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    God and all

    God and all about him is a lie. If He exists, the world doesn't; and if the world doesn't exist, then He doesn't. He is quite impossible. This is a theory at any rate. I care little for myself, it's others that worry me.

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    God is the beginning
    God is the End.
    You can hear him
    In the chirp of sparrows;
    You can hear him talk
    In the silence of the desert;
    You can find Him everywhere
    Only IF you knew
    Only IF your could hear
    Only IF you could see
    Only IF you could realize
    Only IF you believed
    That there is something more
    Than YOU knew
    That there is something less
    That you've understood!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    God is the beginning
    God is the End.
    You can hear him
    In the chirp of sparrows;
    You can hear him talk
    In the silence of the desert;
    You can find Him everywhere
    Only IF you knew
    Only IF your could hear
    Only IF you could see
    Only IF you could realize
    Only IF you believed
    That there is something more
    Than YOU knew
    That there is something less
    That you've understood!!
    Beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    Beautiful.
    Thank you...

    All praise be to Him
    Who holds the reins
    Of time and space
    Who has His own ways
    Of doing things
    Who gives life
    And causes Death
    Who from barren lands
    Sparks up life
    Who from green lands
    Turns roses into dust
    Who that holds the heavens
    And All below
    Who that is Amazing
    Mysterious and full of Suspense
    He who is Magnificent and the Greatest
    Who is Kind and Merciful
    But Avenger at the same time!
    What do you call Him??
    God, Krishna, Ram or Allah??
    Whoever He may be
    By Whatever name you called Him
    He is a Rose with Thorns
    He is All Evident yet Hidden
    Who is Imperceivable
    Who is the Master of Destiny
    Creator and Destroyer
    Malign Him not.

    mazHur
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    Thank you...

    All praise be to Him
    Who holds the reins
    Of time and space
    Who has His own ways
    Of doing things
    Who gives life
    And causes Death
    Who from barren lands
    Sparks up life
    Who from green lands
    Turns roses into dust
    Who that holds the heavens
    And All below
    Who that is Amazing
    Mysterious and full of Suspense
    He who is Magnificent and the Greatest
    Who is Kind and Merciful
    But Avenger at the same time!
    What do you call Him??
    God, Krishna, Ram or Allah??
    Whoever He may be
    By Whatever name you called Him
    He is a Rose with Thorns
    He is All Evident yet Hidden
    Who is Imperceivable
    Who is the Master of Destiny
    Creator and Destroyer
    Malign Him not.

    mazHur
    And Mohammed was a man, a mere man.

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    Yes, Muhammad was a Man A Mere Man

    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    And Mohammed was a man, a mere man.

    Yes, Muhammad was a Man
    A Mere Man
    A Man among Men
    A Man
    A Man who still lives on
    In the hearts of billions
    More than any other of the Greatest Men
    Who immensely influenced this World
    Who impressed hearts in millions
    or billions.
    To be a Man, a mere Man
    Is better than to be a fickle god
    Of Mythology or of Men
    A Man who conquered
    a great many Human Hearts
    Who was like Us
    Whom a great Men won't stop praising
    Who remains the apple of a great many people
    Whom whose people(and others too)
    Consider a Man, a mere Man
    Surely he cannot be God
    To be Human and live like a Human
    And live on in the hearts of billions
    Isn't a joke
    Find me a Man like him
    And I will be his servant!!

    mazHur
    Last edited by mazHur; 05-29-2011 at 04:03 PM.
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    Man can never be God, it is too dangerous.

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    This is quite the discussion.

    I will say this though, as an atheist, I grow immensely tired of the borderline militant approach which with many of those who share the same outlook as I approach matters of religion and faith.

    Like philosophy, religious faith represents an attempt on the part of the individual to come to grips with a reality that is apparently disorderly and meaningless. While I may not ascribe to any religious faith myself, it nonetheless plays an important and essential role in the life of the individual and of that of the community. It provides people with feelings of connection and civic obligation and it encourages them to place value in things outside of their material existence. Certainly it can be problematic when taken as dogma, but so can nationalism and marxism; as shown in the rise of fascism and stalinism.

    Toleration is a virtue in and of itself, and people would gain immensely from realizing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialectic View Post
    This is quite the discussion.

    I will say this though, as an atheist, I grow immensely tired of the borderline militant approach which with many of those who share the same outlook as I approach matters of religion and faith.

    Like philosophy, religious faith represents an attempt on the part of the individual to come to grips with a reality that is apparently disorderly and meaningless. While I may not ascribe to any religious faith myself, it nonetheless plays an important and essential role in the life of the individual and of that of the community. It provides people with feelings of connection and civic obligation and it encourages them to place value in things outside of their material existence. Certainly it can be problematic when taken as dogma, but so can nationalism and marxism; as shown in the rise of fascism and stalinism.

    Toleration is a virtue in and of itself, and people would gain immensely from realizing that.
    Richard Dawkins is civil virtue in fancy dress, no-one ever said that I was decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    Man can never be God, it is too dangerous.
    God I will hate to Be
    He is too self-centred and easy-going;
    Angel I will abhor to Be
    Angels have no heart of their own!
    I am a Man and so I shall Be
    Better be a Human than anything else!
    regards
    mazHur
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    God I will hate to Be
    He is too self-centred and easy-going;
    Angel I will abhor to Be
    Angels have no heart of their own!
    I am a Man and so I shall Be
    Better be a Human than anything else!
    regards
    mazHur
    Too right, mate.

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    Without earth there can be no heaven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialectic View Post
    This is quite the discussion.

    I will say this though, as an atheist, I grow immensely tired of the borderline militant approach which with many of those who share the same outlook as I approach matters of religion and faith.

    Like philosophy, religious faith represents an attempt on the part of the individual to come to grips with a reality that is apparently disorderly and meaningless. While I may not ascribe to any religious faith myself, it nonetheless plays an important and essential role in the life of the individual and of that of the community. It provides people with feelings of connection and civic obligation and it encourages them to place value in things outside of their material existence. Certainly it can be problematic when taken as dogma, but so can nationalism and marxism; as shown in the rise of fascism and stalinism.

    Toleration is a virtue in and of itself, and people would gain immensely from realizing that.
    I think your post is shows a very fair and balanced view. The point is not perhaps whether God - (creator ultimate God) - exists in the end, but how we as humans with our differing weightings upon science, religion and personal experience deal with our fellow man as a believer or as an unbeliever.

    It's been debated on this forum a lot, and sometimes devolves into mere argument and abuse. yet the question remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atehequa View Post
    Without earth there can be no heaven
    To play the Devil's advocate for a moment: Without hell, there can be no heaven. Hey presto, Atehequa, back to normal. Well said, Atehequa, may I pinch it as it is a beauty?

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    God, Poet and Justice

    God said, 'Adam, I
    Want you to do
    Something for Me.'

    Adam said, 'Gladly,
    Lord, what do You
    Want me to do?'

    God said, 'Go down
    Into that valley.'

    Adam said, 'What's a Valley?'

    God explained it to
    Him. Then God said,
    'Cross the river.'

    Adam said, 'What's a River?'

    God explained that
    To him, and then said,
    'Go over to the hill....'

    Adam said, 'What is a
    Hill?'

    So, God explained to
    Adam what a hill was.

    He told Adam, 'On
    The other side of the
    Hill you will find a
    Cave.'

    Adam said, 'What's a
    Cave?'

    After God explained,
    He said, 'In the cave
    You will find a woman.'

    Adam said, 'What's a Woman?'

    So God explained
    That to him, too.

    Then, God said, 'I
    Want you to
    Reproduce.'

    Adam said, 'How do
    I do that?'

    God first said (under
    His breath), 'Geez.....'

    And then, just like Everything else, God Explained that to
    Adam, as well.

    So, Adam goes down
    Into the valley,

    Across the river, and
    Over the hill, into the
    Cave, and finds the
    Woman.

    Then, in about five Minutes, he was back.

    God, His patience
    Wearing thin, said
    Angrily, 'What is it
    Now?'

    And Adam said....

    *
    (YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS!!!!!!)

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    'What's a headache?'
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