Does Time Exist?

[SkyCetacean]

Minutes, seconds, the like.

[jlcox]

It's not ridiculous, but perfectly sensible. It rests upon the definition of sound being sond waves interpreted by an ear. If there is no ear to interpret the sound, then there is no sound, just vibrations that dissipate without affecting an ear.

The book analogy doesn't work because the book has already been put there and designated already by someone. Whether it is literature is a matter of opinion not phenomenon.

I disagree: sound is a series of vibrating waves that CAN BE perceived by the ear. Just because you don't perceive it doesn't mean it didn't happen or doesn't exist. Did the planets in other galaxies not exist because there was no human sense to perceive them before high-powered telescopes exist?

[cacian]

Minutes, seconds, the like.

Speed of light is faster then seconds and minutes or so I know.

[SkyCetacean]

Speed of light is faster then seconds and minutes or so I know.

I meant that's the units used to measures time. D:

[Cioran]

You cannot separate time from space, as Minkowksi noted in 1908, deriving this from special relativity. So what we get is spacetime. Each event in spacetime has four coordinates: three of space, and one of time. They are called spacetime events. The distance between them is known as the spacetime interval. This implies that just as all locations in space exist, so too do all events in time. The past, present and future all exist.

[cacian]

You cannot separate time from space, as Minkowksi noted in 1908, deriving this from special relativity. So what we get is spacetime. Each event in spacetime has four coordinates: three of space, and one of time. They are called spacetime events. The distance between them is known as the spacetime interval. This implies that just as all locations in space exist, so too do all events in time. The past, present and future all exist.

This makes me think.
What is the evenest line on earth if there is such a thing?

[mal4mac]

This makes me think.
What is the evenest line on earth if there is such a thing?

Maybe the straight lines in the word IBM? IBM researchers put down the letters atom by atom at the nanoscale, getting atoms lined up is pretty straight...

[Paulclem]

I disagree: sound is a series of vibrating waves that CAN BE perceived by the ear. Just because you don't perceive it doesn't mean it didn't happen or doesn't exist. Did the planets in other galaxies not exist because there was no human sense to perceive them before high-powered telescopes exist?

I don't dispute what you say - vibrations exist whether they are heard or not. Perhaps we disagree on the definition of sound. I'm taking sound as defined as vibrations perceived in an ear and thus interpreted by the brain.

[mal4mac]

I don't dispute what you say - vibrations exist whether they are heard or not. Perhaps we disagree on the definition of sound. I'm taking sound as defined as vibrations perceived in an ear and thus interpreted by the brain.

What about tinnitus - that's a sound, but not perceived in an ear. Or the memory of a sound? And given that you can't hear everything this precise moment, then doesn't sound almost always involve memory? And what about auditory hallucinations? Or the Buddha speaking to you from the God Realm?

[Paulclem]

What about tinnitus - that's a sound, but not perceived in an ear. Or the memory of a sound? And given that you can't hear everything this precise moment, then doesn't sound almost always involve memory? And what about auditory hallucinations? Or the Buddha speaking to you from the God Realm?

What we were referring to was the definition of sound and whether there is sound if no-one hears it - you know the tree falling in the forest idea when no-one is around. The point I was making is that there can't be a sound unless it is perceived by an ear to interpret it.

Your points take us outside of that definition. Tinnitus - I can't comment because i don't kow what causes it, but as it is an abnormal medical condition is it a fair point?

The memory of a sound is still previously interpreted, so I don't see there's a problem with that. As for the memory of sound, presumably this is he gap between the sensory organs picking up the sound and the brain interpreting it. That seems consistent with what we've been saying that sound is perceived and modified by the brain; that it is not inherently existing of itself.

Presumably auditory hallucinations are produced by the chemical interaction of the sensory organs, brain and memory. More than that I can really say, but it seems consistent with the theory.

The Buddha speaking rom the God realms is an intersting idea. I think that ability is developed/ karmically present - not bestowed. Again I know nothing of how that would work, but idon't think it contradicts the theory.

[cacian]

Timing existence is an impossible task.
Exitentialism goes beyond time even further then it.
If we are unable to time existence then time only exists in relation to one. Meaning timing is one to one.

So if time is not palpable then it is only half met.
Everything else that is is certain to be because we not only see it but we feel it too.

[mal4mac]

Tinnitus - I can't comment because i don't kow what causes it...

The cause is uncertain - but why do you need to know the cause? It's a ringing sound, I can vouch for that through experience!

[Paulclem]

The cause is uncertain - but why do you need to know the cause? It's a ringing sound, I can vouch for that through experience!

Just because we are talking about cause and effect - vibrations to sound interpreted by the ear. Tinnitus is the effect, but is the cause a physical problem or something else.? Anyway, I didn't feel I could usefully comment. An unpleasant condition I'm told.

[mal4mac]

Just because we are talking about cause and effect - vibrations to sound interpreted by the ear. Tinnitus is the effect, but is the cause a physical problem or something else.? Anyway, I didn't feel I could usefully comment. An unpleasant condition I'm told.

Unpleasant, but not impossible. Mindfulness meditation helps me live happily with the condition. In fact, tinnitus makes it plain that mindfulness meditation is not new age nonsense. For Buddhists, tinnitus may be a great positive!

[cacian]

You cannot separate time from space, as Minkowksi noted in 1908, deriving this from special relativity. So what we get is spacetime. Each event in spacetime has four coordinates: three of space, and one of time. They are called spacetime events. The distance between them is known as the spacetime interval. This implies that just as all locations in space exist, so too do all events in time. The past, present and future all exist.

How do you mean
''You cannot separate time from space'' ?
Are you saying that space equals time and vice versa?