Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Norwegian Wood - Haruki Murakami

  1. #1
    Bohemian Marbles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Hinterland
    Posts
    258

    Norwegian Wood - Haruki Murakami

    Translated from the Japanese by Jay Rubin
    First published in Japanese 1987
    First publish in this translation 2000


    The novel is based on the suicide problem in young people and the attendant mental illness that leads them to utter despair.

    The narrator (a guy) has only two best friends in school-life: a guy and a girl, who are also romantically together. When the guy commits suicide at 17, the narrator by total chance finds himself comforting and taking care of the girl who starts to behave oddly after the tragedy, apparently due to sadness, but things turn for the worse when the girl suffer a mental breakdown and gets admitted to a sanatorium for treatment. The rest of the story is the narrator’s attempt to put things to right and to bring the girl back to normal life.

    It’s a pretty straightforward first person narrative without the usual flourishes Murakami is known for. However there are a few things that got me thinking.

    He makes tons of references to Western classical music and American pop. The books which feature in the story, too, are mostly Western. Shouldn’t a novel about Japanese people set in Japan and written in Japanese should be more grounded in the Japanese culture, music and literature? One character who is a good maverick musician only plays Mozart and Bach and Beatles. The name of the novel itself is derived from Beatles’ song. The mentally ill girl liked the song and that is the only justification for naming the book so.

    Sex is a recurrent theme. It is too much in fact. At times it feels the author is taking great pains, figuratively speaking, in describing the repetitive sexual encounters of his characters. In this novel everyone is trying to do it with everyone else.

    Other than that it's a well-written, sad, moving and, at times, gripping story worth your time and money but not a spectacular piece of writing, despite it having sold millions of copies worldwide.
    But you, cloudless girl, question of smoke, corn tassel
    You were what the wind was making with illuminated leaves.
    ah, I can say nothing! You were made of everything.

    _Pablo Neruda

  2. #2
    Registered User Poetaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Northeast England
    Posts
    467
    I really liked this novel. I actually found it a very good and stark portrayal of loss, and maturing to adulthood with all the dreams and possibilities ahead but still the lingering blackness in the back of the mind. I read it when I was an undergraduate, though, so the things it was talking about I was actually living myself. I have a personal connection with it, so I cannot be objective, but it is a book I love much more than I admire.
    'So - this is where we stand. Win all, lose all,
    we have come to this: the crisis of our lives'

  3. #3
    Registered User kev67's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Reading, England
    Posts
    2,458
    Quote Originally Posted by Marbles View Post
    Translated from the Japanese by Jay Rubin
    First published in Japanese 1987
    First publish in this translation 2000


    He makes tons of references to Western classical music and American pop. The books which feature in the story, too, are mostly Western. Shouldn’t a novel about Japanese people set in Japan and written in Japanese should be more grounded in the Japanese culture, music and literature? One character who is a good maverick musician only plays Mozart and Bach and Beatles. The name of the novel itself is derived from Beatles’ song. The mentally ill girl liked the song and that is the only justification for naming the book so.

    Sex is a recurrent theme. It is too much in fact. At times it feels the author is taking great pains, figuratively speaking, in describing the repetitive sexual encounters of his characters. In this novel everyone is trying to do it with everyone else.
    I thought that. It did seem very western, particularly as it was set around 1967. I thought there was a lot of sex in it too. I cannot remember the names of the character, but the narrator was obviously a handsome devil. It was achingly sad. I really felt the narrator's grief (but maybe not as bad as he did). He had a terrible dilemma too, although there was only one sensible option for the him to take.

    I liked the title. Obviously I recognised it as a Beatles song. It was an incongruous title for a book set in Japan, but there was a reason for it.

    I did have a couple of reservations. One was that the narrator was supposedly a great raconteur, but he did not seem that way. His conversation actually seemed a bit dull, so I wondered whether something got lost in translation. The other thing I slightly disapproved of was all the suicide. I counted three.
    According to Aldous Huxley, D.H. Lawrence once said that Balzac was 'a gigantic dwarf', and in a sense the same is true of Dickens.
    Charles Dickens, by George Orwell

  4. #4
    Registered User Poetaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Northeast England
    Posts
    467
    Did you know that the Beatles song in Japanese use the word 'wood' as in forest, instead of the material of the song? Has an effect on understanding the book I think.
    'So - this is where we stand. Win all, lose all,
    we have come to this: the crisis of our lives'

  5. #5
    Bohemian Marbles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Hinterland
    Posts
    258
    Quote Originally Posted by kev67 View Post
    I thought that. It did seem very western, particularly as it was set around 1967. I thought there was a lot of sex in it too. I cannot remember the names of the character, but the narrator was obviously a handsome devil. It was achingly sad. I really felt the narrator's grief (but maybe not as bad as he did). He had a terrible dilemma too, although there was only one sensible option for the him to take.

    I liked the title. Obviously I recognised it as a Beatles song. It was an incongruous title for a book set in Japan, but there was a reason for it.

    I did have a couple of reservations. One was that the narrator was supposedly a great raconteur, but he did not seem that way. His conversation actually seemed a bit dull, so I wondered whether something got lost in translation. The other thing I slightly disapproved of was all the suicide. I counted three.
    I counted four. The main female character (Naoko) herself, her sister and her boyfriend, and the girlfriend of one debonair, ambitious character who is a dormitory-mate of the protagonist. But the last one is a minor entry used as a plot embellishment or as a filler.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poetaster View Post
    Did you know that the Beatles song in Japanese use the word 'wood' as in forest, instead of the material of the song? Has an effect on understanding the book I think.
    I did not know that. 'Wood' as 'forest' might have some bearing on the two main characters' rendezvous in the quiet and leafy sanatorium outside Kyoto, whose descriptions are well done. Other than that though, I can't think of the title being any more relevant to the story.
    But you, cloudless girl, question of smoke, corn tassel
    You were what the wind was making with illuminated leaves.
    ah, I can say nothing! You were made of everything.

    _Pablo Neruda

  6. #6
    Registered User kev67's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Reading, England
    Posts
    2,458
    Quote Originally Posted by Marbles View Post
    I counted four. The main female character (Naoko) herself, her sister and her boyfriend, and the girlfriend of one debonair, ambitious character who is a dormitory-mate of the protagonist. But the last one is a minor entry used as a plot embellishment or as a filler.
    I forgot about her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marbles View Post

    I did not know that. 'Wood' as 'forest' might have some bearing on the two main characters' rendezvous in the quiet and leafy sanatorium outside Kyoto, whose descriptions are well done. Other than that though, I can't think of the title being any more relevant to the story.
    Norwegian Wood was Naoko's favourite song. It is what causes the narrator to break down when he hears it being played over an airport speaker system, many years later.
    According to Aldous Huxley, D.H. Lawrence once said that Balzac was 'a gigantic dwarf', and in a sense the same is true of Dickens.
    Charles Dickens, by George Orwell

  7. #7
    All are at the crossroads qimissung's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lost in the bell's curve
    Posts
    5,123
    Blog Entries
    66
    Concerning "all the suicide," it is a novel that explores the problem of suicide. As it happens, Japan has a very high suicide rate. I believe it's the seventh highest in the world.
    "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
    "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai
    "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka

Similar Threads

  1. Haruki Murakami
    By TheBearJew in forum General Literature
    Replies: 42
    Last Post: 09-19-2014, 12:38 PM
  2. Haruki Murakami
    By tonywalt in forum Author List:
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 07-26-2014, 03:00 AM
  3. August / Japan Reading: Norwegian Wood
    By Scheherazade in forum Forum Book Club
    Replies: 56
    Last Post: 04-27-2012, 03:30 PM
  4. Haruki Murakami Anyone?
    By Lote-Tree in forum General Literature
    Replies: 48
    Last Post: 09-22-2008, 02:16 AM
  5. HELP!!! - Haruki Murakami
    By nabakovfan88 in forum General Literature
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-31-2006, 06:04 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •