Should Rhyming Poets Be Castrated?

[hillwalker]

Poetry was devised as a device to make it easier to remember than prose. There fore poetry has rhyme and meter, which prose lacks. It is my opnion that "poetry" that lacks rhyma and meter is simply poorly punctuated prose.

So you're suggesting that all free verse is nothing more than 'poorly punctuated prose', including classical works by the likes of Chaucer, Milton, Dryden, Rimbaud, Rossetti. . .

It must be quite embarrassing to have chosen such a deluded signature - 'The Great and Wise'. Really? (lol)

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[WolfLarsen]

On second thoughts WolfLarsen I would much rather call it rythmic poetry. A peotry that has rythm.
As to your experiencing nails on blackbroard feelings it could only be as a reaction to something you are not used to. They do say any reaction is better then none. Maybe it is saying something about the state of our minds that it has been dormant for a very long time . A rough awakening is seriously better then a smooth one. Traumatic at first but solid in the long run.
I believe that to control a langauge is to control all. Rhythm freezes a meaning and launches new others. It is liberating to liberate the sense and meaning of language. It allows of creativity and movement.

You don't need to rhyme to have rhythm. In addition, I assure you I am all too used to the nails-on-blackboard experience of the rhyme in contemporary poetry. It is not an awakening. It is more like sado-masochism.

As for rhythm one can write a poem to the beat of Afro-Brazilian drums, or 20th century classical music, or the free jazz greats David S Ware or Rob Brown or Sabir Mateen – or you can write your poem to the beat of your neighbors doing the mattRess-syMphonY-bEd-spriNg-bOng.

The rhythm is up to you. You don't need a rhyme for rhythm.

[YesNo]

I assure you I am all too used to the nails-on-blackboard experience of the rhyme in contemporary poetry. It is not an awakening. It is more like sado-masochism.

Some people consider your own doo-doo poetry to be a nails-on-blackboard experience whether it rhymes or not.

Clearly, the answer is NOT castration. The answer is to EAT them! After all, dog is delicious!
So, instead of castrating poets that rhyme I advocate that we eat them.
You say that eating human flesh is abominable? But there is nothing more abominable than poetry that rhymes! Making a stew or a steak or a hamburger out of poets that rhyme is clearly the civilized thing to do! Between cannibalism and poetry that rhymes clearly cannibalism is the lesser evil.

Are you advocating physical violence against those who disagree with you?

[WolfLarsen]

Some people consider your own doo-doo poetry to be a nails-on-blackboard experience whether it rhymes or not.



Are you advocating physical violence against those who disagree with you?

I'm not advocating physical violence against anyone. As a matter of fact I'm inviting everyone over for dinner! We're going to have one delicious barbecue! Doo-doo poetry as an appetizer and guess what kind of meat is on the main menu? Mmmmm yum yum delicious!

Hey near Chicago where's your sense of humor?!

We're going to have a South Side of Chicago kind of barbecue! So come on down from the suburbs and join us on the South Side!

[YesNo]

I'm not advocating physical violence against anyone. As a matter of fact I'm inviting everyone over for dinner! We're going to have one delicious barbecue! Doo-doo poetry as an appetizer and guess what kind of meat is on the main menu? Mmmmm yum yum delicious!

Hey near Chicago where's your sense of humor?!

We're going to have a South Side of Chicago kind of barbecue! So come on down from the suburbs and join us on the South Side!

Although I like to think that I'm a potential vegetarian, I am definitely not a cannibal, so I'll have to pass on your barbecue invitation. But, hey, thanks anyway.

The pattern of verbal abuse disguised as a joke is listed in Wikipedia in case you want to look it up further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse

[YesNo]

Although I don't live in Chicago at the moment, Wolf, it occurred to me that many years ago I did live in Hyde Park. Since that was south of Roosevelt Road that would be in the South Side of Chicago.

This all reminds me of a Jim Croce song.

Before you click on the link--well, I don't know how to put this delicately--but the lyrics do rhyme. I know in your case, you're just putting meat on the table, but don't tell hillwalker.

[cacian]

to rhyme or not to rhyme that is the mime.

[prendrelemick]

I love the discordance of a really bad rhyme, skillfully used. It pricks the pomposity of the reader, pokes fun at the serious poet, and leaves you wondering if the writer is taking the piss. Like poetical Schoenberg

[Emil Miller]

I love the discordance of a really bad rhyme, skillfully used. It pricks the pomposity of the reader, pokes fun at the serious poet, and leaves you wondering if the writer is taking the piss. Like poetical Schoenberg

Then I would like to see the poetical equivalent to this:

http://youtu.be/BtV0dL2jEHw

[WolfLarsen]

Then I would like to see the poetical equivalent to this:

http://youtu.be/BtV0dL2jEHw

So the rhyme could be used to make discordant disturbing music & poetry – interesting idea!

I like the music on that link. Although I wish it was more – powerful & dramatic. If Beethoven were alive today maybe he would compose discordant stuff like that – but I bet it would be more powerful.

Yeah. Discordant poetry with the use of horrible rhymes on purpose. You might be onto something.

[prendrelemick]

I liked the music too, you had to actually listen to it.

[Paulclem]

Castrate rhyming poets? You're talking bollocks surely Wolf.

We'd never have had this by Philip Larkin:

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178055

or this by the same,

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178051

And might I add that these two are far more shocking than the poo wee sperm wank that you write Wolf, because they are really critical, and really say something about society then and now.