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    Quote Originally Posted by transcender View Post
    Hi fellow travelers.

    I started researching the origins of religions and became disappointed with the results I found. Per se: That truthfulness and rationality in religions are only the truths that can be substantiated by science or those that cannot be proven to be incorrect. I believe that spiritual transcendence and spiritual interaction, if one believes this to be an actuality, could only be possible between the spiritual existence and the "spirit" of man. Supernatural acts performed by physical or spiritual beings in the physical universe are not capable of existing or transpiring.

    Your thoughts hereon are appreciated.
    These ideas have been debated already enough

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    I have to agree

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    Religion is a man made concept, while faith, belief and love are all natural personal abilities. Avoid Religion, avoid it at all costs. A Relationship is a much better term for ones spiritual beliefs.

    Religion just brings up to many questions and debates. To many people saying they are right and you are wrong, religion is a money pit, and has caused many wars and fights. To believe in Jesus Christ, or who ever you Believe in is your own personal choice, its a relationship, a love that becomes established. Its a personal thing, a personal feeling.
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    And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
    Shall be lifted - nevermore!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesireKnowledge View Post
    Religion is a man made concept, while faith, belief and love are all natural personal abilities. Avoid Religion, avoid it at all costs. A Relationship is a much better term for ones spiritual beliefs.

    Religion just brings up to many questions and debates. To many people saying they are right and you are wrong, religion is a money pit, and has caused many wars and fights. To believe in Jesus Christ, or who ever you Believe in is your own personal choice, its a relationship, a love that becomes established. Its a personal thing, a personal feeling.
    Rightly said and of course I subscribe to all these ideas whole heartedly without reservations

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    Cool connect with god

    you can unite with the god through the yoga learn more about yoga
    Yoga is a way of life, an art of righteous living or an integrated system for the benefit of the body, mind and inner spirit. This art originated, was perfected and practiced in India thousands of years ago. The references to yoga are available in 'Upanishads' and 'Puranas' composed by Indian Aryans in the later Vedic and post- Vedic period. The main credit for systematizing yoga goes to Patanjali who wrote 'Yoga Sutra', two thousand Years ago. He described the principles of the full eight fold yogic discipline. He composed the treatise in brief code words known as 'Sutras'. 'Yoga Sutra' is the most important basic text on Yoga. yoga retreat It is through this basic treatise that the essential message of yoga spread throughout the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transcender View Post
    Hi fellow travelers.

    I started researching the origins of religions and became disappointed with the results I found. Per se: That truthfulness and rationality in religions are only the truths that can be substantiated by science or those that cannot be proven to be incorrect. I believe that spiritual transcendence and spiritual interaction, if one believes this to be an actuality, could only be possible between the spiritual existence and the "spirit" of man. Supernatural acts performed by physical or spiritual beings in the physical universe are not capable of existing or transpiring.

    Your thoughts hereon are appreciated.
    Hmm...

    Perhaps there´s one conflict with this kind of thinking. Wait. I´ll write some kind of answer little bit later, ok?

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    I just posted a blog about this subject as surely the topic is one of the great fundamentals. I'm not going to cut and paste but the title is "Pedagogy, Physics and Religion." I hope at least to some it answers this question to some degree.
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    Ok.

    Milan kundera explains religious situation in his book L'Art du Roman, 1986. When people wanted to be God, God took a step behind from his place, where he had controlled life and given meaning to everything. Now; When there´s no final judge, who clearly defines what is wrong and right, anything can be glorified as a value. Also when God is missing, there was another thing; Solid truth was destroyed into smaller relative truths, and people divide them. (Now we have Catholics there, Islam here, etc.) Now modern novel and philosophy was born; They want to collect those missing parts again in one, full picture.

    It seems also, that we just can´t get rid of need of faith. I don´t want to be rude - no way. But if you have to know everything before believing, it makes life quite heavy, right? To me it does. I have been thinking these same things 18 years now, and this is the result. What i try to say, is that truth is not a house. It is a road. Road keeps going on. If you want to know everything, you will stuck - finally. This is the reason, why faith is needed. It is very clear, that world is full of different kind of religions. It makes very confusing feeling. We need security, but we just cant also say that; I want that this and that thing SHOULD be like this. If it is, i believe it, if it is not, i don´t. In restaurant you can eat the steak and leave the potatoes, but in life - marriage, frienship and even in beliefs it don´t work. This is just my point of view, and how i try to seek the truth.

    Note: This is just my way to think these things, and all feedback will be welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JommiL View Post
    Ok.

    Milan kundera explains religious situation in his book L'Art du Roman, 1986. When people wanted to be God, God took a step behind from his place, where he had controlled life and given meaning to everything. Now; When there´s no final judge, who clearly defines what is wrong and right, anything can be glorified as a value. Also when God is missing, there was another thing; Solid truth was destroyed into smaller relative truths, and people divide them. (Now we have Catholics there, Islam here, etc.) Now modern novel and philosophy was born; They want to collect those missing parts again in one, full picture.

    It seems also, that we just can´t get rid of need of faith. I don´t want to be rude - no way. But if you have to know everything before believing, it makes life quite heavy, right? To me it does. I have been thinking these same things 18 years now, and this is the result. What i try to say, is that truth is not a house. It is a road. Road keeps going on. If you want to know everything, you will stuck - finally. This is the reason, why faith is needed. It is very clear, that world is full of different kind of religions. It makes very confusing feeling. We need security, but we just cant also say that; I want that this and that thing SHOULD be like this. If it is, i believe it, if it is not, i don´t. In restaurant you can eat the steak and leave the potatoes, but in life - marriage, frienship and even in beliefs it don´t work. This is just my point of view, and how i try to seek the truth.

    Note: This is just my way to think these things, and all feedback will be welcome!
    In the Vedas there a word called Neti and Neti. This is with regard to truth. As you sad we cannot house truth. This is a road not a house. In the same way Neti means go on seeking and seeking, this is not the end.

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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