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    Jnani How?
    Seeker The 'data' sent by senses is incomplete, thus store house of 'data' is also incomplete. Naturally composition of mind which is waves and waves of thoughts is also incomplete. Why do you reveal yourself in incompleteness, when would you reveal your completeness, your wholeness if that is possible?
    Jnani I exist in veiled manner, only seeker, like you, realise my complete identity, which is pure-intelligence Seeker How have you gone from your pure-state to gross level (veiled self) ? Jnani In my original state of massless void (casual) to massless (subtle) I assumed 'activity'. In my former state I was whole, complete and had no second. After assuming 'activity' I became
    seems your levels of existence are many
    two. And then came my third state of manifestation (gross). Now I am in my third state of gross manifestation. But in each state I exist.
    Seeker But state of your existence has gone down from casual, subtle to gross. In each transformation you have been forced to assume 'latent' existence. The role of your manifestation is visible by outer 'activity' but you have been, relegated. The conscious 'activity' in each manifestation has created its own conscious level (intelligence) and you have been superimposed. How would you regain your original state of statelessness when your identity has been covered by the conscious level of your manifestations which are in as many numbers as your roaming conscious 'particles'?
    Jnani Have you still not understood the meaning of "after the completion of each cycle of evolution I go back in my original".
    Seeker This clearly indicates your misery; your salvation is linked with our salvation. You cannot attain your original until we attain our completion (salvation) by completely identifying ourselves with you. Then it is in your own interest to hasten our journey of enlightenment.
    Jnani But that is not possible. I am bound within my principle with which I have bonded the nature also. Each manifestation has to complete its course of evolution and transform itself into another till the penultimate manifestation is born, wherein the qualiteis of all previous manifestations (evolutions) lies. The epitome of all qualities in which I shall abound in my three states (casual-subtle-gross).
    Seeker Without your 'telling' I understand you mean human beings. ,
    Jnani Yes. Human being! He is the complete perfect model of all the evolutions (transformations) that took place so far. In him are available all the qualities that abounds in the nature.. All levels of consciousness, found in nature, are imparted in him. He is also above them because in him, I am embodied in my complete effulgence. In his destiny (journey) lies my salvation (completion).
    Seeker Man being your embodiment is something more also. He is capable to transcend you too and attain greater heights.
    Jnani I am again hearing your stale tune, the way I am forced to hear the same sound in my manifestation since their creation. .1 am bored hearing my own sound in my creations.
    Seeker It is your fault that you are hearing the same sound but are not trying to decipher the music beyond it, the beauty, the bliss, from where it originated. Why don't you try to find out its source. If you were the source, you would not be bored with it rather be happy to hear so many variations of the sound and enjoy their 'talas' (melodies). Even now is the time to realise your limitation and search with me, the Source, the Supreme Reality, the One Truth; from whom you originated. But your problem, I realise, you are 'intellect' and you are endowed with the quality of reasoning. You want proofs, visible proofs, which are discernible in your manifestation but what could cause you, is invisible to you, so your limitations are your own qualities, which force you, again and again, to observe your creations only but not you. As we have seen, thus far you have not been able to give satisfactory answer about the cause of 'activity' in you. You tell me it was caused by the composite 'activity' withdrawn from your manifestation but what about the time, when the first, the original, cycle of evolution was started by you (as per your version) from where the very first cycle got its activity. There are so many other questions also. But they would come gradually. Don't be adamant; give in, In humbleness lies real wisdom
    The more i learn more i become aware of my ignorance
    Awareness of ignorance is wisdom

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    Jnani Your aim, so far, has been to attain (realise) me. Why have you again gone into the vagaries of your mind?
    Seeker Then you admit, Sir, mind is full of 'vagaries' as you put.
    Jnani Of course, my manifestations have after using me a bit, super-imposed me with their sub-realities.
    Seeker But there are no super-impositions, it is, only their ignorance which they have imposed upon you.
    Jnani It is simply to convey that by relegating me to latent condition, they are living in their realities which are, of course, not realities but half-fed 'data' which they receive from their charged bodies. Charged senses, transmit only in-complete 'data'.

    Seeker So you also agree, the target of our search is man (Human being). Let us begin our task in real earnest, sincerely and faithfully. Before our joint effort in search of Reality could begin a novel experience happened, which in itself was unique and fully rewarding. Though at the beginning I protested but later I realised that whatever I went through, was essential and my good old friend 'intellect' was right in making me a Ginny pig in his experiment, but I willing associated in it and was magnificently rewarded, a soul raising reward. I am indebted to my friend and he deserves my salutations and I salute to him in appreciation of his 'experiments'. Jnani Since you have been my good disciple by acquiring worldly knowledge, ultimately stood before me and want to part with my company, I cannot let you off so lightly, as whatever you have been able to acquire, it was because of my grace, otherwise you were a mere body, immersed in its world of pleasures. It was me who raised you from gross level but you have confronted me. This is the reward you give me, for all the troubles I took for you.' I have decided now to put you back to the level, I raised you from. In case, you raise yourself on your own, without my help, I would gladly join your efforts and help you in furthering your search otherwise you douse in the mire, where you were before I met you. However, I will grant you three boons which would be essential tools for your rise. Three women would come into your life, in quick succession, each possessing one quality each of 'Tamo' (sloth), 'Rajo' (passion) and 'Sato' (righteousness) respectively. If you are able to come out of their influence, you would meet me again, realise your present self-otherwise spend your remaining days on earth, in the comforts of their qualities which would not be bad bargain.
    Seeker But what are you doing with me?
    Jnani I am taking back your present consciousness which is incidentally my boom and putting you in, quite a different set up, which would suit you in your pursuits. But I am giving you back your lost youth. By the way, you are a good specimen of your species. When I took you in my fold you had good body charms, vigorous strength and a capable mind. I am giving you back all except your past environment and consciousness.
    Seeker You mean you are taking back my memory and all that relates to my past. In nut-shell you are replacing my past, with a new one. But that could prove disastrous for me. Suppose I lose myself in your temptations (which you are presenting me in the shape of three women) I would be lost for every. On the other hand, I would like to accept your challenge and achieve the same heights again without your help. I am willing to become a tool in the nefarious laboratory of your experiments. I will confront you again because I am a seeker, put me wherever you like, I will seek and seek. That is my inheritance coming to me by genes. You can change my circumstances but not my inheritance. I will re-create the same circumstances (consciousness). Rest you assure, do with me as you wish. I say audio to you, to me and my present consciousness. Goodbye.
    Jnani I WILL you to be...
    Last edited by little-self; 04-18-2019 at 07:14 AM.
    The more i learn more i become aware of my ignorance
    Awareness of ignorance is wisdom

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