continue to tinker...

BTB - here's the message I receive:


You Are Banned
You have been banned from our site for one of two reasons:

You use an offline browser to download our site in mass.
You use an ad blocking program.
We do not allow offline browsers on our site. People use them to download the entire site which really puts a load on our server. Additionally they can be used to effectively steal all the work we put into placing these works online. If you're interesting in buying PDF files of the works on this site please visit http://www.online-literature.com/cd/

We do not allow ad blocking programs for obvious reasons. Nothing in life is free, you pay for your access to our site by viewing the advertisements, if you choose not to view the advertisements then you're stealing from us. You will need to deactivate your ad blocking software in order to access this site.
Your IP address is: (redacted)

[tailor STATELY]

Ok... chopping up my original post and not including links...

legend of the firebird

no one knows from whence it
came for ancient is the lore of
when the firebird first appeared
scouring the swampland and
forests with flame - a relentless
incandescence slaughtering
and scattering what remained
of tribes and families that day

from the perspective of the
firebird it was of necessity -
a need to make a nest with
which to brood her eggs in peace
- soon hatchlings kept her busy
in flight over great distances
to feed her innocent little ones

retribution, an invention of man,
soon followed when a lone warrior
returned to his ancestral grounds,
steeling his courage he butchered
the nestlings - using their remains
to conceal himself as he sought to
destroy their mother upon its return

tears, amber-red, like an angry
sun filtered through the eyes of the
firebird in flight when the deceit was
laid bare below her - and with the
realization of the futility of striving
with man she abandoned her nest
and became lost once more to legend

red are the waters that remain
of the watershed whence these
tidings came to pass - a testament
to the tenacity of dour men, or per-
haps the blood of innocents -+-*+

6/6/2024 r. et finis

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

Part 2...

The next was from our Word Can from 5/16/2024 (with revisions):

Word Can: grasp, access, experiment, confetti, fling, eggshell


Youth: a series of experimental offenses


Guess I was in another experimental phase of my teenage years,

thus having absconded with some of the neighbor lady’s eggs

after accessing her coop by hopping a backyard fence

I found myself grasping an imagined Fabergé egg - when in truth

just a bespeckled egg mostly bereft of its dregs

hence I flung it into into the air and shouldered my dad's 30-06 with uncovered ears

... then BOOM! ha! bet you could of heard it all the way in Duluth!

it littered the yard and my hair with eggshell confetti - and praise be - it wasn't my last youthful offense

5/16/2024 r. 6/6/2024

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

Part 3...

My Word Can poem from 6/6/2024: salty, countdown, wings, quiet, pane, vague, total, asleep



salty mouthed “too”

an existence within a cage
for a salty mouthed cockatoo is droll
for one whose wings are clipped

thus flight is impossible which is perhaps best
for a window pane is a bird’s bane -
no reason to be vague about it

best to be quiet while the “too” is asleep
for when the dog hears the mailman’s rattle
the fan is hit without a countdown

6/6/2024

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

The link(s) for Part 1... Note: the first link deleted after the "banned notice to see if link #2 works:

ref. article: https://descendantsofthegreatdismal.com/2020/03/23/the-firebird-legend/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20legend%2C%20an,lea ving%20the%20swamp%20in%20peace.

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor
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[tailor STATELY]

So............ looks like first link ( to Part 1 ) was flagged as persona non grata by the "banned" flag... it was a link to a pix of a Firebird flying over a pond near the woods for the ekphrastic poem I wrote... with these edits in mind I'll try to repost in the Nonsensical poem thread and see how it goes.

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[tailor STATELY]

No joy there nor here with the 3-poems grouped together... most puzzling... and I love puzzles :)

As they are posted here (as in somewhere) in some form, I'll leave these poems as is and move on :)

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[Danik 2016]

Nothing seems to work, but I will continue to tinker...

BTB - here's the message I receive:

There seems to be a slight confusion on the part of the AS between adding content and stealing content. As for the adblock I also have one but the add appear all the same.

[Danik 2016]

Ok... chopping up my original post and not including links...

legend of the firebird

no one knows from whence it
came for ancient is the lore of
when the firebird first appeared
scouring the swampland and
forests with flame - a relentless
incandescence slaughtering
and scattering what remained
of tribes and families that day

from the perspective of the
firebird it was of necessity -
a need to make a nest with
which to brood her eggs in peace
- soon hatchlings kept her busy
in flight over great distances
to feed her innocent little ones

retribution, an invention of man,
soon followed when a lone warrior
returned to his ancestral grounds,
steeling his courage he butchered
the nestlings - using their remains
to conceal himself as he sought to
destroy their mother upon its return

tears, amber-red, like an angry
sun filtered through the eyes of the
firebird in flight when the deceit was
laid bare below her - and with the
realization of the futility of striving
with man she abandoned her nest
and became lost once more to legend

red are the waters that remain
of the watershed whence these
tidings came to pass - a testament
to the tenacity of dour men, or per-
haps the blood of innocents -+-*+

6/6/2024 r. et finis

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

Enjoyed the poem about this sad legend!

[Danik 2016]

Part 2...

The next was from our Word Can from 5/16/2024 (with revisions):

Word Can: grasp, access, experiment, confetti, fling, eggshell


Youth: a series of experimental offenses


Guess I was in another experimental phase of my teenage years,

thus having absconded with some of the neighbor lady’s eggs

after accessing her coop by hopping a backyard fence

I found myself grasping an imagined Fabergé egg - when in truth

just a bespeckled egg mostly bereft of its dregs

hence I flung it into into the air and shouldered my dad's 30-06 with uncovered ears

... then BOOM! ha! bet you could of heard it all the way in Duluth!

it littered the yard and my hair with eggshell confetti - and praise be - it wasn't my last youthful offense

5/16/2024 r. 6/6/2024

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor


Lol!Enjoyed!

[Danik 2016]

Part 3...

My Word Can poem from 6/6/2024: salty, countdown, wings, quiet, pane, vague, total, asleep



salty mouthed “too”

an existence within a cage
for a salty mouthed cockatoo is droll
for one whose wings are clipped

thus flight is impossible which is perhaps best
for a window pane is a bird’s bane -
no reason to be vague about it

best to be quiet while the “too” is asleep
for when the dog hears the mailman’s rattle
the fan is hit without a countdown

6/6/2024

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor


Poor cockatoo!

[Sancho]

As a fellow purveyor of pernicious poems, or at least of lascivious limericks, It appears I also have been banned.

[Sancho]

Well hey, that one worked. I was getting the same message you got, Tailor.

[tailor STATELY]

It's so random... at least there is a way out if one is persistent :)

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[Sancho]

Still banned:

You Are Banned

You have been banned from our site for one of two reasons:

You use an offline browser to download our site in mass.
You use an ad blocking program.
We do not allow offline browsers on our site. People use them to download the entire site which really puts a load on our server. Additionally they can be used to effectively steal all the work we put into placing these works online. If you're interesting in buying PDF files of the works on this site please visit http://www.online-literature.com/cd/

We do not allow ad blocking programs for obvious reasons. Nothing in life is free, you pay for your access to our site by viewing the advertisements, if you choose not to view the advertisements then you're stealing from us. You will need to deactivate your ad blocking software in order to access this site.

[Sancho]

Donno, man.
I seem to be able to post on this thread OK

[hellsapoppin]

As a fellow purveyor of pernicious poems, or at least of lascivious limericks, It appears I also have been banned.



Is this standard the reason why we see so little discussion of Whitman on this site?


I read Leave of Grass years ago and misunderstood it. Am re-reading and now understanding it. Was hoping to find a discussion of the book here but, I guess, nobody was interested.

[Danik 2016]

I think log in difficulties and spam are the reason of the disappearances of several users. But the banned notice mustn't be taken serious. It is probably the result of a passing instability of the site. Taylor, Sancho and myself sometimes receive banning notices.
I like Whitmann and never discussed his poetry. However my sight at present is not so good, so I can neither read nor write very long posts.

[tailor STATELY]

True... one must learn and accept the foibles as they crop up, and that is prolly more than most are willing to tolerate.

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor

[hellsapoppin]

I like Whitmann and never discussed his poetry. However my sight at present is not so good, so I can neither read nor write very long posts.




In case you can remember or if someone else would like to chime in, I have a question: there are repeated references to open display of affection, hand holding, kissing, fondling, and amorous attachments throughout many of the poems. All done out on the streets, a tavern, the woods. None challenged by law enforcement or by disaffected people of the Victorian and prudish society of that time. I wonder ~ were these mere fantasies of the poet or, were they reports of actually open displays of affection? People today are still physically attacked for engaging in such open displays of affection - I thought no one would dare challenge of the conventions of that society without risking considerable retribution from an outraged and prejudiced society.

So, were those real displays or mere fantasies of the poet?

[hellsapoppin]

perhaps a sample would be in order:


... two simple men I saw to-day on the pier
... in the midst of the crowd, parting the parting of dear friends,
The one to remain hung on the other's neck and passionately kiss'd him,
While the one to depart tightly prest the one to remain in his arms.



from, What Think You I take Pen In Hand?



There are so many other examples of open display of same sex affection. In this modern society most of us wouldn't give any of it the merest thought. But back then? It would seem such open affection would be met with harshly. Thus, to me it would seem that this is fantasy, not actuality. What do you say?

[Danik 2016]

Popplns,

It seems that Walt Whitman was very openly gay during his life and that lead to many problems specially after he published his poem collection Leaves of Grass. I'm attaching the link to his Wikipedia page so that you can see for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Whitman
I'm not sure if the so very British designation "Victorian" can be applied to an American poet.

[hellsapoppin]

Popplns,

It seems that Walt Whitman was very openly gay during his life and that lead to many problems specially after he published his poem collection Leaves of Grass. I'm attaching the link to his Wikipedia page so that you can see for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Whitman
I'm not sure if the so very British designation "Victorian" can be applied to an American poet.




I had seen that link before but it does not actually indicate whether the scenes described in the poetry were openly conducted. Things such as open affection in taverns or by the docks, or on the streets. Yes it does acknowledge that he had what are purported to be lovers but there are no eye witness accounts listed of these other activities.

As for whether the term Victorian is apropos for the USA in that era, historians have used the term (or more correctly, Victorian America):

https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=43&q=was+victorian+era+influential+in+USA%3F&cvid=6d3c51484c684c26b2add52dda18363b&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMg YIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIGCAQQABhAMgYIBRAAGEAyBggGEAAY QDIGCAcQABhAMgcICBDrBxhA0gEHNzAzajBqMagCALACAA&FORM=ANNTA1&DAF1=1&PC=HCTS

[Danik 2016]

Thanks for the informative links, Poppins. So there is indeed an American Victorianism.

What happens with Whitman. Older bios tend to avoid the theme of homosexualily when writing about Whitman 's life. Something similar happened with Garcia Lorca, the great Spanish poet. But I found this
by AI, that can't be accused of Victorianism.