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    "Greater than awareness of ignorance is its acceptance"
    Such acceptance comes only after Nirvana (Buddha)!
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    Genuine Masters ......5
    He should be aware of the three worlds – that he should have the awareness of three-levels of conscious. All others are teachers, guides, scholars (of scriptures). They are shallow inside and have nothing to give to their followers. Instead of love, they spread hatred. The real Masters, too, can not transform the fate of their followers. First of all the system of follower-ship, should not be there. If a Master has attained some level of Truth (conscious) he should not limit it to his followers only, because the Truth that he bestows is Universal, hence should be bestowed to all. But if the Master himself is attained to limited level of truth, then naturally, its revelation would too be limited. That’s why the Founder-Fathers of new religions have been able to convey the contents of their revelations only to few. The holiness – love pulse – awakened in them, they can not pass on to their followers, as there is nothing material in it (consciousness acquired) which a Master could transfer or delegate. He has no authority or the competency to make or de-make the fates of his followers. His newly acquired possession (awakening) is love, and that he cannot impart on others. His awakened divinity (love-pulses) can affect only that person, who himself has purified his pulses of sensory impressions.
    The scope (range) of each master has been limited to the areas he traveled or to the followers, he initiated. Even their influence was limited, as each the aura of holiness created around him attracted/affected his immediate followers only. They (followers) instead of adhering to the truths their master’s expounded became fanatic believers, who only followed their master’s outer symbols. What he wore or how he deports himself! Even today after thousands of years, one can distinguish a follower of a particular faith, because he still supports the ancient outer-symbols of his master.
    What their masters revealed or taught, could only be grasped by few of his followers; who were ready to absorb the aura of holiness of their masters, because their masters had helped them awaken their latent pulses (latent knowledge in memory cells). Remember our master can help us, guide us, but we have to make our own efforts to raise our dormant cells to higher levels of consciousness. They help in removing gross layers of sensory-world and make them pure. These masters have themselves realized the love-pulses; their vibrations fill the hearts of their followers. As much grossness of sensory world they remove, that much void is filled with love-pulses (Grace). It also means, the devotees (followers) have to attune themselves to their master and draw his attraction towards them. It is a reciprocal affair, as much love (Grace) their Master showers, his followers return reciprocates the same amount of love as devotion.

    They come to this world on their own ‘sankalpa’ (will), for a limited purpose and after fulfilling it, they leave. Like other saints – Messengers - Prophets they do not have to undertake any kind of sadhna (Spiritual Discipline/exercise – devotion). They do not have to work for the attainment of the three levels of conscious.
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    Genuine Masters ......6
    They are aware of past-present-future but deport themselves as ordinary human beings. They reveal their reality, only to few chosen ones. They never play foul or err in their chosen missions. Their love-grace-blessing is for everyone. They never create any religion, faith as they represent the truth – Love combination, whose Source is One. And they reveal this Reality only. Their revelations are still valid. After 5200 years, Truth revealed to Arjuna in the form of Gita, is still as valid as it was then. Thousands years hence, its validity would remain as fresh and valid as it is today. Truth-Reality never changes with the changing dimensions. Sacred scriptures---sacred, because each scripture is proclaimed to be the word of Gods---of other religions have lost their significance in the scientific era of today! Not that they did not contain reality. But they revealed limited realities not the whole-Reality. Since its (Gita) enlightening discourse there have been many skeptics, but never, ever, there has been one, who followed its philosophy and failed to experience the Bliss of the Existence of God.
    But we should not attach too much importance to Krishna factor. He too was only a medium for the revelation of Truth. He was a prince and like princes, he employed questionable means – tit for tat – dubious dealings etc. May be for nobler ends but means should never be negative or against the ethics one preaches. Thought-word-deed should be one.
    Truth told in Gita is Eternal, Krishna’s Source too was eternal, but He is not accepted by many a reincarnation of God, because according to them His actions, behavior or tantrum, did not correspond to the whole Truth-Love. (A contestable statement though!)
    Many saints through self-restraint, sacrifices, yogic sadhna, (spiritual-exercise) compassion and love, realized some levels of Truth. But mistakenly they thought their realization as whole and considered themselves as the ‘knower’ of Truth, thus true representatives of God. As their realizations were only partial and their explanations or revelations were also incomplete. So their realities differed with each other. They made the source of their realities as local-personal-separate. Each of their reality personified and represented one different God. Their glossary of Gods equaled the number of faiths and religions in existence. As each ruler erected his empire and created its boundaries, the same-way founders of religions segmented the society in as many groups as there were religions. Where the state-religion, power combined, societies-Nations-civilizations became their targets in the name of holy wars – crusades, Jihad. The wars fought by the rulers for the expansion of their worldly realms and the resultant destruction wrought thereof, was negligible as compared to the quantum of ruins left by the zealots of the religions.
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    Name and Form
    Name is the subtle body of the 'form'. Name exists even before the form! First there is the will, then thought (contemplation), conception and thereafter the form.
    No it is not like that. Before we implant the seedling we know the names of their forms, as mango-apple etc. Before a child is born we know it would be a human (child) being. The categories of life in nature are in the sequence of improvisation of evolution. Nothing in nature is happening, perchance or in haphazard way. From the design of nature, you would observe that each category of element or atom is linked in a chain. If any link in the chain is broken or damaged, others are affected too. These vast categories of life or elements create sounds. The baser their existence, baser is their sound (vibrations). As the quality of life goes on improving, so does the variation (subtlety) in sounds.
    Only human beings have mastered the art of sound - variation and created languages, whereas all other categories of life, like insects, crawlers, and birdís animals interact with other members of their species, by emitting peculiar sounds, by which they identify themselves and convey their physical wants. These sounds are often given out in the form of vibrations. But remember it is the human race that possesses the faculty, to transmit its thoughts through the medium of language. Man is trying to fathom the minutest variation, intonation in the sound. He not only tries to decipher the voices of atmosphere and the space around him but is also going deeper into his mind - intellect, wisdom, and conscience and is deciphering their voices too. As we undergo through quality-wise transformations, our sounds too go through as many changes. At sensual level, we produce gross-sounds (outer-dialogue); at gross-mind, our accumulated knowledge stored in memory cells in the shape of sound-vibrations, converts itself, into thoughts by the medium of language (outer-language); at intellect level, we contemplate and rationalize, therefore, we create (need) only inner-dialogue. At this stage we don't talk loudly but speak in silence, which is known as inner-dialogue (inner-loud sound). Thereafter the state of Janna (wisdom) where inner-dialogue too vanishes and there remain only the vibrations of silence. So you observe, the outer sounds (outer dialogues) are the creation of the inner sounds (inner dialogue) and these too merge in the silence of wisdom, where the thoughts subsume in vibrations of silence (subtle-sound). cont......
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    Name and Form.....2
    here is no material or subtle difference between their form and composition. Both are identical. If we go deeper and deeper, crossing the layers of atmosphere (mind), universe (intellect) and finally reach the fathomless depth of the space (wisdom) there is complete stillness. But the scientific mind knows there is a small mass, moving in the remaining three-fourth vacuum area of the particle. In that mass is the sound of creation. Similarly in the stillness of the human cell, reverberates the finest (subtle) sound which bears no images or forms. These identical sounds found in the depths of a particle and in the images of human cell, vibrate identical subtle sounds, which are identical in nature. To the scientific 'eye' or human perception, there is no audible sound in both of them, but the future scientific wisdom eye would 'know' there is an identical sound in them both---This sound is the sound of creation!

    It is contained in the moving mass of the particles, it moves, because it is the activity of creation. Same way in human cell too, the final sound, devoid of its layers of mind and intellect, contains the vibrations of original creation, encircling in its stillness. Because of their moving activity, the particle is called a 'dancing' particle and the human cell is a Nataraja (a dancing entity). The sound of creation in them is devoid of any impurity of atmosphere (mind), therefore, it is in an almost perfect state of bliss. As the very first act of creation was pure, so it was blissful. Whatever was blissful is always eternal, so the inherited-activity of particle and cell is therefore, of the nature of bliss and eternal. The first 'duplicated -activity' of the still-particles and amoebae, was the urge of creation. As any act of nature, creates harmony and balance, so the original activity too was the result of unbounded happiness, joy and bliss.(cont..
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    Master Incarnate
    Energy being emitted by gross-elements gets too much wasted by the time it reaches the other planets or targets. Its carrier channels – rays, vibrations meet en-route many an obstructions such as gigantic bodies, their atmosphere or ozone layers. From the emitting point to the receiving end, it has lost its original potency and is received in a very diluted from. You know electricity transmitted from the generation sources, is largely wasted on transmission lines. Had there been no transformer centers en-route, there would have been no satisfactory transmission of power from the power houses to distant cities. Transformers transfer the energy and channel it further. All elements of Nature work on the same principles. Take water: dried up water of oceans are stored in the form of ice on the mountains. It melts according to the needs. Had there been no storage of water as ice, oceans would have submerged the earth. Nature and its elements though seems to devour each other, keep their balance and are the rejuvenating centers, which receive the energy of the elements, store it for some time and release it later according to need.
    Same-way, the Masters who incarnate on this planet and exhibit symptoms of super-natural powers, at their very birth, are the conductor of divinity, the very physical store house of Truth, Existence and Bliss.
    In these small bodies as human beings they are compact entities, constricting in them the 108 dimensions (54 of creation process 54 of their subtle bodies). A normal man can’t comprehended their splendor or amassed powers because he is used only to four plus one of space dimensional world. There is nothing abnormal about them, the differences lies in our state of dimensional levels of existence. What they display are their normal tools of Existence. Only our comprehension is limited to four dimensional worlds. The difference is between our narrow insight and their broader vision.
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    Jesus
    "Two different characteristics are to be found among men. One characteristic, which is rather
    common, is for one to delude himself that he is a good man, with many virtues, intelligence and
    talents. The other quality which is rare, is recognition of the good quality in others, their merits,
    abilities and good deeds and appreciate their ideals. Jesus belonged to the second category. He saw the good qualities in others, rejoiced over their virtues and shared his joy with others.
    In his twelfth year, Jesus and his parents, Joseph and Mary, happened to go to a Jewish festival
    in Jerusalem. In the jostling crowds Jesus got separated from his parents. After a frantic search,
    Mary found him in a temple listening to a speech of the High Priest. When Mary told Jesus about the anxiety that they felt when they missed him, Jesus replied: "Why should you worry about me? When I am with God, who is my Father, why should you have any fear on my account?" Jesus thus revealed that he regarded himself as the Son of God.
    Jesus prayed to God for three things
    Jesus grew up at Nazareth till he reached thirty. After Joseph's passing, Jesus sought his mother's permission to embark on his Divine mission.

    He got baptized by John, the Baptist, and spent forty days in penance in a forest. During the penance, he prayed to God for three things: One---
    He should be blessed with the quality of loving equally everyone; Two He should have the
    strength and forbearance to suffer patiently any indignity or persecution that he might be
    subjected to by anyone; Three--He should be enabled to use his God-given body wholly in the
    service of God.
    After forty days Jesus emerged from his penance with the faith that his prayers had been granted.
    Jesus encountered the fishermen, at Galilee, who became his first disciples. He told them that he had come to establish the reign of love on earth and that they would be his helpers in his mission.
    He spoke to them about the preciousness of human birth and urged them to seek the Kingdom of God within themselves.
    By the way of illustration, Christ told them the following parable: In a river the water is flowing
    in a swift current. But even the tiny fish are able to swim in it and move about merrily. In the
    same river, a huge elephant caught in the rapids, is likely to get washed away or drowned in spite of its enormous size. Whatever the speed of the current, the small fish are able to swim freely in the river and enjoy themselves. But an elephant is unable to survive in it. The reason is: What you need for survival in a river is not bulk but the ability to swim. Likewise man who is caught up in the ocean of worldly existence (Samsara) needs, not so much metaphysics, scholarship or detachment, as the grace of Divine love.
    Christ also taught that the body should be used for recognising the Indwelling Spirit and not to
    protect itself. It is the mark of ignorance to pamper the body and ignore the Spirit within.
    If a tiny sugar crystal is mixed in a heap of sand, even the most intelligent person will not be able to separate the sugar from the sand and recover it. But without any extraordinary intelligence, an ant is able to make its way to the particle of sugar in the sand heap and relish its sweetness. The ant is aware of the sweetness of sugar and is able to get at the sugar even in a heap of sand. Likewise, man: should seek to distinguish between the permanent and the transient and realize what is everlasting. Man is endowed with the capacity to discriminate between the permanent and the evanescent, but unfortunately instead of using this capacity he is caught up in the delusions of the phenomenal world and is wasting his life.
    "You must adhere to truth and not succumb to falsehood or unrighteousness. You must face with courage the vicissitudes of life. You must love even your enemies. Universal love transcends all other virtues. Love is the supreme virtue," declared Jesus.
    Only Love of God is real Love
    Jesus taught that God is Love. Instead of recognising this basic truth, men are allowing hatred,
    envy and other evil qualities to pollute their love. Man is gifted with the quality of love not to
    express it for selfish purposes but to direct it towards God. Jesus declared that them was nothing great about returning good for good. They should do good even to those who harm them.
    As Jesus went on with his preaching and drew multitudes towards him, some of the priests and
    those in authority grew envious at his popularity. This happens in all countries. They started
    persecuting him and charging him with treason. Jesus, however, continued up to the end to carry on his mission of Love and Righteousness, first, as the Messenger of God, and later as the Son of God. There is a reason for anyone coming in the human form. This may not be known to all.
    Only the Divine knows the real purpose. Everyone should regard himself as a Messenger of God and try to lead an ideal life. This means that one has to give up selfishness and self-interest. This may not be easy. But with God's Grace, it should be possible to progress towards Self-realisation gradually.
    Love is the means of developing devotion and achieving liberation, apart from other things. Only
    the love of God is real love. It is the royal road for man to realise the divinity in him and in
    everyone."Baba
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    The very act of the creation of this universe was as the result of accumulated joys which when unfurled; there ensued the first act of creation: this observation is quite near to the truth. But that later, now we must confine ourselves to the joyful activity in the particle and the human cells. You see, the end aim of every act of human being or of Nature, are to find joy and peace, which are basically one. In their search, both Nature and humanity create, recreate. This process goes on, but we are nowhere near the aim. Although in our search of joy, we try to find it through the pleasures of the senses, which automatically ensure genetic and material progression. Through our urge of creation, every act brings with itself the fruits of pleasures; we move further on and elevate ourselves from physical pleasures to mental joys. We move from physical creation, an elevation from pleasure to joy. As the ultimate aim of Nature's evolution is towards its completion, so too human destiny-journey is to complete its cycle of evolution and reach perfection. And that perfection lies beyond the realms of joys. The joys of dancing-particles and dancing-cells are not the end product. It is the last step of the ladder to reach the next height of joys, known as Bliss.

    The state of mind that connotes happiness: As body becomes calm after indulging in pleasure acts, mind too becomes still after having exhausted its utility. When mind is eliminated or when its consciousness revolves around the entire Universe and its awareness is complete, as far as the material world is concerned, it has exhausted its utility and is thus of no significance anymore. When mind becomes desireless, naturally without thoughts, and then there exists nothing but joy and happiness in its consciousness!

    Before coming to bliss - level, let us understand about the present subject of inquiry. You had talked about the stillness states of body, senses, mind and intelligence, what are they (stillness) and how these are acquired!
    Stillness is the subtle state of the gross-consciousness to which the conscious now identifies. When we identify with the mind, our body or senses are automatically still (-ed). That is when we understand the real motivator of the body-senses complex, is the mind, the pre-eminence of the senses over the body, is waned and mind becomes the master. It means, when mind is activated, senses are stilled and when intelligence is awakened, mind also is stilled (or understood).
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