View Poll Results: Rate Moneyball

Voters
4. You may not vote on this poll
  • Swing and a miss

    0 0%
  • First Base

    2 50.00%
  • Ground Rule Double

    1 25.00%
  • Sliding into Third

    0 0%
  • Going - Going - GONE

    1 25.00%
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Moneyball, by Michael Lewis

  1. #1
    running amok Sancho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    3,052

    Moneyball, by Michael Lewis

    Well then, there’s a new Brad Pitt movie out. So, in typical lit-net-geek fashion, I went right out and read the book instead of going to the movie. I’ll eventually get around to seeing the movie too, some time. But I’ll probably be disappointed, as is usually the case when I see a movie after I’ve read the book. Maybe I’ll wait for the movie to come out on Telemundo, that way at least I’ll get Spanish lesson out of the deal.

    The book is surprisingly well written for a sports book. And I say that, having no idea how well sports books are usually written, because I don’t read many books about sports. Anyway, Moneyball was a pleasure to read. It’s all about the business side, or the money side of professional baseball. It asks the question, can a team with a forty-million dollar budget compete with a team that has a two-hundred-million dollar budget, or are the poorer teams even meant to compete with the richer teams. Perhaps teams like the Oakland A’s and the Cleveland Indians are just cannon fodder for teams like the New York Yankees and the Atlanta Braves. And if that’s the case, why were the Oakland Athletics winning so many games at the beginning of the last decade?

    So mostly it’s a book about the Oakland A’s General Manager, Billy Beane, and the club’s 2001 and 2002 seasons. Beane seems to have had the uncanny ability of finding valuable players for his club that managers of the richer clubs had overlooked or written off. Baseball has been around for a while and, hence, there are some pretty established ways of looking at things – the old boy’s club. That’s the sort of complacency that opens a window of opportunity for an original thinker. When Mr. Beane scoured the farm leagues or college teams for a hot prospect to fill out his roster, he used a different set of metrics than the old-boy’s-club teams did. That would often lead to the A’s finding a good player at a bargain-basement price. It was analogous to a Wall Street trader finding a value stock.

    In a nutshell, that is what made the book so much fun to read. The author, Michael Lewis, used a lot of metaphors comparing baseball to: Wall Street, Vegas, Greek Mythology, politics, war, religion, and marriage - just to name a few. Here’s a quote from the book about the old-school general managers starting to think about hiring a few guys with thick glasses and big foreheads.

    What baseball managers did do, on occasion, beginning in the early 1980s, was hire some guy who knew how to switch on the computer. But they did this less with honest curiosity than in the spirit of a beleaguered visitor to Morocco hiring a tour guide: pay off one so that the seventy-five others will stop trying to trade you their camels for your wife. Which one you pay off is largely irrelevant. Some stat head would impress himself upon a general manager as the sort of guy who crunched numbers and the GM would find him a small office in the back.
    The metaphors, similes, and analogies all worked well on some level or another in this book and it got me thinking that baseball is a fairly good metaphor for a lot of things in life – these lit-net forums, for instance. In the book, much is made of the A’s front office thinking about baseball in new ways and, not surprisingly, there was a lot resistance. Much of the criticism of the book came from old-boy’s-club baseball commentators lining up to take potshots at Billy Beane and the Oakland A’s. That’s not so different from what I’ve seen on these forums. Let’s face it, here, as in life (or in baseball) there are only a few original thinkers. Most of what I read on these forums is simply regurgitated from a textbook somewhere, or a professor’s lecture, or the Paris Review. But every once in a while somebody comes up with something completely original (like Dr. Semmelweis did at the Vienna General Hospital in 1847) and Katy bar the door! Let the feeding frenzy begin.

    At any rate, I enjoyed this book. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I may have to read more books about sports. The Blind Side is by the same author. I hear it’s about a football player from the ghetto, and somehow Sandra Bullock is involved.
    Uhhhh...

  2. #2

    Buckle up!

    Roar!

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    3,890
    An outstanding book not only for those focusing on baseball. Ideas like this have also been applied to soccer with lots of success. Hope the movie does some justice.

  4. #4
    running amok Sancho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    3,052
    Weird, but I wound up binging on Michael Lewis books in the past two weeks. I read Liar’s Poker (it’s about Bond trading, Solomon Brothers and Wall Street in the 1980s), The Big Short (all about the sub-prime mortgage meltdown in the United States), and Boomerang (which is about the global financial meltdown).

    I’ll happily recommend any of these books.
    Uhhhh...

  5. #5
    Ecurb Ecurb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Eugene, OR
    Posts
    2,422
    The main problem with Lewis panegyric to Billy Beane is that it was basically incorrect. Although Beane's use of sabremetrics and stock-market techniques (selling players with those qualities that are over-valued on the market, and buying players with those qualities that are undervalued) was interesting, it's not what led the A's of the early 2000s to victories with a low payroll. Barry Zito, Mark Mulder and Tim Hudsen did that -- the three superb pitchers who were developed in the A's system (probably noticed by the scouts the movie dismisses as unscientific). Lewis credits Beane's methods because that's the theme of the book -- but I'll bet he's aware of the reality.

    I read "Soccernomics" which applies economic, statistical approaches to soccer, and it's entertaining and interesting.

  6. #6
    running amok Sancho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    3,052
    Now see, that's one of the things I like about this website: I get to learn new words like panegyric.
    Uhhhh...

  7. #7
    Inexplicably Undiscovered
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    next door to the lady in the vinegar bottle
    Posts
    5,089
    Blog Entries
    72
    I want to read this even more than I want to see the movie. As soon as I can swing a ride to the library, I'm going to get the book. (You should see how long the list is.)

    The questions in your poll are so amusing appropriate, Sancho! You really swung at the fences.


    PS The concept of "Sabremetrics" is a bit too complex for the likes o' me (too "inside baseball,"
    perhaps?) On the other hand, I like the concept, as well as Bill James.

    You might also like to read the other baseball writers: Thomas Boswell ("Life Begins on Opening Day," "How Life Imitates the World Series, " and the two Rogers (Kahn and Angell.) I really love George Will's elegant writing style, especially on baseball. Of course, I'm not talking about
    his political columns.



    AuntShecky
    "A louse in the locks of literature."
    Last edited by AuntShecky; 03-05-2012 at 05:40 PM.

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    810
    Saw the movie and liked it. Would read the book if I ever see it. Big baseball fan and read lots of em back in the day, though as you say ya don't need to be a big fan to enjoy the story.

  9. #9
    running amok Sancho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    3,052
    Quote Originally Posted by AuntShecky View Post
    ...You might also like to read the other baseball writers: Thomas Boswell ("Life Begins on Opening Day," "How Life Imitates the World Series, " and the two Rogers (Kahn and Angell.) I really love George Will's elegant writing style, especially on baseball. Of course, I'm not talking about
    his political columns.



    AuntShecky
    "A louse in the locks of literature."
    Auntie! I get to go to one of my favorite places in the whole world tomorrow: Powell's Books in Portland. Woo-hoo! I'll be browzing the stacks for your recommendations. Thanks.
    Uhhhh...

Similar Threads

  1. Skinned Lycra
    By redsand42 in forum Short Story Sharing
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-31-2011, 11:54 PM
  2. New Beginnings
    By Deb Hanson in forum Short Story Sharing
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 02-08-2010, 02:45 AM
  3. New Beginnings
    By Deb Hanson in forum General Writing
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-06-2010, 10:11 AM
  4. New Beginnings
    By Deb Hanson in forum Introductions
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-06-2010, 09:42 AM
  5. Pyrophobia
    By blackbelt929 in forum Short Story Sharing
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-14-2009, 09:10 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •