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    Tree of Life

    Cypress tree of life
    sprung at the foot of the mountains
    surrounds the mudbaked architecture
    of desert homes
    and cools villagers as hot winds
    scatter ashes from date palms,
    their prophesies settling
    from Ghanal to Yadz
    like an ancient underwater canal
    where jars of grapes and molasses
    are paid as dowry
    till babes cry and children dance
    among pomegranate trees,
    their laughter as sweet as pashmak,

    then hearts which face the desert
    chant and recite the Avesta
    that they might see all things as living
    like freshly baked bread
    eaten with Kalleh Joosh
    before it crumbles like the sand
    and so desires are quenched
    with Shiraz,
    poetry imbibed like Ghalat Gold
    till one day they are left on the tower
    of silence
    to be eaten by vultures
    who circle the cypress trees
    sprung at the foot of the mountains.
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    This one is like a pantoum, not that it follows the prescribed structure, but that it seems to begin and end the same way with the notion of a "circle." The local references bring (to this reader at least) an element of exotic interest. I noticed that the entire verse is just one extremely lengthy sentence, paused here and there with commas, before the period indicates the full stop-- may be part of the circular effect?

    Also, I wonder if I detected a misplaced modifier:

    and cools villagers as hot winds
    scatter ashes from date palms,
    their prophesies settling
    from Ghanal to Yadz
    Who are the ones doing the prophecies-- the date palms or the villagers? check the spelling. I may be wrong, but the
    verb prophesy takes an "s" and the noun prophecy a "c."
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    Thanks Aunty. I spelt it with a 'c' the first time and then changed it. I'll have a look.

    The date palms or villagers - well I don't think it matters. It was such a challenge composing this piece and if one needs absolute clarity I'll tell them it is as clear as a sandstorm....!

    Out of interest, would you say this poem has an authentic feel to it?
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    It read like pretentious crap, from the title down. I hope you were going for that x

    For those who believe,
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    For those who do not,
    none will suffice.

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    It's not bad, Delta, but it doesn't sound like your from there, although it does sound like you know some things about it. And maybe you're not trying to sound like a native, I don't know.
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    Well I'm Australian and took up the challenge of writing about places I could only imagine. Do we stay away from it or not? Is being authentic the be all or end all of poetry or is it only one of many aims?
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    Probably only one of many. Although they do say to write what you know. But empathy for another's feelings, I think, can lend a universality to our writing. I, too, have written, or attempted to write, about strange lands and people I do not know.

    Don't quit, by any means; I'm just not sure this effort is entirely successful-although it does, as AuntShecky noted, come full circle. I always like that effect.
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    I like that this poem seems borne upon the wings of a real imagination. Poetry is just that, a melding of bold imaginings into fierce realities. What is this authenticity we're always craving anyways? Are we suggesting that imagination cannot be authentic? This poem, I enjoy the way it attaches imaginings to a reality that all cultures can comprehend. For me, that is authentic, and if not, surely inauthenticity can be beautiful then.

    The way it closes the circle from Cypress tree to Cypress trees, it's so natural. ANd I adore the use of an imagery infused with the way humanity adapts nature to its own uses. The "delicious" use of native foods, and mudbaked architectures, and underwater canals. In the end this metaphor of life and death as just the cycle from cypress tree to cypress tree, this is what I received...
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    Maybe. That's your take, and I respect that. It just feels like she knows a few things and slapped them in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qimissung View Post
    Maybe. That's your take, and I respect that. It just feels like she knows a few things and slapped them in there.
    I get that. Other than put that in my poem, what do you suggest I do?
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    I don't think I have a specific answer for you, Delta. You are an extremely talented writer. I would personally just put it in the back of my mind for awhile ad let it simmer. When the time is right something will pop out.

    I think maybe it's that everything in it seems at too much a remove. Maybe I'm looking for something with more feeling, something that is more personal. I hesitate to use that word, since that's something we've discussed, but you are allowed to write about something that is seemingly not yours (as if you need my permission, lol). After all very few of our works are about just ourselves.

    It will come. Give it a bit of time. Put it away for a week and then read it again. You may still like it just as it is, and that's as it should be as you are the author.
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    Thanks qimi. I'll probably throw it into a stew of some sort and use it elsewhere. I was trying to step out of myself because I was sick of the same fingerprint but hey, you can't get away from who you are!
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    Yeah, I know the feeling. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater when you put it in the stew (just to mix a few metaphors ).
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    "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandclimber View Post
    I like that this poem seems borne upon the wings of a real imagination. Poetry is just that, a melding of bold imaginings into fierce realities. What is this authenticity we're always craving anyways? Are we suggesting that imagination cannot be authentic? This poem, I enjoy the way it attaches imaginings to a reality that all cultures can comprehend. For me, that is authentic, and if not, surely inauthenticity can be beautiful then.

    The way it closes the circle from Cypress tree to Cypress trees, it's so natural. ANd I adore the use of an imagery infused with the way humanity adapts nature to its own uses. The "delicious" use of native foods, and mudbaked architectures, and underwater canals. In the end this metaphor of life and death as just the cycle from cypress tree to cypress tree, this is what I received...
    Thanks Islandclimber. I'm glad you liked it.
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    I think it takes courage to step out of one's established path. Talent needs many moulds, and your talent may just be trying some new.
    Like others, I love the roundness of this poem. As for describing things unexperienced, I believe it is a success when they gracefully envelop the soul/the self message, which you have attempted here.

    Health and joy for the New Year, Delta.

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