There is no god but man. And bravery is the saviour of man.
There is no god but man. And bravery is the saviour of man.
Well said! I second your idea unreservedlyOriginally Posted by Theunderground
Cheers! Coming from a lifelong 'believer' it took a lot of courage for me to become 'free'.
Your courage deserves a lot of applause. In fact this world is getting full of violence because of beliefs and ideologies. Men in fact do not fight the ideologies they hold do.
An interesting topic worth of examination. It is true, but it is also true that once upon a time there were just a few ideologies banking all men. And they were social catastrophes, e.g., wwii. Today is a product of the desintegration of those ideologies, substituted by thousands. It's the only possible step forward in a postnihilistic world.
The two main currents of nihilism are fighting each other. The first one occurred in the early 20th century against false values. Life lacked any sense as soon as values were discovered to be false. The other current started in the late 20th century when men did not have a basis for genuine values because they were mentally immersed in false values, they knew, but had no new alternatives.
In parallell to this, science advances and provides genuine values, but they are difficult to grasp in the midst of all the apparent chaos.
Nihilism is a very interesting subject, far more complicated than meets an untrained eye.
And chaos? Nietzsche said that all ages where there was progress were chaotic. He was correct.
I now view chaos as a prejudice against what we deem inconvenient. This is a natural situation of progress and open survival. It will slowly be overcome as science provides the vehicles and more importantly, people learn how to drive the multiplicity with healthy results. It's already happenning.
Chaos
retract
pounce
retract after pouncing
this is all you need
to keep your blood warm.
Buddha didn't say he believed in God. But the question is what did he believe in?? He was much aggrieved at the sufferings of people and devised the Eight Paths. Asoka converted to Buddhism but because his mind became devoid of chaos he lost his empire soon!! Those nations which have usually been struggling for one reason or the other are here today alive. Whereas Buddhism which took its birth in India is no more practiced in India nor it is in other places in its ORIGINAL condition which is sad. I take Buddha as a Mahatama, a great Man, perhaps not less than a Prophet. But his teachings normally teach non-chaos...surrender to 'struggle' and self-affliction which is beyond me.
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Ashoka ruled his empire for 40 years until his death and his dynasty lasted for another 50 years. Buddhism convinced him to stop expanding his empire but it in no way caused him to lose it.
Ashoka was a great king of his time. After he converted to Buddhism he gave up bloodshed hence expansionism. If he hadn't changed he would have ruled for much more years and his dynasty prevailed for centuries!
Another great King I like was Chandra Gupt Maurya...his reign is know as the Golden Age of India. Perhaps he was a good Buddhist....my salaam to his departed soul!!
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Chandra Gupta Maurya was a Vaisnava not a Buddhist.
I had said ''perhaps', Well ChandraGupt Mauriya was Hindu and one of their sects believes in Vishnu god. He was the grandfather of Ashoka, right??
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Don't confuse me with the facts.
:huh:!!
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Nihilism is for wimps and failed idealists. I think most humans instinctively value genuine relationships with other people. Even if its only with ONE person. If you only genuinely love one person then life has infinite value. If you dont love anyone,make it your mission to find someone. Man is absolutley NOT a solitary animal. Nihilism exists because folks want to be totally independent. Sorry man is a dvinity,but he is also incurably social and gregarious. Man can try his utmost to be an island but he still needs his man friday.
You are totally missing the point. Nihilism is a reaction to false values. In fact a lot of the time it is a reaction to individualistic forces that forbid the natural gregariousness of people.
You sound convincing to me
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