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  • I am a man and I regularly watch porn.

    18 36.73%
  • I am a man and I sometimes watch porn.

    7 14.29%
  • I am a man and I rarely watch porn.

    3 6.12%
  • I a man and I never watch porn because I don't feel the need.

    1 2.04%
  • I am a man and I would never consider watching porn on moral grounds.

    2 4.08%
  • I am a woman and I regularly watch porn.

    5 10.20%
  • I am a woman and I sometimes watch porn.

    7 14.29%
  • I am a woman and I rarely watch porn.

    2 4.08%
  • I am a woman and I never watch porn because I don't feel the need.

    3 6.12%
  • I am a woman and I would never consider watching porn on moral grounds.

    0 0%
  • Billl's Syndrome (never watch porn despite needing it)

    1 2.04%
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    A User, but Registered! tonywalt's Avatar
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    But this thread is about porn isn’t it?
    Of course it isn't.

    This "Serious Discussion" sub-forum has become a Hydes park speakers corner where you just simply steer onto a tangent of your own liking and interest and go with it. Which is why I play on the forum games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    But this thread is about porn isn’t it?
    No.

    This thread has simply been created to discuss/find out about our members' attitude towards pornography. No one is expected to do precursory reading to share what they think or feel on the subject.
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    What's "porn"?
    Nothingness - A dark comedy about delusion, bad weather, and a 21st century witch hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherazade View Post
    No.

    This thread has simply been created to discuss/find out about our members' attitude towards pornography. No one is expected to do precursory reading to share what they think or feel on the subject.
    And this is how I understood that the purpose is to talk about attitude about pornography. Everybody is unique and has a different approach to that subject. Nothing is wrong about that and I hope that everybody has the rights to speak freely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherazade View Post
    No.

    This thread has simply been created to discuss/find out about our members' attitude towards pornography. No one is expected to do precursory reading to share what they think or feel on the subject.
    Really? While I'm enjoying the "I've read more books than you have " as I haven't read any, I rather suspect any opinion I offer will be discounted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    And this is how I understood that the purpose is to talk about attitude about pornography. Everybody is unique and has a different approach to that subject. Nothing is wrong about that and I hope that everybody has the rights to speak freely.
    Indeed... As long as you do not discourage them expressing their opinions or discount them just because they did not happen to read the three books you mentioned.

    What's more, I am sure we are all able to express our opinions without hiding behind some obscure "scientist" or "research".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta40 View Post
    Really? While I'm enjoying the "I've read more books than you have " as I haven't read any, I rather suspect any opinion I offer will be discounted.
    No, you misunderstood my intentions. It is always better to ask for clarification rather than making assumptions. I never talk about the subject I haven’t studied. Second, I don’t like to influence others what I think but I post links or quotes to stimulate discussion. If members reject other scholars without being familiar with their work, I call on it because I don’t want to continue meaningless conversation.

    You may find other members who will be willing to continue......

    Enjoy LitNet.

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    Well good Renaissance obscure author quoting. Now realize the vast market for porn is not in European or American hands, and realize attitudes toward pornography, and trends of the market are different in other parts of the world, or even the modern world.

    That being said, the most simple response to your silly notions of abuse and the awful situation of the market in porn is this: how many women film and put themselves on the internet? How many couples film themselves and put themselves online, many for free? How many people dream of doing porn, and may even do it for free? How many people in these self-filmed enterprises have a good time doing it? maybe people consider the job a form of performance, in which they have a relationship with the invisible viewer, the same way a good actor can think of the craft as a form of performance with the audience in mind? Taking pride in the audience's enjoyment?

    Now, who ever considered that? Likewise, I would have pegged you a Dworkin reader, who has already taken such a beating from feminist authors that I do not need to add fuel to the fire. The assumptions in the late 70s and 80s are no longer true. The industry requirement on protection and inspection for diseases has increased significantly since knowledge about the AIDS virus has become widespread. Many producers require the use of prophylactics. What do you think of that then?

    As for a woman not enjoying being filmed for hours, maybe she enjoys knowing that the audience will enjoy the final product? Are you suggesting that an actor in movies cannot love acting for a director who insists on retakes and filming from different angles, such as famous directors like Kubrick.

    I think the thing more likely to lead women in the industry to abuse and depression is not the people in the industry, but the rabid men and women in the public who treat them as animals and victims of abuse regardless of their own agency and their own freedoms. Imagine if a bible pushing annoying woman was breathing down your throat that on one hand you are a devil and an insult to women everywhere and an accomplice to male abuse against women, yet on the other hand you are the victim of an oppressive male society.
    Last edited by JBI; 12-13-2012 at 12:13 AM.

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    ftil may be right about the porn industry because it's just so big. There are so many porn producers out there--any sleeze ball with a camera and Internet can rope in a drugged out prostitute to shoot a video for some cash, but the big porn companies, the main production companies don't operate that way. The actresses seem into it (and yes, I realize this is what actresses do) when watching interviews. I'm not going to name actresses or companies (I don't know how far to take details in a discussion like this on a forum like this), but I can think of plenty. If its not an established production company with a track record, I don't watch it.

    As to people, just men apparently, who are addicted to porn and develop all those bad habits and effects, those, like most cases of addiction, are surely the minority

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    Most people are just looking for something to do each day. Sometimes some people look at naked people.

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    Wisdom Varenne ... with style and grace. Among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions.

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    I try to state things simply. Thank you.

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    I also laughed at your post Varenne. It was innocently humorous.

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    Glassing galaxies; befriending molecules; watching naked people; always someting ... to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBI View Post
    Well good Renaissance obscure author quoting.
    Well, it is not obscure and many scholars studied it in depth. I appreciate their work very much. If it wasn’t Eros and Magic in the Renaissance written by prof. Ioan P. Couliano, I would never read G. Bruno. I would never found out why C. Jung was a godfather of art therapy and from where art therapy originated.

    That being said, the most simple response to your silly notions of abuse and the awful situation of the market in porn is this: how many women film and put themselves on the internet? How many couples film themselves and put themselves online, many for free? How many people dream of doing porn, and may even do it for free? How many people in these self-filmed enterprises have a good time doing it? maybe people consider the job a form of performance, in which they have a relationship with the invisible viewer, the same way a good actor can think of the craft as a form of performance with the audience in mind? Taking pride in the audience's enjoyment?


    “Your silly notion of abuse”…….it is not my notion but I have posted a few videos where former porn actresses talked about their experience. Argue with them.


    Do you ask those questions to find out if the data is available or you ask if it would be even possible to gather that information? Or, you just make assumptions that you know how many people dream about doing porn for example.

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