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Thread: Christchurch, new zealand. Friday 15th march 2019

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    Christchurch, new zealand. Friday 15th march 2019

    No matter the race, creed or colour
    Of those peacefully assembled there
    There can be few acts of greater evil
    Than the massacre of people at prayer

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    I disagree Biggus. The massacre of people is wicked. The fact that they were praying rather than eating or singing or kicking a ball is completely irrelevant as far as I can fathom. I object to the thought that it makes it any worse, as though it somehow could be worse to die in a perceived act of sanctity.

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    Great poem Biggus that wasn't a philosophical tract, and therefore not worthy of any criticism. Or, might I say any criticism is not worth regarding in light of the heartfelt intention of the poem itself.

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    Well said, Biggus.
    My heart goes out to all affected.
    Our task must be to free ourselves by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty
    ~Albert Einstein

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    Fu cking hogwash. My heart goes out etc etc. None of you are honest enough to say you read the story and felt sad for a second then carried on unaffected. This pseudo empathy for every event that makes the news whilst whistling a tune through every tragedy every second that doesn’t make the news is nauseating in its sycophantism.

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    You never heard a politician say at this time our thoughts are with .. add dead persons name. You read the news and felt something breifly like we all did. Don’t sanctimise yourself with something deeper because it made the news. Thousands of people died that day in unjustified ways. Find this ****e nauseating in its ultimate insincerity. Save it for Facebook

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    Jerrybaldy, it is presumptuous of anyone to judge the merits of another's intent, but you're invective's against kiz paws in particular, and others by extension, are just hostile. Feel free to feel nauseated, but no need to puke in another's lap simply because you worked your own tummy up.

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    [Jane Austen after British soldiers had been killed in the Peninsular War:] "How horrible it is to have so many people killed! And what a blessing that one cares for none of them!"

    (From a letter to her sister -- i.e. probably not meant for public consumption)
    Last edited by Ecurb; 04-02-2019 at 06:17 PM.

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    Spring and Fall
    Gerard Manley Hopkins, 1844 - 1889
    to a young child

    Márgarét, áre you gríeving
    Over Goldengrove unleaving?
    Leáves, like the things of man, you
    With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?
    Ah! ás the heart grows older
    It will come to such sights colder
    By and by, nor spare a sigh
    Though worlds of wanwood leafmeal lie;
    And yet you will weep and know why.
    Now no matter, child, the name:
    Sórrow’s spríngs áre the same.
    Nor mouth had, no nor mind, expressed
    What heart heard of, ghost guessed:
    It ís the blight man was born for,
    It is Margaret you mourn for.
    Why are people (and the news media) obsessed with terrorist attacks? Perhaps it is because the randomness seems threatening. Perhaps it is because human evil is fascinating. Perhaps we relish playing at a grief that doesn't affect us TOO closely (remember the public ululating when Princess Di died?).

    Certainly we can all empathize with the terror of being in that mosque.

    All of us are doomed. It is the blight that man was born for.

    Should we care more about the deaths in that New Zealand Mosque than about Anna Karenina's suicide or Prince Andrei's death? Do we?

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    I'm stunned by the bile from Jerrybaldy and the attack on Kiz, she certainly didnt deserve it, she is always kind and thoughtful in her comments.
    And how dare you presume to know what I care about or who I empathize with.
    People do care when tragedy strikes, so dont judge others by your own standards.

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    I'm stunned by the bile from Jerrybaldy and the attack on Kiz, she certainly didnt deserve it, she is always kind and thoughtful in her comments.
    And how dare you presume to know what I care about or who I empathize with.
    People do care when tragedy strikes, so dont judge others by your own standards.

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