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    Does the ending of a book matter to you?

    I have read many great books; most of them aren't great with their endings. That does not degrade my overall impression of those books still. Maybe it is a little bit disappointing to discover that the closure of the book with which you have been completely absorbed over a particular span of time does not live up to your anticipation. Although such is the case with me, the disappointment is ephemeral usually. As time passes, I would reminisce on the great moments and ponder the depth of the book.

    A great ending, though, can lift my mind to a higher plane for a while (few minutes). Upon returning to my senses, I would ponder the ending, reread it, and
    take a walk outside, only to come back and read the ending again -word by word.

    The ending to The Great Gatsby is such an ending.

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    A goos ending is good, but too many novels do not have any ral ening, and that is annoying.

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    yes it matters because one tends to remember the end more then the beginning ,logically speaking because it is the last thing one reads.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
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    it fly

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    To me a book's ending is very important because it's the thing you work towards the entire time. If I really like a book and the ending is not satisfactory that ending will leave a mark on my final impression of the book. I'm not saying it makes or breaks a book but after a good book I like to close it off well. And, as cacian said, one tends to remember the end more than the beginning.
    So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past - The Great Gatsby

    Give every man thine ear, but few thy voice - Polonius (Hamlet)

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    I used to. Now, what happens at a conclusion is of little importance when compared its style, execution and compatibility to what preceded it.

    In contrast, for me Gatsby was insufferable--until its last wonderful line . I'll have to try his other works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Falcon. View Post

    A great ending, though, can lift my mind to a higher plane for a while (few minutes). Upon returning to my senses, I would ponder the ending, reread it, and
    take a walk outside, only to come back and read the ending again -word by word.
    Ha! I do the exact same thing. Word for word, I do the same thing hehe.

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    I find in great many readers a kind of fetishism with good endings. Simply good beginnings and endings do not make books fascinating and what really matter is the way in which the entire book gets you adrift. Read Anna Karenina for instance we have little to do with its endings. The entire novel has a beauty of its own and that is why it has always been a masterpiece and has both the great critical acclaim and readerships few other books have got.

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    There are of course any number of great books with absolutely brilliant endings:

    “The inferno of the living is not something that will be; if there is one, it is what is already here, the inferno where we live every day, that we form by being together. There are two ways to escape suffering it. The first is easy for many: accept the inferno and become such a part of it that you can no longer see it. The second is risky and demands constant vigilance and apprehension: seek and learn to recognize who and what, in the midst of inferno, are not inferno, then make them endure, give them space.”
    ― Italo Calvino, Invisible Cities

    …I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the
    Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the
    Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes.
    –James Joyce, Ulysses

    ‘It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.’
    –Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities

    I am thinking of aurochs and angels, the secret of durable pigments, prophetic
    sonnets, the refuge of art. And this is the only immortality you and I may share, my Lolita.
    –Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita

    L--d! said my mother, what is all this story about?——
    A **** and a BULL, said Yorick——And one of the best of its kind I ever
    heard.
    –Laurence Sterne, Tristram Shandy

    “All that is very well,” answered Candide, “but let us cultivate our garden.”
    –Voltaire, Candide

    From the sky a swift Angel descends, an Angel with a golden helmet and green
    spurs, a flaming sword in his hand, an Angel escaped from the Indo-Hispanic altars
    of opulent hunger, from need overcome by sleep, from the coupling of opposites:
    body and soul, wakefulness and death, living and sleeping, remembering and
    desiring, imagining: the happy boy who reaches the sad land carries all this on his
    lips, he bears the memory of death, white and extinguished, like the flame that went
    out in his mother’s belly: for a swift, marvelous instant, the boy being born knows
    that this light of memory, wisdom, and death was an Angel and that this other Angel
    who flies from the navel of heaven with the sword in his hand is the fraternal enemy
    of the first: he is the Baroque Angel, with a sword in his hand and quetzal wings,
    and a serpent doublet, and a golden helmet, the Angel strikes, strikes the lips of the
    boy being born on the beach: the burning and painful sword strikes his lips and the
    boy forgets, he forgets everything forgets everything,
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    –Carlos Fuentes, Christopher Unborn

    Just a few examples of brilliant closing lines. But certainly many of the finest novels are not so perfectly wrapped up. Some ramble a bit. Some are anti-climactic... the climax of the narrative having been reached far earlier. Whether the ending is one of the most memorable moments of a book or not, however, seems irrelevant to me. I do not read with the goal of coming to the ending and/or grasping the "meaning". I read for the pleasure of the experience of the book as a whole. A weak ending will no more mar a great book in my esteem than will a brilliant ending salvage a book that was a shipwreck up to that point.

    “What makes lovemaking and reading resemble each other most is that within both of them times and spaces open, different from measurable time and space.”
    - Italo Calvino

    As with lovemaking... as with our journey through life itself... it would seem to me that when it comes to reading, it is the experience as a whole that is to be savored... not merely the ending.
    Beware of the man with just one book. -Ovid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Falcon. View Post
    I have read many great books; most of them aren't great with their endings. That does not degrade my overall impression of those books still. Maybe it is a little bit disappointing to discover that the closure of the book with which you have been completely absorbed over a particular span of time does not live up to your anticipation. Although such is the case with me, the disappointment is ephemeral usually. As time passes, I would reminisce on the great moments and ponder the depth of the book.

    A great ending, though, can lift my mind to a higher plane for a while (few minutes). Upon returning to my senses, I would ponder the ending, reread it, and
    take a walk outside, only to come back and read the ending again -word by word.

    The ending to The Great Gatsby is such an ending.
    I also reacted the same way you did at the Great Gatsby ending, I went back and re-read, twice. It just made me sad. But I can't think of a better ending. Great novel endings are always disappointing to me- I'm always sad when the book ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    I find in great many readers a kind of fetishism with good endings. Simply good beginnings and endings do not make books fascinating and what really matter is the way in which the entire book gets you adrift. Read Anna Karenina for instance we have little to do with its endings. The entire novel has a beauty of its own and that is why it has always been a masterpiece and has both the great critical acclaim and readerships few other books have got.
    I agree with this. When I first read this thread my initial reaction was "of course the ending is important". But, after thinking about it for a while, I realized that I don't necessarily remember the last lines of my favorite books. Those books are my favorites because of the overall story, not just the first and last pages.`

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    The ending is very important to me. It's the point which would make me doubly like the the novel or doubly dislike it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    I agree with this. When I first read this thread my initial reaction was "of course the ending is important". But, after thinking about it for a while, I realized that I don't necessarily remember the last lines of my favorite books. Those books are my favorites because of the overall story, not just the first and last pages.`
    Yes, in fact one of the great books in which the ending does not matter is the brothers karamazov. The book is singularly great and the fabulous things we come across from beginning to end make me think our obsession with ending of the book becmes insignificant

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    not as much as beginning i think !

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    Yes, it does.

    And, StLukes, I'd add the final paragraph of Blood Meridian to that list.

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    I believe the ending needs to conclude a story appropriately. There is a certain cohesion that comes from a great ending, and without it, it really soils the entire work.

    On a side note, an excellent ending can make one respect an author more. If a novel ends brilliantly, even if the preceding to that ending was mediocre at best, there is a certain special charm to that and you end up looking at the author and the book in a much better light.

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