What is next for the Party?

SABDFL · 11-13-2008, 10:40 PM

According to O'Brien, the Party is conducting experiments in the fields of neurology and psychiatry. They use torture and constant surveillance to keep Party members in line, but what techniques will they use next? What will be in Room 102?

I think that Party would implement a device that can implant thoughts into people's minds while they sleep, as sort of "dream telescreen." I love this book, because it possess not only a huge number of facets that can be analyzed and a meaning extracted from, but also encourages the reader to wonder what will happen next.

bazarov · 11-14-2008, 05:17 AM

While Room 101 works perfect, there is no need for Room 102. What are you afraid more than your greatest fear?

The Atheist · 11-14-2008, 02:11 PM

Yep, you can't kill 'em twice.

lukgem · 11-14-2008, 08:02 PM

i think the future of the party was technological advance for surveillance and military purposes and futher backward steps for the proles who's only goods for consuming were the floating fortresses they built and munitions which were to be blown up in war,tragic isnt it?

i think the idea of a room 102 is an interesting one and would consider serious thought and fine study of the black book of oligarchical collectivism to gain an insight into what it might be and do justice if possible to what orwell may have thought on the subject.

in the clergymans daughter he forwards the idea of freedom of expression and thought and may well have enjoyed others considering your question.

if only any of us could stand up to his intellect!

MulattoMan07 · 12-05-2008, 01:08 AM

just as bazarov said what could be more terrifying than your greatest fear.

bazarov · 12-05-2008, 05:02 AM

Bazarov is always right.

lukgem · 12-05-2008, 10:10 AM

Not always Bazarov, we have had much correspondence over the word oligarch, and in the end you admitted you may have got the meaning not exactly correct.

bazarov · 12-06-2008, 08:27 AM

It was not an attack of egoism, it was Orwellian allusion. Now I am sure our newbies haven't read Animal Farm

lukgem · 12-09-2008, 07:45 PM

Do you mean that in the middle of the night you sneaked up to the barn with a tin of paint and brush and changed the meaning of the word oligarch to suit the needs of the party, if so that was Bazarov the brilliant!

bazarov · 12-10-2008, 11:36 AM

I meant on post #6 in this thread, not on oligarchy. But still, I am glad you did your homework!

P.S. Finally decent signature.

Richier · 12-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Back to the original thread, the party/thought police has had the ability to implant thoughts in dreams since at least as early as 1977. "We shall meet in the place with no darkness" (sorry not exact quote).

There's no need for any change, as the system is perfect. For example, why would greater weapons be sought, when they can't be used. Eurasia & Eastasia can't be conquered as explained in "the book".

11-13-2008, 10:40 PM	#1
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11-14-2008, 05:17 AM	#2
bazarov Ataraxia Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In spleen Posts: 2,188	While Room 101 works perfect, there is no need for Room 102. What are you afraid more than your greatest fear? __________________ At thunder and tempest, At the world's coldheartedness, During times of heavy loss And when you're sad The greatest art on earth Is to seem uncomplicatedly gay. To get things clear, they have to firstly be very unclear. But if you get them too quickly, you probably got them wrong. If you need me urgent, send me a PM

11-14-2008, 08:02 PM	#4
lukgem Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: london Posts: 79	i think the future of the party was technological advance for surveillance and military purposes and futher backward steps for the proles who's only goods for consuming were the floating fortresses they built and munitions which were to be blown up in war,tragic isnt it? i think the idea of a room 102 is an interesting one and would consider serious thought and fine study of the black book of oligarchical collectivism to gain an insight into what it might be and do justice if possible to what orwell may have thought on the subject. in the clergymans daughter he forwards the idea of freedom of expression and thought and may well have enjoyed others considering your question. if only any of us could stand up to his intellect! Last edited by lukgem; 11-14-2008 at 08:12 PM.

12-06-2008, 08:27 AM	#8
bazarov Ataraxia Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In spleen Posts: 2,188	It was not an attack of egoism, it was Orwellian allusion. Now I am sure our newbies haven't read Animal Farm __________________ At thunder and tempest, At the world's coldheartedness, During times of heavy loss And when you're sad The greatest art on earth Is to seem uncomplicatedly gay. To get things clear, they have to firstly be very unclear. But if you get them too quickly, you probably got them wrong. If you need me urgent, send me a PM

12-09-2008, 07:45 PM	#9
lukgem Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: london Posts: 79	Do you mean that in the middle of the night you sneaked up to the barn with a tin of paint and brush and changed the meaning of the word oligarch to suit the needs of the party, if so that was Bazarov the brilliant! __________________ In Oceania 99.88% of people were happy. Orwell in his wisdom gave us the perfect system of government. Winston Smith was a paranoid schizophrenic, how could he not be happy in such a Utopian state?

11-14-2008, 02:11 PM	#3
The Atheist Orwellian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The George Orwell sub-forum Posts: 2,088	Yep, you can't kill 'em twice.

12-05-2008, 01:08 AM	#5
MulattoMan07 MulattoMan07 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mexico,NY Posts: 6	just as bazarov said what could be more terrifying than your greatest fear.

12-05-2008, 05:02 AM	#6
bazarov Ataraxia Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In spleen Posts: 2,188	Bazarov is always right. __________________ At thunder and tempest, At the world's coldheartedness, During times of heavy loss And when you're sad The greatest art on earth Is to seem uncomplicatedly gay. To get things clear, they have to firstly be very unclear. But if you get them too quickly, you probably got them wrong. If you need me urgent, send me a PM

12-05-2008, 10:10 AM	#7
lukgem Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: london Posts: 79	Not always Bazarov, we have had much correspondence over the word oligarch, and in the end you admitted you may have got the meaning not exactly correct.

12-10-2008, 11:36 AM	#10
bazarov Ataraxia Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In spleen Posts: 2,188	I meant on post #6 in this thread, not on oligarchy. But still, I am glad you did your homework! P.S. Finally decent signature. __________________ At thunder and tempest, At the world's coldheartedness, During times of heavy loss And when you're sad The greatest art on earth Is to seem uncomplicatedly gay. To get things clear, they have to firstly be very unclear. But if you get them too quickly, you probably got them wrong. If you need me urgent, send me a PM

12-17-2008, 04:01 PM	#11
Richier Idle Toerag Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midlands Posts: 43	Back to the original thread, the party/thought police has had the ability to implant thoughts in dreams since at least as early as 1977. "We shall meet in the place with no darkness" (sorry not exact quote). There's no need for any change, as the system is perfect. For example, why would greater weapons be sought, when they can't be used. Eurasia & Eastasia can't be conquered as explained in "the book".

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