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    animal farm compared to Lord of the flies

    The writing of Golding's theme and the writing of the Orwell's theme has an resemblance in a interesting way. Golding's masterpiece, Lord of the flies, and Orwell's Animal Farm, both deal with the same theme of human and animal nature in a setting where traditional authority is absent. Lord of the Flies also reveals the symbolic difference of power in the two characters, Ralph and Jack, like the society of any country after the era of chaos 1900~1920.<br>Like the Lord of the Flies, Animal Farm also presents a situation in which the model for society has been flipped. Mr. Jones a farm owner of Manor Farm, is expelled by his own animal .<br>Also the similarity of the two powers, Snowball and Napoleon, each represents an Soviet Union at the era of temptation and political instability with chaos. Napoleon represents Stalin. He uses his power to obstruct every opinion spoken against him. For example Napoleon uses the loyal dogs in order to expel Snowball and make himself as the only authority figure of the farm. Snowball represents anti-Stalinist. Snowball says the same idea that anti-Stalinist said " It is important to change the other farm."<br> The pig, Napoleon can be likened to the french figure, Napoleon Bonaparte. Like the real Napoleon did to the king Louis the fifteenth, pig Napoli(short form of Napoleon) overthrow‘<br>d,재‘ the power of Snowball because lot of the animals liked and approved to Snowball more.<br>As a result, the theme of Golding and Orwell's novel, Lord of the flies and Animal Farm are really similar. In my opinion It is because of the time that they wrote the novel is similar, Utopian/Dystopian era. So the same theme of the writing of the two prolific writers are riveting thing to think about. <br><br>

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    Could You expand Your idea about the similarities. Here I see only analysis of Animal Farm and the thesis that it is similar to Lord of the Flies. I have some doubts about that and I cannot clearly understand the point of such comparison: is it only the 'theme of human and animal nature' or something more?

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    Personally i liked Lord of the Flies better, I thought it was more exciting and there was a lot of climax in the story. Also, Lord of the Flies is describing the human psychological minds. Although it is very similar to animal farm, i didn't find animal farm as enjoyable to read. (actually i thought it was a little bit boring...)

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    I agree with bread,,,,i thought animal farm was extremely boring. Lord of the Flies was a much better piece of literature.

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    Animal Farm was ok.. but it was really short and simple whereas Lord of the Flies was long, stretched the mind more and we could be more empathetic for the characters in the novel.. definitely better than Animal Farm

    If you think lord of the flies is really cool and would like to help out in a story then go on
    and make up your own bit!!x
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    TO Bonny Charlie - if that's her

    Well different from rather than better than. Neither book is long but there are clearly defined human characters in 'Lord of The Flies' whereas Orwell writing a fable uses animals and for the most part relies on the stereotypical characteristics of the animal species to create distinctions (Thus the pigs are clever; the dogs fierce; the sheep very dim and easily manipulated; the horses stolid and so on). Orwell would be happy to appeal to children at one level but the novel of course is a satire on Soviet Communism so Snowball represents Trotsky (Orwell admired him and was in a Trotskyist militia during the Spanish Civil War); the windmill is the Russian drive to industrialise at all costs; the persecution of the hens is the persecution of the peasants during collectivisation; the attempt by Jones to regain his farm is the civil war; Frederick's invasion is the Second World War; the raven was the unreformed, tame church of Russian Orthodoxy; the 'orphaned' dogs represent the NKVD. (As an aside, Nicolai Caucescu in Romania built up a secret police with many recruits from orphanages.That fact alone shows why Marxists and other subversives attack and undermine the family unit whenever they can.Generations have known the stability that good families give to society.) So 'Animal Farm' was a thorough denunciation of Russian communism. No wonder it could not be published in the Soviet Union.
    Golding was interested in issues of good and evil in a way rather deeper than the parochial Englishness of Orwell gave him scope for (Orwell's idea of heaven was a country pub in a democratic Socialist England!) Of the two writers Golding was the deeper but Orwell had a wide-ranging mind and as an essayist and polemicist is one of thr greatest of English writers. His advice on how to write plainly and truthfully is still very relevant. Golding uses irony and imagery in 'Lord of the Flies' in ways that only a brilliant writer can bring off successfully. Golding was brilliant.

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