Atheist Writings Repulse and Disgust Me

[miyako73]

I foam at the mouth when I read or hear someone deny the existence of God.

I grew up with nuns taking care of my elementary education and spiritual growth. Both of my grandmothers were conservative Catholic devotees. They would wake up at three in the morning to hear at least two masses recorded for the radio. They prayed the rosary five times a day and always in fifteen mysteries, which would take them three hours to recite in a monotonous tone.

I become suicidal and homicidal when someone goes on and on with his predictable dissertation that plays around semantics and circular logic just to prove God does not exist.

I am a firm believer that there is God. Believing in Him is a personal journey and experience. My life and all the chances I have gotten to survive are my proofs that Someone intelligent and powerful has made sense of my existence, my chaos, my chances composing the complexity that is me. My religion and belief in God is my background too.

Since I do not want to kill myself or someone just because of what he writes or says and be labeled a religious fundamentalist, I always force myself to ignore atheist writings and speeches, and I succeed all the time.

Atheism is not an essential knowledge to me. It is akin to deconstructionism, where nothing is really constructed but everything is denied and what make sense and seem ordered are semiotically trashed into limbo and intellectually rendered as grey, deconstructed, and, yes, confusing.

Also, anywhere I go--in liberal universities, on atheists-dominated literature forums, or at workshops peopled by existentialist artists whose inspirations run the gamut from despair to desolation--I make sure I do not impose my rabid religiosity on anyone. That is the reason why I do not want to waste my time arguing about the existence of God on this forum, besides the fact that I am too lazy to brush out the oral foam with a mint and strawberry-flavored toothpaste.

Do I complain because something repulses and disgusts me? That is not the kind of drama I want to play. I am a relativist. If a graffiti is art to Basquiat, anything can be literature. Some want to read Boccaccio's "Decameron" or Aretino's whore dialogues; should others, who want to read the Bible and Martha Stewart's ways to clean pots and pans, protest?

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Then not reading them and not arguing about it would be your best option, yet you just made a post inviting just that very thing. So, my advice would be to not complain when all the atheists come in here and tell you that you're wrong.

And aren't you complaining about something that repulses and disgusts you above?

I don't believe there is a god. If there is, he's an a-hole.

[YesNo]

I foam at the mouth when I read or hear someone deny the existence of God.
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Also, anywhere I go--in liberal universities, on atheists-dominated literature forums, or at workshops peopled by existentialist artists whose inspirations run the gamut from despair to desolation--I make sure I do not impose my rabid religiosity on anyone. That is the reason why I do not want to waste my time arguing about the existence of God on this forum, besides the fact that I am too lazy to brush out the oral foam with a mint and strawberry-flavored toothpaste.

I don't know if this is meant as a confession or a satire. If this is satire, you might want to clarify that the "I" character is not you. Of course maybe it is you. I don't know.

Someone who foams at the mouth because of what someone says on any forum, whether atheist or theist, probably needs to relax a bit. Some ways to do that is to take a walk, recite some poetry or listen to music until the hostility goes away.

[Jack of Hearts]

I don't know if this is meant as a confession or a satire. If this is satire, you might want to clarify that the "I" character is not you. Of course maybe it is you. I don't know.

Someone who foams at the mouth because of what someone says on any forum, whether atheist or theist, probably needs to relax a bit. Some ways to do that is to take a walk, recite some poetry or listen to music until the hostility goes away.

That, like many of your posts, is a well balanced response that suggests uncommon levelheadedness. Absolutely agreed.


Always a pleasure reading your remarks, YesNo.






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[The Dilettante]

It is understandable why you refuse to let go of such beliefs, seeing as you were indoctrinated at such an early youth.

I expect this thread to be closed down soon.

[Paulclem]

So where do you stand on tolerance?

You're living in a world with a multitude of beliefs that do not square with yours.

[miyako73]

I keep my close-mindedness to myself. Yes, I leave Christopher Hitchens' books alone in the public library shelf. Nobody forces me to read them. Why should I protest?

[MarkBastable]

I keep my close-mindedness to myself.

...mostly.

[paradoxical]

Meh, atheist writings mostly just bore me. I used to be an atheist myself, had a lot of atheist friends...it's such a boring outlook. The material world, and that's it. So unsatisfying.

Hinduism and Buddhism are the only religions I know of that admit there may be no God. Perhaps there isn't, but according to my perceptions - that's all, just my beliefs - I have come to believe that it's likely that something is out there. I have no proof, of course. You could say I believe in God, or rather I believe in some kind of primordial, supernatural force that is the true essence of this illusory materialist existence. But you may just as well say that you believe in God before explaining all that.

And like Paulclem said, there is a multitude of beliefs out there. You have to be tolerant as well. What if I believe in reincarnation or what if my view of God is radically different from yours?

I think atheist writers have a lot of interesting points and we should listen to them and consider what they have to say. I respect them more then fundamentalists. I just wish I didn't find it all so dull. And I'm no longer in rebellion against Christianity, like some atheist writers.

[BienvenuJDC]

So where do you stand on tolerance?

You're living in a world with a multitude of beliefs that do not square with yours.

It seems to me that atheism is quite intolerant of religion, especially being taught in school. But atheist demand that their thoughts be taught as fact.

[miyako73]

...mostly.

How did you know about my close-mindedness or intolerance to atheism. I just wrote it today. By the way, what I wrote was my response to Paulclem.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

It seems to me that atheism is quite intolerant of religion, especially being taught in school. But atheist demand that their thoughts be taught as fact.

Atheists demand, just as any level headed person does, religious or not, that facts be taught in school. If atheistic thought was taught in school, kids would be told that they shouldn't believe in God. No kids are told that, just as no kids are told that they should believe in God. It's unfortunate that some see facts as some sort of conspiracy against religion.

Plus, religion can be, and is, taught in schools. Plenty of high schools have history of religion classes, not to mention it being covered in general history classes, though those are quite different from classes that promote a certain religion, which is what most people who complain about school being "anti-religion" want. Still, I can't blame the schools who decide not to teach religion in any way, as the fear of a student, be him religious or atheist, claiming discrimination because something is taught that they disagree with, is quite legitimate.

How did you know about my close-mindedness or intolerance to atheism. I just wrote it today. By the way, what I wrote was my response to Paulclem.

Mark said mostly because he was pointing out the irony of you stating that you "keep your close-mindedness to yourself" in a post that does the exact opposite. You mostly do it, but not completely, as this post proves.


I once again must find it amusing that atheists are constantly pointed at and accused of intolerance on these forums, yet, once again, here is another thread attacking atheism.

[BienvenuJDC]

Evolution is not and never has been fact...I'm not opening that argument up again.

[miyako73]

Mark said mostly because he was pointing out the irony of you stating that you "keep your close-mindedness to yourself" in a post that does the exact opposite. You mostly do it, but not completely, as this post proves.

I can't do anything with your literal mind. Is one's expression of her belief in God intolerance? I don't think so. I have no desire to burn or tear Hitchens' books in the library. I haven't gone to atheist threads to impose my belief on non-believers. I haven't defaced artworks depicting Jesus in disrespectful ways. I haven't hacked this website to delete atheist comments and posts. Nobody forces me to read, hear, and see atheism and atheists. I have a complete control over what my mind wants to know.

I hope you'll get it this time around.

[paradoxical]

Evolution is not and never has been fact...I'm not opening that argument up again.

Well, I have to disagree with that. What do you mean evolution has never been fact?

This is part of the problem I have with those who want to teach religion in school: all the other baggage that comes with it. The bottom line is that religion should never be taught in public schools because of the division of church & state in this country. It has no business in the classroom.