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    Devotees in thousands
    expecting Him any moment
    sitting cross legged, eyes focused on door!
    Suddenly the door has attained
    the living force of all.
    All have merged their beings in it
    - its soul has risen high.
    When my Lord Master, opens it
    To grace the gathering without
    It (door) weeps silently
    for the eyes have turned away
    - the cynosure is moving out!
    My heart melts
    Seeing my Lord coming to us
    Bare Lotus feet
    Walking on rough surface!
    Could my humble body comfort His soles
    Such is not my lot!
    Here Mother earth has attained
    What we yearn so fervently.
    The more i learn more i become aware of my ignorance
    Awareness of ignorance is wisdom

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    If we totally depend on society or nation, past history warns us that each nation under the sway of powerful leaders or the cult of leadership, tried useless methods for the improvement of standards of its general public in the sphere of education and material prosperity. But each time the results have been similar, further degeneration and devaluation of human values, at the cost of the few – the elite of the society – the torch bearers, the slogans shouters; it were always these people who benefited. They filled their coffers and expanded their imperial realms. Or if ever there has been material progress, it was always at the cost of nature and the dehumanization of man. Material progress has enhanced man’s value in wealth but his finer values, the very basis of his character, have been eroded. Man is becoming like the machines he has invented. He has lost the balance with nature. Nature, he considers his domain and by understanding its intricacies, he wants to master it someday. Spirit, divinity – love, not being the essential components of his machines, he has discarded like rotten cabbage.
    It is because of these worsening (degenerating) conditions that second category of masters comes into the world and they reassert the worthiness of human values by their personification. By precept, example and practical applications, they elucidate to the world, the potency of spiritual edification by showing the possible results of their experimentation and demonstrations.
    This class of Masters realizes the cosmic-conscious level by their own effort. There have been hundreds of such Maharishis (great sages), Messengers and Prophets. Their second most important distinction is, each one left the legacy of a new religion. And most of the religions came to be known after their names.
    The more i learn more i become aware of my ignorance
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    Dry river, dry hills
    ravaged by time and clime,
    yearn for rain-drops
    scorpions, reptiles
    sting the sand grains
    to sooth the simmering poison in them,
    insects, animals, men,
    lick their parched palate.
    Distant sky glare down
    wet not the gaping mouths,
    inherent thirst in them amassed so high
    - God Himself came
    to shower dew-drops everywhere.
    Music flowers, zoom aplenty,
    multitude swiped joy in His presence.
    Day and Night became cool,
    breeze wiped the sweating bodies
    what had God and land deprived ‘em
    He gave in abundance;
    He took their hate vibes,
    - responds in love;
    He gave them not only food and shelter,
    but food for thought;
    Steadily years passed,
    Sai advent manures the dry hearts;
    Parched souls blossomed-
    realized what they were deprived of!
    A churned bowl squeezed among hills
    became heaven of peace;
    Greenery painted on land,
    hearts sang in joy,
    Wrecked bodes rejoiced in His presence,
    -souls, bloomed in love;
    Gone is the past, forgotten are the rains,
    dry sands and hills!
    Instead reigns Master
    in surroundings celestial
    Multitude move in joy when He move
    They clap & rejoice when He sing
    Blessed are those who join
    His divinity! Pray ye all
    that we may come again to rejoin
    His advent!
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    Awareness of ignorance is wisdom

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    Nice meditations, all of them. Thank you, little-self!

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    You beat me to it Dream Woven.

    Really great, little-self

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    Dreamwoven, Nikolail, u both inspire me to go still more in the inner realms where there is an eternal ocean of bliss; really wonderful is our body---a unique temple of God! God bless u. lov.ls
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    Yes.... that's really wonderful... you inspire too and remind of early journeys. . . perfect in many ways. .

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    I haven't written or been online in too long -

    thank you and God bless you -

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    Come, clap, unloosen your grip
    Cultivate His name-join in His praise.
    Sing & clap
    There is nothing but Master-only Master.
    Chanting His name
    Clapping with joy
    I rejoice in Him, He in me.
    We both radiate in Him, and He in me.
    We both radiate in each other
    - Master vibrate all around!
    The more i learn more i become aware of my ignorance
    Awareness of ignorance is wisdom

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    If we totally depend on society or nation, past history warns us that each nation under the sway of powerful leaders or the cult of leadership, tried useless methods for the improvement of standards of its general public in the sphere of education and material prosperity. But each time the results have been similar, further degeneration and devaluation of human values, at the cost of the few – the elite of the society – the torch bearers, the slogans shouters; it were always these people who benefited. They filled their coffers and expanded their imperial realms. Or if ever there has been material progress, it was always at the cost of nature and the dehumanization of man. Material progress has enhanced man’s value in wealth but his finer values, the very basis of his character, have been eroded. Man is becoming like the machines he has invented. He has lost the balance with nature. Nature, he considers his domain and by understanding its intricacies, he wants to master it someday. Spirit, divinity – love, not being the essential components of his machines, he has discarded like rotten cabbage.
    It is because of these worsening (degenerating) conditions that second category of masters comes into the world and they reassert the worthiness of human values by their personification. By percept, example and practical applications, they elucidate to the world, the potency of spiritual edification by showing the possible results of their experimentations and demonstrations.
    This class of Masters realizes the cosmic-conscious level by their own effort. There have been hundreds of such Maharishis (great sages), Messengers and Prophets. Their second most important distinction is, each one left the legacy of a new religion. And most of the religions came to be known after their names.

    Without going into, what we have already discussed, it is a fact also, that there have been very few---so-called masters----who could reveal something about the creation of the Universe! Whatever they have told us, are proving to be nursery tales. Is our earth only a few thousand years old? Does space contain only a million of stars (when there may be billions of galaxies). Is the sun, an important entity in the communities of the cosmos? Or if we accept the Gita philosophy, that each soul changes its wear like garments then it basically differs with some other philosophies, that the spirits (souls) of the buried followers shall be redeemed with the coming of the promised prophets. What I am trying to impress upon is not to condemn or nullify the gospels, truths or ideologies of current or ancient faiths and religions. I am simply trying to make a point that there exist different levels of consciousness in our minds, which represent the same levels as existing in the space. And as we go on awakening our conscious levels of memory (chambers) including wisdom, we acquire those levels and our inner-outer consciousness (intelligence) becomes one, which really is one.
    The third level of consciousness actually has no level or state. It is whole-pure-eternal unto itself. This may be called, just to give it a worldly name, Supreme-Consciousness (Intelligence.). No human being or for that matter, any Master can attain to this consciousness while being in his physical body. A body of senses-mind-intellect-wisdom cannot enter its realm of still impulses. Though its love impulses encompass the other two circles, these are in different forms of pulses and energy. So any entity whether living or inert which is the composition of pulses and energy cannot enter its field of love-impulses. Any of its impulses which incarnate on its own accord and that too with some purposes, does not leave behind its symbols on earth. In human language they are called Avatars (Incarnation of god in human form). They do not leave behind any religion because they come from Truth and that Truth is love and love does not differentiate. They don’t come for the salvation of any particular caste-creed. Though they have to take birth like ordinary human beings, still they keep no active association with their worldly relations and friends. They are for all and all are for them.
    Only these entities come on their own accord and they choose their own time, place and parents. They come with a purpose and after fulfilling it, they leave, without leaving a trace of their worldly attachments or favored possessions.
    Only such persons know Realty, as they come direct from Realty and live and deport in Realty. Though they are not bound by karmas (actions) still they discharge their worldly duties like other mortals. But the difference between their actions and that of a mortal is that they perform them selflessly with greater zeal, perfection and love, for the benefit of humanity; whereas we perform them out of compulsion for selfish ends.
    In case a person, as you say, using his free-will acquires extra qualifications or qualities and thus is promoted to a higher circle, then should it be assumed that it was predestined or he has changed, not only his present destiny but also his future (birth’s) destinies as well? This poses a serious lacuna. A real Master knows about your past, present and future. But if you have changed your destiny, by sheer will-power (free will) then your future reincarnation (rebirths) and the likely preordained associations would also have to be mended accordingly. Will it not create confusion in the systematic scheme of Nature?
    We know about hybrid plantation, grafting, transplantation cross-breeding, synthetic genes, test tubes babies, cloning and much more marvelous things that would happen in future. Human ingenuity would produce, in the coming age, wonders in the material world. All this has to happen. Man is bound to reach the ultimate heights of his intelligence. He has to go through all the three levels of consciousness, gross, cosmic, supra – conscious. If one is unveiled and elevated to higher degree of consciousness, he will realize, there is nothing in this material world, which is not already ‘written (predestined) even the presumable assumption of free-will is nothing but the conscious-level’s awakening of higher intelligence.
    One can change one’s fate/destiny, if one imbibes necessary will-power, determination and earnestness of purpose. We are the masters of our fate. Then what is the role of the so-called masters in our lives? Even their contribution to humanity has been very insignificant as compared to the marvels of material sciences. Therefore, the roles of geniuses have been more important and result-oriented than the theologies of the Masters. Our rich cultural heritage is because of Sindhu, Harrapan, and Mohenjodaroo (Indian)civilizations, not because of Puranic (Indian mythological tales) stories. Scientific inventions, discoveries are for the benefit of entire humanity. In every field, man has improved his living standards. And due to these, average age of man has increased markedly. conti...........
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    Sing name of God in reverence
    With pure heart & pious mind
    Sacred body & holy environs
    Ooze love-rays
    Bestow joy to all!
    The more i learn more i become aware of my ignorance
    Awareness of ignorance is wisdom

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    Most of the masters who established new faiths (religions) were the scions of society. There are others who were from amongst the commoners. There is also no doubt about the spreading of their faiths. Either they (Masters) themselves were the creator of their religions or their class adopted the faiths of the commoners, as it suited them politically. As far as their (Master) authenticity about the realization of Truth is concerned, they rightly achieved higher-levels of consciousness but not one of them could attain to the level of supra conscious state! Though their followers believe their masters belonged to that level, but the actual teachings propounded by them, are not the repository of Truth – the whole Truth. Each of them attained some level of consciousness and proclaimed that as the ultimate – truth.
    Without going into the details of their theological revelations; discriminate them with the modern day science. Science is not different from spiritualism. Amalgamation of the two is the real balance that creates harmony in Universe. Science teaches us how a thing happens, whereas spiritualism tells us the source (why) behind that. About the period before the creation of this ephemeral world of materialism, the physicists and cosmologists are silent. But spiritualism tells us about the realms beyond.
    We are not here to condemn or play down the realized truth of the masters. Our humble contention is that, whatever they ‘revealed’ as reality, does not represent the whole-Reality! Not one of the Prophet/Messenger/Avatar proclaimed himself as God but only as His messenger or the Divine spark like others. They have explained clearly that each one of us is the spark of one divine father; that all are divine and imbibe a soul (spirit) which represents the One (Over) Soul. You are also right about the roles played by the Masters and their general influence on the common people of their times.
    First of all we should not compare their roles with the worldly rulers. The kings, dictators and conquerors have created and destroyed societies, cultures and nations. Similarly, since the advent of religions, there is in vogue the ‘State’ sanction to adopt a particular religion, and in every age religious zealots have been forcing their faiths on others, who happen to believe in other religions. Such forceful compulsion or conversion shows complete ignorance of the very tenets of their masters’ teachings. But this has been happening and shall go on happening as long as the personal inhibitions of man are related to the sensory world. It is not that we put too much reliance on the potency of our masters! Had it been so, there would have been no wars on religious differences and expansionism. Even the very founders of those religions either had to fight to establish their faith and died in the process, or were killed.
    The Masters, who founded religions and new faiths, were just like other commoners. The only difference, if there was any, was in the awakening of their conscious level, completion (attainment) of spiritual consciousness or the awakening of their individual self into the Supreme- Self, which is Universal-Unit of all the units. Man or spirit is not two different identities. Both reside and sustain on each other. Any man can become a divine or a beast. It all depends the ways he deports his senses; whether he sways under their pleasures or he masters them and divert their energies to higher and better awareness of mind (intelligence)cont........
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    He should be aware of the three worlds – that he should have the awareness of three-levels of conscious. All others are teachers, guides, scholars (of scriptures). They are shallow inside and have nothing to give to their followers. Instead of love, they spread hatred. The real Masters, too, can not transform the fate of their followers. First of all the system of follower-ship, should not be there. If a Master has attained some level of Truth (conscious) he should not limit it to his followers only, because the Truth that he bestows is Universal, hence should be bestowed to all. But if the Master himself is attained to limited level of truth, then naturally, its revelation would too be limited. That’s why the Founder-Fathers of new religions have been able to convey the contents of their revelations only to few. The holiness – love pulse – awakened in them, they can not pass on to their followers, as there is nothing material in it (consciousness acquired) which a Master could transfer or delegate. He has no authority or the competency to make or de-make the fates of his followers. His newly acquired possession (awakening) is love, and that he cannot impart on others. His awakened divinity (love-pulses) can affect only that person, who himself has purified his pulses of sensory impressions.
    The scope (range) of each master has been limited to the areas he traveled or to the followers, he initiated. Even their influence was limited, as each the aura of holiness created around him attracted/affected his immediate followers only. They (followers) instead of adhering to the truths their master’s expounded became fanatic believers, who only followed their master’s outer symbols. What he wore or how he deports himself! Even today after thousands of years, one can distinguish a follower of a particular faith, because he still supports the ancient outer-symbols of his master.
    What their masters revealed or taught, could only be grasped by few of his followers; who were ready to absorb the aura of holiness of their masters, because their masters had helped them awaken their latent pulses (latent knowledge in memory cells). Remember our master can help us, guide us, but we have to make our own efforts to raise our dormant cells to higher levels of consciousness. They help in removing gross layers of sensory-world and make them pure. These masters have themselves realized the love-pulses; their vibrations fill the hearts of their followers. As much grossness of sensory world they remove, that much void is filled with love-pulses (Grace). It also means, the devotees (followers) have to attune themselves to their master and draw his attraction towards them. It is a reciprocal affair, as much love (Grace) their Master showers, his followers return reciprocates the same amount of love as devotion.
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    They come to this world on their own ‘sankalpa’ (will), for a limited purpose and after fulfilling it, they leave. Like other saints – Messengers - Prophets they do not have to undertake any kind of sadhna (Spiritual Discipline/exercise – devotion). They do not have to work for the attainment of the three levels of conscious. They are aware of past-present-future but deport themselves as ordinary human beings. They reveal their reality, only to few chosen ones. They never play foul or err in their chosen missions. Their love-grace-blessing is for everyone. They never create any religion, faith as they represent the truth – Love combination, whose Source is One. And they reveal this Reality only. Their revelations are still valid. After 5200 years, Truth revealed to Arjuna in the form of Gita, is still as valid as it was then. Thousands years hence, its validity would remain as fresh and valid as it is today. Truth-Reality never changes with the changing dimensions. Sacred scriptures---sacred, because each scripture is proclaimed to be the word of Gods---of other religions have lost their significance in the scientific era of today! Not that they did not contain reality. But they revealed limited realities not the whole-Reality. Since its (Gita) enlightening discourse there have been many skeptics, but never, ever, there has been one, who followed its philosophy and failed to experience the Bliss of the Existence of God.
    But we should not attach too much importance to Krishna factor. He too was only a medium for the revelation of Truth. He was a prince and like princes, he employed questionable means – tit for tat – dubious dealings etc. May be for nobler ends but means should never be negative or against the ethics one preaches. Thought-word-deed should be one.
    Truth told in Gita is Eternal, Krishna’s Source too was eternal, but He is not accepted by many a reincarnation of God, because according to them His actions, behavior or tantrum, did not correspond to the whole Truth-Love. (A contestable statement though!)
    Many saints through self-restraint, sacrifices, yogic sadhna, (spiritual-exercise) compassion and love, realized some levels of Truth. But mistakenly they thought their realization as whole and considered themselves as the ‘knower’ of Truth, thus true representatives of God. As their realizations were only partial and their explanations or revelations were also incomplete. So their realities differed with each other. They made the source of their realities as local-personal-separate. Each of their reality personified and represented one different God. Their glossary of Gods equaled the number of faiths and religions in existence. As each ruler erected his empire and created its boundaries, the same-way founders of religions segmented the society in as many groups as there were religions. Where the state-religion, power combined, societies-Nations-civilizations became their targets in the name of holy wars – crusades, Jihad. The wars fought by the rulers for the expansion of their worldly realms and the resultant destruction wrought thereof, was negligible as compared to the quantum of ruins left by the zealots of the religions.
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    Happiness or joy comes from the balanced co-ordination of elements or normal senses. It means that scene observed sends immediate impressions to the mind via our senses and we feel joy. First we create joy feelings in us, only then we feel joy, not by observing an outside scene or by participating in a scene by creating a scene in my mind without involving my senses.
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