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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Waking up this thread because of the Ex LA cop, who lost his job and because he feels a sense of injustice, is shooting his former collegues. It is a situation that sums up the whole deadly combination of factors, that from here seems peculiar to America. Firstly, there is a confidence in violence that runs through society from the Government down-a belief that violence is the answer. You can put things right with violence. So the ex cop has a grievance and resorts to violence.

    Then the is the cult of the individual over and above society. The cop feels he has a right to declare war on the LA police. It's his call as a free and independent citizen. and if people get killed, it's unfortunate but there are always casualties in war.

    And finally, there is all that freely available weaponry, enableing him to persue his war easily and effectively.
    I agree with everything said here. Also saw that the police shot two women because they thought they were the shooter... seems like a difficult mistake to make, considering the shooter is a large man...
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    And your point is?

    It's not going to change, predrelmick. There was a story on the news last night that a local gun manufacturer cannot keep up with the current demand for guns. My son said that would go on for at least two years.

    Here's something else:



    The article is titled "How many people have been killed by guns since Newtown?"


    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._shooting.html
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    I think that Muslim women should have the right to bare arms, even in Iran.

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    Hindu women too, particularly in Dehli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Waking up this thread because of the Ex LA cop, who lost his job and because he feels a sense of injustice, is shooting his former collegues. It is a situation that sums up the whole deadly combination of factors, that from here seems peculiar to America. Firstly, there is a confidence in violence that runs through society from the Government down-a belief that violence is the answer. You can put things right with violence. So the ex cop has a grievance and resorts to violence.

    Then the is the cult of the individual over and above society. The cop feels he has a right to declare war on the LA police. It's his call as a free and independent citizen. and if people get killed, it's unfortunate but there are always casualties in war.

    And finally, there is all that freely available weaponry, enableing him to persue his war easily and effectively.
    I found this clip from Full Metal Jacket. It may have applicability with respect to our present shooter out in California.

    http://youtu.be/a5IWK9sRYTs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecurb View Post
    I think that Muslim women should have the right to bare arms, even in Iran.
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    Hindu women too, particularly in Dehli.

    It does seem extremely desirable to arm the weak. That's how it starts, I bet our rogue ex policeman sees himself as a victim.

    A far better idea is to have a strong rule of law based on equality and justice.
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    Hey, I'm a woman. I guess I need a gun.

    Makes me think of a scene in some movie where they all end up with their guns pointed at each others head. Hehe.
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    I support women's rights to bare arms, and bare faces, too (in case anyone didn't get my earlier homophone). Here in Oregon, the right to bare not only arms, but the entire body is considered a First Amendment right, not a Second.

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    Doh, I completely missed that !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecurb View Post
    I support women's rights to bare arms, and bare faces, too (in case anyone didn't get my earlier homophone). Here in Oregon, the right to bare not only arms, but the entire body is considered a First Amendment right, not a Second.
    Haha!

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