I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously.
Erwin Schroedinger
the man who gave us one of, if not the most, important equation in all of science... It is interesting that most physicists, at least well known physicists are theists, or deists, or agnostics... I have said science requires faith many times in this part of the forum, and I believe this... but science does do as said above in helping us live and better understand the universe we live in...
but that does not mean it has to run counter to the idea of god or some form of prime mover/ original creator... most physicists would say that even theories such as the big bang theory and the ripples discovered in 1992 show more evidence for the existence of a creator god than against the existence... just in the fact that something had to get the ball rolling...
for as Frederick Burnham said just after the discovery of the "ripples"
These findings, now available, make the idea that God created the universe a more respectable hypothesis today than at any time in the last 100 years
in any case I just find the link between so many famous and well known physicists and belief in some kind of god/creator to be quite interesting.. here is Dr. Henry Schaefer, a renowned chemist, on atheism and science...
It is relatively unusual that a physical scientist is truly an atheist. Why is this true? Some point to the anthropic constraints, the remarkable fine tuning of the universe. For example, Freeman Dyson, a Princeton faculty member, has said, "Nature has been kinder to us that we had any right to expect." Martin Rees, one of Hawking's colleagues at Cambridge, notes the same facts. Rees recently stated "The possibility of life as we know it depends on the values of a few basic, physical constants and is in some respects remarkably sensitive to their numerical values. Nature does exhibit remarkable coincidences." Science writer extraordinaire Paul Davies adds "There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all. . . It seems as though somebody has fine tuned nature's numbers to make the Universe. . . The impression of design is overwhelming." Some scientists express surprise at what they view as so many "accidental occurrences." However, that astonishment quickly disappears when one sees purpose instead of arbitrariness in the laws of nature.
Against powerful logic, some atheists continue to claim, irrespective of the anthropic constraints, that the universe and human life were created by chance. The main argument seems to be "Since we human beings are here, it must have happened in a purely reductionist manner." This argument strikes me a bit like the apocryphal response of a person waking up in the morning to find an elephant in his or her bedroom. The individual in question concludes that this is no surprise, since the probability of the elephant being in the bedroom is a perfect 100%. Obviously this is a philosophical rather than scientific response to the situation.
interesting, isn't it... so the arguments atheists use against the existence of god, well, for the most part aren't even supported by the people who came up with the theories that allow these arguments to be made.. which coincidentally as said fall into the realm of philosophy and are pretty much absurd and illogical.. there is far and away more evidence for intelligent design in the universe than the opposite.. this is readily apparent in the sheer impossibility of our existence.. the infinitesimal chance that we would exist obviously and logically points to some kind of creator god and some kind of intelligent design, as do scientific theories like the big bang theory...
anyways here is a link to a lecture by Dr Schaefer, take a look, you may find it enlightening...
http://www.origins.org/articles/scha...angandgod.html
I would be interested in any rational discussion on this... if anyone else is interested post away... science and god, link texts, lectures, essays, your own thoughts and ideas.. but please don't come in here with blanket statements with no argument for them.. at least try to explain and lay out your thoughts and ideas and statements... provide us with reasons for what you think, not just I think this because I do... that is not constructive nor enlightening at all... let's have a real discussion here in the religious section...