Does Being Intelligent Have Anything to Do with Writing Good Literature?

[Pike Bishop]

Wolf, that was a baroque, irrelevant rant that didn't address my posts or the arguments in them in any way. So, since you're no longer addressing them and just talking at yourself, I'll just leave and let you do so. Good luck in your "discussion."

[WICKES]

Well, I doubt any of the great writers were dim. Most probably had high IQs, if that is what you mean. But I guess there is a difference between being smart and being an intellectual. Ezra Pound and T S Eliot were what I'd describe as 'intellectual writers'. Shelley, Coleridge and Milton were also 'intellectuals'. Yet Blake, Dickens and Shakespeare were not. Were they any less intelligent? I doubt it.

[cacian]

intelligence is nothing to do with books or literature
the minute one can put a sentence together the minute one can write
it just depends on who choses it and who does not.
those who chose to write are driven i believe by the feeling of language and the art of expression
those who dont are less fortunate because they have other circumstances on their minds of their lives does not give them the opportunity to experience
writing,
they are not encouraged either.

[Pike Bishop]

intelligence is nothing to do with books or literature
the minute one can put a sentence together the minute one can write
it just depends on who choses it and who does not.
those who chose to write are driven i believe by the feeling of language and the art of expression
those who dont are less fortunate because they have other circumstances on their minds of their lives does not give them the opportunity to experience
writing,
they are not encouraged either.

Intelligence has everything to do with good books and literature
The minute one puts together a sentence without intelligence is the minute one writes poorly
It does not depend on who choses it and who does not; that is completely irrelevant
Those who choose to write may be driven by feeling of language and art of expression; intelligence is still necessary
Those who don't write with low intelligence are less fortunate because they will never have the opportunity to write a good book or write literature
They are encouraged to write too often.

[axolotl]

Intelligence has everything to do with good books and literature
The minute one puts together a sentence without intelligence is the minute one writes poorly
It does not depend on who choses it and who does not; that is completely irrelevant
Those who choose to write may be driven by feeling of language and art of expression; intelligence is still necessary
Those who don't write with low intelligence are less fortunate because they will never have the opportunity to write a good book or write literature
They are encouraged to write too often.

i agree with you, except i dont think IQ can measure correctly intelligence.

[Pike Bishop]

I never said it could.

[cacian]

Intelligence has everything to do with good books and literature
The minute one puts together a sentence without intelligence is the minute one writes poorly
It does not depend on who choses it and who does not; that is completely irrelevant
Those who choose to write may be driven by feeling of language and art of expression; intelligence is still necessary
Those who don't write with low intelligence are less fortunate because they will never have the opportunity to write a good book or write literature
They are encouraged to write too often.

i could not agree on intelligence being related to writing books
lets put it this way
do you need to be intelligent to read a book?

[Pike Bishop]

i could not agree on intelligence being related to writing books
lets put it this way
do you need to be intelligent to read a book?

You don't have to agree with intelligence being related to writing books; it is.
let's put it this way
The intelligence needed to reading a book is irrelevant to the intelligence needed to writing it

[Ecurb]

The intelligence needed to reading a book is irrelevant to the intelligence needed to writing it

The ability to write grammatically is probably positively correlated to intelligence, but the correlation is not absolute.

[Pike Bishop]

I read your post, since I knew you would respond to mine. Your response is a false straw man of your own creation. I never said anything about "writing grammatically." I correctly said intelligence is needed to write good books and literature, and it is. I also said the lower intelligence required for reading a book is irrelevant to the higher intelligence required for writing a good one, and that was true as well.

[cacian]

You don't have to agree with intelligence being related to writing books; it is.
let's put it this way
The intelligence needed to reading a book is irrelevant to the intelligence needed to writing it

i disagree it is very much correlated
because writers are the product of what they read
if one is able to read a book he or she is able to write one too.
those who go on writing books have had better opportunities in life to do so
those who do not have not been encouraged and not because they are less intelligent or not,

[Pike Bishop]

i disagree it is very much correlated
because writers are the product of what they read
if one is able to read a book he or she is able to write one too.
those who go on writing books have had better opportunities in life to do so
those who do not have not been encouraged and not because they are less intelligent or not,

You are now changing the argument and making an irrelevant statement...you do that too often.
You equated the intelligence needed for reading a book to that needed for writing one...that was quite wrong.
Not everybody who can read a book can write a good one...it is astonishing you can't see that.
Many poor people with less opportunities wrote books...so your statement was irrelevant and wrong.
Your "encouragement" statement is irrelevant as well...try to stop making irrelevant statements.

[WolfLarsen]

Well, imagine a bunch of primates in a cage at the zoo screeching at each other about whatever they’re screeching about as they scratch their balls.

Are we really that much different?

Are human beings very smart? Compared to what? Snails? Other primates?

If you are satisfied with what little literature has accomplished then surely you will not help literature to advance.

Just because all of the books you’ve read had plots doesn’t mean a book has to have a plot. Most of my books do not have plots. I’ve read great stuff on the Internet that had no plot.

And you do not need to be intelligent to write a great book. Some of the best books I’ve ever read were written by “stupid” people. And some of the worst books I’ve ever read were written by smart people.

Almost anybody can write a conventional book. When writing a conventional book someone who’s good at sizing up personalities can capture them on the page, and thanks to voice recognition software he can do so without even being able to write. In other words, even an illiterate person can write a good book these days.

[YesNo]

I hear slime mold are pretty intelligent as well: http://www.nature.com/news/how-brain...igence-1.11811

[WolfLarsen]

Yes no: your sense of humor has improved in my absence!