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    Question The Name of the Rose

    Hi! I'm a new member of the Forum! and I need your help. This year I have to teach The Name of the Rose, but I have never read it and the school hasn't given me a copy of the book yet, so I'm already in panick! As I still haven't read anything does anybody know what the point of view of the novel is? And if you have any online copy and plans I would be really happy to get them! Thank you!

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    It is essentially written as first person narrative. The interesting part is that Eco was writing his Theory of Semiotics at the same time, and the symbols and signs described are important to the story. You might want to look at Umberto Eco's website and see if he has anything useful on there.
    http://www.umbertoeco.com/en/
    This site is also quite good.
    http://www.themodernword.com/eco/
    This is a "fan site", but it has at least as much useful information as Eco's site.
    You might also email Eco, and see if he can help you.

    The Name of the Rose isn't his best, but it isn't bad.

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    Go and buy a book, for the 20$ it may cost you, or 3$ if you buy it used or whatever, it may benefit your students greatly.

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    You're going to expect your students to read it, aren't you?
    "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
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    Semiotics or semiology was a theory that was a goner before it started. Alfred Korzybski had already published his general semantics in Science and Sanity. Check it out. Eco's best is not The Name of the Rose, as someone already pointed out.
    It is interesting to observe the link between Korzybski and Hiyakawa in Language in Thought and Action. Korzybski most famous statement is "the map is not the territory," which appears in another form in Marquez' "life is not the one we lived, but rather the one we remember."

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    How in the world do you think you're going to effectively teach a novel from what info you can glean from websites? Especially when it comes to answering questions from students?

    Some books are in pretty much every used bookstore, and that's one of them. Don't wait for the school to get you one, go out and find it, or get it from your local library. If you end up with an extra copy after getting one from the school, you can give it to a student who needs one.
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    I know I'm late to the game, but as a fellow teacher, I find this disgusting.
    I wrote a poem on a leaf and it blew away...

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    what's that? the bible?
    try nonothing.com or godhelpyou.com.
    Last edited by cacian; 03-10-2013 at 12:57 PM.
    it may never try
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    Another possibility is that he's a student who thought he might get better results if he claimed to be a teacher.
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    The book was also adapted into a movie. Beautifully done. It shows the attitude of the church towards its flocks, about inquisition and it even shows that the scandal cursing the church now, was common back then. Well actually it was the norm way back, between nuns and priests. Superbly portrayed by Sean Connery and young Christian Slater.
    Last edited by Bleeding Pawn; 03-10-2013 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidore View Post
    Another possibility is that he's a student who thought he might get better results if he claimed to be a teacher.
    what you mean he forgot he was a student? i mean he sound like a bit lost to me.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Darnay View Post
    I know I'm late to the game, but as a fellow teacher, I find this disgusting.
    Is obviously not a teacher. He/she's playing most idiotic in the neighborhood. Exceptionally ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Is obviously not a teacher. He/she's playing most idiotic in the neighborhood. Exceptionally ludicrous.
    It could be that he or she was rushed for time. The writing seems rather pushed.
    Last edited by cacian; 03-12-2013 at 11:53 AM.
    it may never try
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    it is just that
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    Thank you all for your answers! I have tried to get the book but even in English bookshops, the book is arriving at the end of the month and I need to start planning lessons. I can get the spanish version but it's not useful since I have to work with language so I relly need the English version. I'm from Argentina and children learn English as a second language.Of course I'm going to read the book, but as I have to send the plan to the head of school I needed the information I asked. Thanks for the links to websites you've shared, They will be very useful! And as regards the movie, I'm planning to watch some parts of it with my students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterL View Post

    The Name of the Rose isn't his best, but it isn't bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cafolini
    Eco's best is not The Name of the Rose, as someone already pointed out.
    Which is his best? It's not Focault's Pendulum nor The Island of the Day Before. At least The Name of the Rose has one definite plot and an ending.
    According to Aldous Huxley, D.H. Lawrence once said that Balzac was 'a gigantic dwarf', and in a sense the same is true of Dickens.
    Charles Dickens, by George Orwell

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