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    Cortázar, Julio

    I am opening a short story thread for discussing the short stories of Julio Cortázar.

    I tried to add the part of the Canterbury Tales thread, that refers to Cortázar.

    http://www.online-literature.com/for...=1#post1343134
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    I´m impressed that your library has Cortázar short stories collections in English.

    The choice for the next story is yours.
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    I think I will try to read these in Spanish using the link you provided earlier: https://culturacolectiva.com/letras/...e-luis-borges/

    How about "Casa tomada": http://ciudadseva.com/texto/casa-tomada/ There is also a YouTube reading of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGGOv3t3BMo It is easier for me to understand if I can hear it. I may learn some Spanish at the same time.

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    "Casa tomada" is one of my favorites too. And it´s a great idea to use the reading of the story to remember or improve your Spanish. I try to do this with my English in the forum.

    I´ll have a look at the you tube reading.
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    I finished the story. It seemed to me that the house was taken over by all that knitting coming alive, but that wasn't clear to me. One of the good things about them losing their house is that they finally were forced to get out of it. It was a good story--haunting without being scary.

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    Interesting interpretation. I hadn´t thought of that. I read the story as a political metaphor: Argentinia taken over by the military dictatorship and people having less and less liberty and space to move.

    "Lejana" or "No se culpe a nadie" next?
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    I was unaware of the politics of Argentina, but that interpretation would make sense. There was the mention in the story that nothing came into Argentina since 1939.

    "Lejana" sounds good. Here is the text: http://ciudadseva.com/texto/lejana/ And here is a reading of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzUEqGeuDzM

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    I´m looking forward to it.
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    I read Lejana, however, I will have to read it again. It seemed that Alina dreamed of meeting someone on a bridge in Budapest and got married so she could go to Budapest and meet that person. Unless I totally misunderstood it. As a premonition the story was pretty good.

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    You are right, Yes/ No, although,if I remember the story rightly, Aline feels drawn to Budapest as if by a force that she can´t resist. The marriage would be a movement of resistance.

    But I am rereading the story too, to remember the details.
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    She did seem to be drawn to Budapest to meet someone on a bridge. That was what kept my interest in the story: what was drawing her?

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    The anagram "Alina Reyes, es la reina y…" seems to dictate her destiny. She is the queen, with her very ordered but somewhat boring bourgeois life. As I see the story she gets more and more possessed by the identity of the unknown beggar woman of Budapest like the man who got obsessed with the axolotles. When they meet on the bridge there is the definite exchange of identity.
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    Her last name, Reyes, means Kings, so perhaps that is why she views herself as the "reina" or queen. What she predicted to see on that bridge was rather mundane. That she actually got there at all is what I find amazing. This does not seem to be an act of will on only her part.

    There is a sense of magical realism in the these stories. Perhaps that is what makes them interesting.

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    I don´t think she views herself as a reina, she seems to be bored by her life as an upper class girl and even by her fiancee. I think that is where it all starts. One of the things I like about Cortázar is how he takes peoples unconcious feelings and fears and transforms them in something very concrete, like an besieged house, for example. I don´t know if that is magic realism. It is very different from García Marques.

    If you want to go on with Cortázar, I suggest "No se culpe a nadie".
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    Garcia Márquez is not the paragorn of Magic Realism, if there is any. The very definition is of Magic Realism is sloopy, may be or not be something purelly aesthetical under Borges influence or something related to latin american resistense against imperialism under Carpentier influence. Anyways, it is sometimes a label, very alike the Latin American Boom, that Europeans used to group sometimes distinct authors (sometimes not so so) for an easy understanding and consume in europe.

    At any rate, not about this tale, but it is easy to identify magical realism traits in some of Cortázar work, after all he is heavily influenced by Borges (and precussors such as Poe and Kafka - which can be said about Márquez too), but some of his stories are clearly out of the label.
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