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    Quote Originally Posted by richardshelton View Post
    Reality, eternity, very different things, not even in the same classed/categories.

    Reality is what we are, what is around us, what we can discover about our environment (of which we are a part)>

    Eternity is a concept of timelessness, forever. (and maybe only something longer than us, because we would never know).

    The closest I can come to relating the two is to assume reality is infinite and therefore potentially eternal in our quest to learn about it.
    Would you say that reality is definable and eternity is oingoing until further notice?

    For example
    Someone's idea is an eternal entity that is on hold until its procedure to be creat or form an idealism or materialism.
    Once the idea has materialised then it has become reality thus this eternity has ceased.
    Eternity is a concept not rather then a physical truth and can only be measured against time/reality.
    Eternity is wheel of time that once reaches spefics/details it stops to project and reproduct.
    In other word eternity is never lasting because of reality.
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    Time is an illusion, and eternity is reality.
    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalot View Post
    Time is an illusion
    Hi shalot am I right to assume that time and illusion are one?
    if so is magic an illusion too?

    and eternity is reality.
    I agree with this.
    Eternity is not without reality.
    Would you say destiny is reality?

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    Infinity is not real, as it can not be defined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leda View Post
    Infinity is not real, as it can not be defined.
    It can be defined in a basic and ambivalent way:

    Infinite - everything your imagination can conceive, the most implausible amongst the highest orders of implausibility; it shall happen, eventually but surely it shall occur. And that is merely what one's imagination can conceive -

    "Horatio, there is more in heaven and earth than your philosophies can dream of. But that which all your philosophies have dreamt, if time is truly infinite, shall occur with as much reality as myself and you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leda View Post
    Infinity is not real, as it can not be defined.
    Ah, yes, if the human mind can't understand it, it just doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    Hi shalot am I right to assume that time and illusion are one?
    if so is magic an illusion too?


    I agree with this.
    Eternity is not without reality.
    Would you say destiny is reality?

    According to Led Zeppelin, all is one and one is all.


    If you accept that time is an illusion, then you have to consider the hows and whens of the occurrence of magic. If magic occurs within the constraints of time, then magic must also be an illusion.

    Time is an attempt to break eternity into measurable parts I guess.

    If I occur within the constraints of time, then I must be an illusion also.

    And then the last part of your post contained the question, "Would you say destiny is reality?"

    If you place destiny within the constraints of time, then I would say, that no, destiny is not reality. The person I am now, in this body that I inhabit, exists within the constraints of time, and any destiny assigned to that concept of existence would be an illusion if you accept that the concept of time is an illusion.
    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis View Post
    Ah, yes, if the human mind can't understand it, it just doesn't exist.
    exactly.. hence our limitations


    @Alexander
    Spinoza's philosophy comes to mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leda View Post
    exactly.. hence our limitations


    @Alexander
    Spinoza's philosophy comes to mind
    How do you mean by spinoza's philosophy?
    Do you mean which of that has no physical substance has no existence?
    Because spinoza was all about a god and not infinity/eternity as such.

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