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    The fact that Western nations and the Catholic Church had violent eras is no logic to answer whether or not Islam is violent. In my copy of The Hadith of Mohammed, compiled by Fazlul Maulana Karim, I find that Mohammed had more to say about Jihad than any other topic. This fact presents the impression that violence is very important in Islam. History tells us also that Mohammed used a great deal of violence to establish Islam, as did Omar. I think that people with knowledge of the origins of Islam would like to hear why these facts do not color Islamic thinking today. Also, why do Muslims kill each other so much, such as with Sunni and Shiites? If Islam is about peace, why are the Saudis killing the Yemenites? The only Muslims who seem to do well at keeping out of violence are the Ismaeli Muslims. I look forward to you thoughts.

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    I don't like Islam. There are sites devoted to educating people on the number of passages within the Quran that incite violence against infidels, and if you do not believe in Islam and you are reading this, YOU are considered an infidel.

    There are major distinctions between Islam and other religions. Islam was founded by a radical militant. Jesus may have been radical for his time, but he was peaceful. Buddha was peaceful, and so on.

    Another difference is that ALL of the Quran is fair play in modern interpretation. With Christianity, the violent aspects of The Bible deal with history, and the book does not incite violence against others, as The New Testament explicitly makes this clear.

    It is also common for Muslims to heavily immigrate to other places and make demands and impose their will on other's cultures and political systems. With Christian faith you might get a knock on the door every now and then, with Islam you might have a Muslim screaming at you on the street. Europe at this moment in time is a prime example of the problems Islam poses to the Christian faith and Western Civilization and its culture.

    In London, as of December 2016, there have been multiple large protests by Muslims demanding a caliphate to be established. That is a BIG problem. It's not being covered by mainstream media in the U.S.

    What many people don't seem to understand is that Islam isn't just a religion. It's a complete system of life, incorporating political, religious, and cultural elements. So when you invite large numbers of Muslims into your country you are going to have problems in the long run - PERIOD.

    As for it being a peaceful religion, well we already know it was established by a ferocious militant, and it has military rules and doctrine encoded into it. People don't read their history anymore. Islam spread like the plague, attacking and taking control of huge portions of countries throughout parts of Europe, The Middle East, and Northern Africa. The Crusades were a direct response to the invasions and attacks of militant Muslims, and if it wasn't for those Crusaders, Europe and the U.S.A. as we know it wouldn't exist.

    Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a dangerous doctrine.

    P.S. What is essentially going on, is Islam, and by obvious extension Muslims, are taking over countries by immigrating, and massively outbreeding the native population. In the video Clopin linked, fast forward to 5:10 and listen to what the guy says. The Muslim explains how to deal with Islam: A. kick them out of your country, B. starting having a lot of babies and FAST. Then he laughs because the liberals are too stupid to see what's happening. They don't see the big picture.

    Some people might think that is bigotry, and side with Muslims, yet everywhere Muslims are allowed in, in massive numbers, they begin to takeover the very same country that let them in. Who are the bigots? Who has the insidious agenda? Think long and hard about that.
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    I can only agree with my previous speakers.

    Different from Judaism and Christianity, Islam claims from the start political domination over the whole mankind in its basic text and in important secondary texts. Highly alarming is also the brutality and cruelty of founder Mohammed. Strangely enough, this contemptuous behavior is not perceived at all by the pro-Islamic sweet talkers of our days. Mrs. Merkel in Germany, daughter of a Protestant theologian and pastor, is a tragic example for this. Of course, she is only instrumental to several background stakeholders, such as Bilderberger and the Freemasons.

    How can one offically accept a teaching as ´world religion´ whose founder has ordered the cruel killing of thousands of people?

    + Mohammed, who financed his army and enriched himself by carrying brutal assaults on caravans and nearby tribes, and by selling the families of killed males, which refused to convert to Islam, into slavery.

    + Mohammed, who elicited information about a gold hideout from Kinana, chief of Jewish tribe Khaibar, by laying glowing charcoal on his breast until he finally talked.

    + Mohammed, who then had the chief and his nephew decapitated, and raped the 17-year-old bride of the nephew.

    + Mohammed, who had fleeing ´nonbelievers´ cut off their hands and cut out their eyes and had them abandoned in the desert.

    Unfortunately the list could be continued, however, the following quote should do:

    (Craig Winn in ´Mohammed, the Prophet of Doom´ p. 13)

    Mohammed financed his religion entirely through piracy and the slave trade.
    In the case of Islam, the concept of ´freedom of religion´ borders on the absurd: if this religion was really ´freely´ practized it would logically work towards the abolishment of secular democracy, which is according to true Islam a sin against Allah. What the Islam apologists (= sweet talkers) have in mind is not the true Islam but its thinned-out pseudo-version which has surficially adopted Western values. Below this surface the true Islam is on the advance, at least in Europe, and there with special support of Mrs. Merkel.

    Sir Winston Churchill in ´The River War´:

    How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vota View Post

    Some people might think that is bigotry....t.
    Well, yes, some people might. That's because it IS bigotry.

    "Outbreeding"? Are Muslims animals? Since when do English speakers use "breeding" to describe human reproduction?

    This is just one of many examples of the bigotry endemic to Vota's post(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecurb View Post
    That's because it IS bigotry.
    Indeed it is, which is not tolerated on this Forum.

    This thread will now be closed because singling out groups or religions in such a manner is not permitted.

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