Classic Rock

[Paulclem]

Some Rush:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tq-UsaRchI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKBIBJj-4M

[Sancho]

Some more Southern rock from the Allman Brothers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7A2acBVENA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TVTNl2C2iw

Those guys still get a lot of airtime around here, so much so that I’ve probably heard their standards too many times. But If I had to name a favorite, I’d have to say it’s Mountain Jam on the Eat a Peach album. It hasn’t been overplayed on the radio because it’s too long, a half-hour or so. It was recorded live at the Fillmore East in New York in 1971. During the last half of the jam, after a long drum solo by Butch Truck and then a bass solo by Berry Oakley, Duane really hits his groove. He was killed in a motorcycle accident not long after Fillmore shows.

The Allman Brothers were one of the bands that helped save the Fabulous Fox Theater in Atlanta – in my humble opinion, one of the best music venues in town (for when you want to sit down, anyway) so, my thanks to those guys for that.

Mountain Jam (after the drum and bass solos) http://youtu.be/P8oZAeL084Q

[Paulclem]

Those guys still get a lot of airtime around here, so much so that I’ve probably heard their standards too many times. But If I had to name a favorite, I’d have to say it’s Mountain Jam on the Eat a Peach album. It hasn’t been overplayed on the radio because it’s too long, a half-hour or so. It was recorded live at the Fillmore East in New York in 1971. During the last half of the jam, after a long drum solo by Butch Truck and then a bass solo by Berry Oakley, Duane really hits his groove. He was killed in a motorcycle accident not long after Fillmore shows.

The Allman Brothers were one of the bands that helped save the Fabulous Fox Theater in Atlanta – in my humble opinion, one of the best music venues in town (for when you want to sit down, anyway) so, my thanks to those guys for that.

Mountain Jam (after the drum and bass solos) http://youtu.be/P8oZAeL084Q

Thanks Sancho. They don't get much play in the UK. A mate of mine introduced me to them in the 80s. He had Eat a Peach, but I don't recall hearing this one. I've liked them ever since. Mountain Jam doesn't disapppoint.

My mate felt an affinity with The Allman Brothers band as he had lost a brother as well.

[MarkBastable]

Thanks Sancho. They don't get much play in the UK. A mate of mine introduced me to them in the 80s. He had Eat a Peach, but I don't recall hearing this one. I've liked them ever since. Mountain Jam doesn't disapppoint.

My mate felt an affinity with The Allman Brothers band as he had lost a brother as well.

There's a documentary on Southern rock coming up on BBC4 soon - Friday, perhaps.

[Paulclem]

There's a documentary on Southern rock coming up on BBC4 soon - Friday, perhaps.

Cheers. I'll watch out for that.

[Sancho]

Glad you liked the track, Paul. I may try to find the BBC special on line somewhere, if for no other reason than for a nostalgic trip. I grew up with Southern Rock, and in the South, but I don’t think I was ever all that taken with either one. Still today, in certain parts of town, like around The Atlanta Motor Speedway, you can hear Bands like Skynyrd and Molly Hatchet being pumped out of Bubba-Trucks by huge subwoofers – makes me kinda nervous, if you want to know the truth.

The Allman brothers were a stand out, though, and not really even in the same category, in my opinion. They’re still around, by the way, as well as a couple of side projects like Gov’t Mule:

Soulshine: http://youtu.be/nf0BNlYY_RA

At any rate, I suppose with Southern Rock, as with British Rock, there was a lot of cross pollination. Speaking of which, I believe Eric Clapton and Duane Allman were close friends. (Duane played the slide-guitar part on Layla)

[Darcy88]

Tom Petty. He's one of the most under-rated musicians of all time. He should be mentioned along with Zeppelin and almost any other premiere rock act. For real, several of his albums are masterpieces of popular rock, song to song, the entire albums golden through and through.

The fact that Aerosmith is more popular than Tom Petty is a wonder and a crime to me, and I like a lot of Aerosmith.

[MarkBastable]

Tom Petty. He's one of the most under-rated musicians of all time.

I have tickets for a gig in the summer. I'm looking forward to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOOiZAHFvfc

[Sancho]

I’ve always been suspicious of ranking systems, particularly when applied to art. A rank-ordered list begs the question: says who? I suppose we could use a critic’s poll, but then those guys are a strange and jaded bunch (and many times they’re frustrated artists with an axe to grind). How about a peer ranking system? That sort of system has its own problems, and frankly I’ve seen musician’s polls that have come up with some of the weirdest lists of all. Well, okay then, how about a broadly disseminated popularity poll? Mob Rule, or The Tyranny of Democracy comes to mind. Or worse yet, for a piece of music to be widely popular probably means it’s lost its edge. Then we’re stuck with just a bunch of bland, silly love songs. Yuk.

Folks are always going to listen to what moves them – screw the polls – screw the critics (not literally of course) – one man’s cheese is another man’s spoiled milk. Whoa, is it my imagination or did this rant just take a culinary turn for the worse? But since I’m already there, I’ll go ahead and mention that I’ve thought the Litnet’s ranking polls are a bit silly. I’m talking about threads such as: Who is the best writer of all time? Or is so-and-so a better author than what’s-his-name? P-shaw . You can’t rank art. It’s not linear. It’d be like ranking colors: Blue is a better than Red because it’s deeper and makes me think more profoundly. Oh yeah, well, I think Red is better than Blue because it’s more intense and makes me feel things more passionately, and come to think of it, I’m starting to get a little angry that you think Blue is better than Red!

Ah well, one of my favorite Tom Petty songs is a holiday tune:

It’s Christmas Time Again - http://youtu.be/3CHopZgA93E

Long distance relatives
Haven’t seen ‘em in a long, long time
Yeah I kind of miss ‘em, I just don’t wanna kiss ‘em, no
It’s Christmas all over again

The youtube video cuts out one of the best parts - his wish list at the end:

Now let’s see, I want a new Rickenbacker Guitar, two Fender Bassmans, a Chuck Berry Songbook, a xylophone…

[LitNetIsGreat]

Hi, I'm going for a very sorrowful sounding piece by Black Sabbath, Solitude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuqVogBiYSU

It really doesn't sound like Ozzy much at all that one.

OK, something a little less depressing, more of an escapist piece from the Sabbath of the Dio era, Country Girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X10xr96RzQI

[MarkBastable]

Hi, I'm going for a very sorrowful sounding piece by Black Sabbath, Solitude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuqVogBiYSU

It really doesn't sound like Ozzy much at all that one.

OK, something a little less depressing, more of an escapist piece from the Sabbath of the Dio era, Country Girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X10xr96RzQI

I know this is sacrilege coming from a person of my age and background, but I've never understood the appeal of Sabbath or, come to that, Purple. They always struck me as leaden and narrow - lacking the emotional and musical range of Led Zeppelin, who were the third party in the Trinity that punters always used to ask Fluff Freeman for. ("Great show! More Purple, more Zep, more Sabs...")

God knows Zeppelin often hunched like hobbits under an unforgiving riff, but that was only one terrain in the expansive territory they inhabited.

Here's a one-hit chunk of classic rock that has always appealed to me, although the sounds on it are so much of their time that you can almost tell which Tuesday they mixed it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQcPB...f=list_related

[LitNetIsGreat]

I know this is sacrilege coming from a person of my age and background, but I've never understood the appeal of Sabbath or, come to that, Purple. They always struck me as leaden and narrow - lacking the emotional and musical range of Led Zeppelin, who were the third party in the Trinity that punters always used to ask Fluff Freeman for. ("Great show! More Purple, more Zep, more Sabs...")

God knows Zeppelin often hunched like hobbits under an unforgiving riff, but that was only one terrain in the expansive territory they inhabited.

In terms of technical playing ability yes Led Zeppelin 'win' hands down over them both. Sabbath are almost completely riff driven, unashamedly so, indeed that is one of their strengths. They haven't tried to be much more than that - Iommi, don't forget, comes minus half a finger on one hand which can't help that much with the fiddly bits. However, Sabbath were very good at what they did; dark style, doom laden, riff driven rock/early metal and had a lot of followers and were very influential of course. I don't think the degree of technical complexity in any music offers any value on whether it is 'better' than something more simplistic, necessarily. Personally, I much prefer Sabbath to both them; it's just another question of personal taste I suppose.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJO2gQ5E5Q
Just listening to that one at the moment.)

[Paulclem]

Glad you liked the track, Paul. I may try to find the BBC special on line somewhere, if for no other reason than for a nostalgic trip. I grew up with Southern Rock, and in the South, but I don’t think I was ever all that taken with either one. Still today, in certain parts of town, like around The Atlanta Motor Speedway, you can hear Bands like Skynyrd and Molly Hatchet being pumped out of Bubba-Trucks by huge subwoofers – makes me kinda nervous, if you want to know the truth.

The Allman brothers were a stand out, though, and not really even in the same category, in my opinion. They’re still around, by the way, as well as a couple of side projects like Gov’t Mule:

Soulshine: http://youtu.be/nf0BNlYY_RA

At any rate, I suppose with Southern Rock, as with British Rock, there was a lot of cross pollination. Speaking of which, I believe Eric Clapton and Duane Allman were close friends. (Duane played the slide-guitar part on Layla)

Just watched that ocumentary recommended by Mark. It was pretty good and put Southern Rock in perspective. The Allmans seem to have grown with the hippies and represented the liberal aspect of the South in the wake of the civil rights movement. That gives them more credibility as I didn't know so much about them.. I picked up a few good tracks I hadn't heard before too. I agree that they're not in the same category. BBC iplayer will have the doc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1nyDF9Wak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm3aTddl3eM&feature=fvst

This tribute to the murdered Martin Luther King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srj6DuCK-wM

And I remembered these tracks as really good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3RWqFlvJs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwbowi-8Yoo

[Sancho]

Hey-hey, thanks, Paul. I'll check it out. We get BBC in America here,but I'll probably need to watch it on the iplayer.

Cheers.

[MarkBastable]

I don't think the degree of technical complexity in any music offers any value on whether it is 'better' than something more simplistic, necessarily.

Oh, neither do I. I didn't mean that. I mean that Zeppelin had a deeper fund of ideas and a much more varied emotional and creative range.