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    Question A thought on Evolution

    I was thinking about the Adam and Eve story and thought of something, after Adam and Eve were kicked out of heaven (eden) other tribes were also present in the world. What if these people not from heaven were people created by the devil? Now this could explain how people have a balance of good and evil in them and how people can commit autrocities on in our modern times. Now suppose because of time that the tribes of good and evil crossbred and created the grey societies of today? Now how does evolution tie into this? Well the devil was not as powerfull as God so he would not be able to create a person directly but could cause the indirect creation of a person through evolution .

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    Sorry to say, but I think that's silly..

    I believe that all humans were created by God only. I don't really get your point with other tribes. I thought all men were Adam's and Eve's descendants ? :confuse:. The nature of good and evil are there in all humans since they ate the forbidden fruit. There's no such thing as seperation between good-natured man and evil-natured man. What I know so far is that evolution thing doesn't have anything to do with the story written in Genesis. It's purely about science stuffs.

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    My thoughts on evolution and the book of genisis are as follows. Genisis is not a literal text, it cannot be due to irrefutable evidence against it (which I will list many good websites with enough evidence against a literal genisis it is not even funny).

    Evolution is something that does occur and that humans have evolved from a common anscestor. I am not saying that genisis is getting it figuritively right. However I am not naive enough to believe genisis as a literal text. There is no supporting scientific evidence for it being literal, and if fact there is a lot of scientific evidence that proves literal translations wrong.

    Some good websites to check out on evolution and the creationism-evolution debates

    http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoEvidence.html
    http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoDefinit...tiondefinition
    http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoMutations.html#mutations http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/5/2509
    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html

    try browsing around on them, they have a lot of information.

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    I think Adam and Eve were the first couple God invented, but God didn't stop with them. After He created Adam and Eve, He went on creating other people, which is how people in the world don't all look the same.

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    if you're dumb enough not to believe in evolution, I can see why talking snakes and trees might scare you.

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    thank god for creating drugs, though.

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    I can't believe we're talking Garden of Eden here on this website in the 21st century. I mean, how surreal is that? This is a literature website. People here should know about analogies and metaphors. They should be able to spot one from a mile away. Maybe we can discuss the tooth fairy, or the bogeyman next...

    There seems to be a distinct lack of dinosaurs in the Bible. Can't think why...
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    my grandma wouldn't take me to see jurassic park when I was little because 'dinosaurs never existed'.

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    Come to think of it, one thing has always bothered me about the immaculate conception: did Mary give her consent? Cos if not, well you know what that means don't you?.....
    Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain

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    The teaching of the church, theoretically astute, is a lie in practice and a compound of vulgar superstitions and sorcery - Leo Tolstoy

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    but back to evolution . . .

    I always thought it was interesting that, in genesis, there is nothing to suggest that there was only one god.

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    the theory now is that mary was raped by a roman guard and she claimed her son was conceived through divine intervention <giggle> so she wouldn't be stoned to death.

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    Yeah. I think a lot of biblical scholars suggest several Gods of the OT. I think they are variously translated as Lord, Jehovah, Yahweh, God etc.
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    apparently someone decided that the only way to resolve the contradiction was to bombard three identities into one: a god who was simultaneously the father, son and the holy ghost.

    100% bulls.hit. I mean that, it's not even in the bible.

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    <the theory now is that mary was raped by a roman guard and she claimed her son was conceived through divine intervention <giggle> so she wouldn't be stoned to death.>

    He always did have a bit of a soft spot for the Romans. Now if he had just listened to Judas who he betrayed....
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    Originally posted by star blue
    apparently someone decided that the only way to resolve the contradiction was to bombard three identities into one: a god who was simultaneously the father, son and the holy ghost.
    Resolve the contradiction? Nobody solved the contradiction, that's part of the point. Anyway, does it upset you that much that people believe in god (THE god, Allah, Zeus, Odin, or any other)?
    Ningún hombre llega a ser lo que es por lo que escribe, sino por lo que lee.
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