what is misogyny?

[cacian]

I am not sure I have ever come cross one and so wondered whether it does actually exist.
Is it a phobia rather then a hatred?
The other thing I was thinking is what is its equivalent for men?

[Zaza]

Misandry, but I think it's fairly rare. Misogyny, on the other hand, is not at all rare.

[cacian]

Misandry, but I think it's fairly rare. Misogyny, on the other hand, is not at all rare.

Hey thank you Zaza
It is Interesting. I wonder why misogyny is more popular then misandry.

[Lokasenna]

Misandry, but I think it's fairly rare.

I don't know, I consider myself a feminist - but more than a few times I've been told by female commentators that I'm not allowed to be one simply because I'm a man. Though, to be fair, I think they are very much in the minority.

[cacian]

I don't know, I consider myself a feminist - but more than a few times I've been told by female commentators that I'm not allowed to be one simply because I'm a man. Though, to be fair, I think they are very much in the minority.

Hi Lokasenna that is an interesting comment. Did she explain why you were not allowed to be a feminist?
I still think feelings of dislikes towards the opposite sex just because of their gender does not make much sense.

[Calidore]

Misogyny is just another form of bigotry, like prejudice against different races, or homophobia. They all have the same root--weak people who need to be somehow "superior" to others using any difference as an excuse.

[Charles Darnay]

misos = Greek for hatred. Guné (not sure how else to represent an eta in Latin characters) = woman. So it literally means hatred of women.

Misandry is hatred of men (and no, it is not rare - maybe less prevalent on paper)

Misanthropy is hatred of people in general.

[Sancho]

The Lil' Rascals codified it with their "He-Man Woman-Haters Club."

[cacian]

Indeed however the next question that comes to mind is the following:
Is mysogyny a hatred/phobia from men to women only? or women to women too? Does it include both genders to dislike women?

[Sancho]

I'm no expert, but I don't see why not. I mean, if Loka can be a feminist, I suppose a woman has every right to be a misogynist.

[JBI]

It's the fact that in some age brackets there are 130 males to 100 females in China simply because of infanticide. Whether or not a man says something that can be interpreted as a bit sexist in North America is rarely even mentionable in the grand scheme of the world. Most North American Women do not even know what misogyny truly is. How many people are greeted with an kill it, it's a girl, when they are born in North America?

[Nightshade]

It's the fact that in some age brackets there are 130 males to 100 females in China simply because of infanticide. Whether or not a man says something that can be interpreted as a bit sexist in North America is rarely even mentionable in the grand scheme of the world. Most North American Women do not even know what misogyny truly is. How many people are greeted with an kill it, it's a girl, when they are born in North America?

I think taking only the extreme example of misogyny as a definition is misleading in the extreme. Unless you take misogony to be the active hatred of women, ad by that I mean that you openly acknowledge you hate and truthfully I do think that is rare.

Misogyny is more ( I think) devaluing of women comparatively to men. And it comes across in a whole ream of ways that are more subtle than that.

misos = Greek for hatred. Guné (not sure how else to represent an eta in Latin characters) = woman. So it literally means hatred of women.

Misandry is hatred of men (and no, it is not rare - maybe less prevalent on paper)

I don't suppose we know who coined the word and its original usage? And I agree with you misandry is not very rare at all I think it just goes against the popular (patriarchal) narrative that society tells which is "Poor helpless women oppressed (and hated) by men and there is very little they do about it" but if women start hating men then there is more grey to the story right?

Anyway from personal experience I say Patriarchal society, views and values breed misogyny which in turn breed misandry and everyone hates everyone and noone is happy.

[cacian]

It's the fact that in some age brackets there are 130 males to 100 females in China simply because of infanticide. Whether or not a man says something that can be interpreted as a bit sexist in North America is rarely even mentionable in the grand scheme of the world. Most North American Women do not even know what misogyny truly is. How many people are greeted with an kill it, it's a girl, when they are born in North America?

There is this same believes or attitudes towards girls in India too. In Bangladesh it is certainly very present.

[Lokasenna]

I'm no expert, but I don't see why not. I mean, if Loka can be a feminist, I suppose a woman has every right to be a misogynist.

One does every so often meet women who think that men are their rightful masters, and they are happy to spend their lives in the kitchen and the birthing-bed. Fortunately, they do seem to be a very tiny minority.

Hi Lokasenna that is an interesting comment. Did she explain why you were not allowed to be a feminist?
I still think feelings of dislikes towards the opposite sex just because of their gender does not make much sense.

The implication seemed to be that, just because I happen to have a penis, I am incapable of fully empathising with or understanding centuries of cultural oppression and domestic servitude. Alas, to some of the more rabid fringe, any man is the enemy.

[prendrelemick]

I agree that there has been centuries of oppression and domestic servitude imposed on women. But not through mysogeny, more through a held view that they were the weaker sex, and needed protecting and shielding from the uncouth world of men and for reasons of practicality - they bore and suckled the kids, so they might as well stay at home to do it, untill they either died in childbirth or reared all twelve of them.

Nowadays I think women are gaining the upper hand in society, and would be right on top but for the annoying fact of childbirth and the way it disrupts careers.