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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy55 View Post
    We don't need a god to tell us, what's right or whats wrong, we know that most of the stuff we do everyday is wrong!!
    Good point. I don't think many of us are worried whether God is perfect or not. He (or She) can deal with that problem (or not). We just want to know if we ourselves are good enough.

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    The Oneness of God in Islam is a comprehensive teaching and can be further understood through the following attributes of Allah: Allah has no partners, no equals and no rivals Allah has no father, mother, sons, daughters or wives Allah is worshipped directly without anyone or anything acting as an intermediary Allah is not in need of anyone worship Allah is not answerable to anyone Allah is not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him Allah created everything without any assistance There is nothing above or comparable to Allah There is nothing that exists except that it is completely subservient to Him No one can withhold what Allah provides and no one can provide what Allah withholds Allah alone can benefit or harm

    because The true purpose of a human being's life is the worship of God, the attainment of His understanding and complete devotion to Him.
    Make your life simpler and has meaning, and based on the values of tolerance and respect for others and denounce racism and freedom of expression and mutual understanding among civilizations, cultures and religions ,and keep your principles even in the darkest circumstances

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    God is definitely perfect. All religions agree on THIS, at least

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    Perfect? He's the creator of ALL evil = Isaiah 45:7



    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil I the LORD do all these things:


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    Lucifer, a fallen angel, supposedly caused the Fall in the Garden of Eden thereby causing humanity's eternal doom.

    Jesus is supposedly humanity's Savior & Redeemer.


    But the Bible tells us they are one and the same:


    Isaiah 14:12

    Revs 22:16


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    the bible is NOT telling the reader they are one and the same. its simply using a term or concept that can be applied to both.

    the internet is full of explanations as to how/why that is.

    some of them have to do with translations, some of them have to do with contextual qualities of both jesus and satan.

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    There Is No Difference Between Jesus And Lucifer


    https://www.modernghana.com/news/124...d-lucifer.html


    writer makes a convincing case for why they are one & the same - any further discussion would entail a knowledge of Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic which disqualifies me
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    he makes a "convincing case" only if the reader is already dead set on believing an absurdity that flies in the face of six thousand years of Judeo-Christian thought and practice, is extremely biblically naive, or is incapable of objective critical thought on the matter.
    Last edited by bounty; 12-30-2023 at 06:44 AM.

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    Why do you feel that is absurd when so many biblical scholars agree with the position that Jesus and Lucifer are one and the same? After all, we read in Isaiah 45:7 that this god is creator of ALL good and evil so that such a view is plausible if viewed objectively. He admits that he does it all.

    Over the years I've seen many people make highly emotional arguments against this but none have ever presented any actual proof that they are two distinct entities or persons so that they could not be one and the same. And this is only one of many deficiencies that this Jesus had. After all, he promised that his ministers could easily duplicate and surpass every miracle he created [John 14:12] but no such thing happens today, the Old Testament promised that the Messiah would have recreated the Kingdom (II Samuel) but he failed to do so, a one hundred reward is promised to those who makes any form of sacrifice for him but I've never seen any Christian reveal that he got 100 times what they gave to churches or whatever. Strangely, the Prince of Peace actually brought war everywhere his teachings were spread. As Alan Watts said many years ago, more people have been killed in the name of the Bible than for any other reason in history. So sad but so true.

    But again, to each their own, whether that be beliefs or anything else.
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