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    aspiring Arthurianist Wilde woman's Avatar
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    Thoughts and questions

    I found it interesting that Lysistrata is the only (named) woman who isn't married. It also made me wonder if she's virgin, which might explain why she's the only woman who isn't going sex-crazy in the second scene. Thoughts?

    Secondly, why are the two choruses old men and women? Are we simply to believe that all the young men are off at war? Or does Aristophanes do this for comedic effect?

    Thirdly, I'm really fascinated by the representation of Peace in the final act, as a naked woman. Does anyone know of any analogues? My edition (trans. Dudley Fitts) also notes that when the play is performed, some directors choose to show Peace either as a statue or as a real live naked woman.

    Finally, for any Classicists here, how well does Lysistrata fit into the genre of Old Comedy? In Classical literature, I've only ever read New Comedy (specifically Plautus). I ask because I recently read a brief description of comedy by Frye, who emphasized the point that most comedy bring about their happy endings through the use of froda, or deceit. So it was striking to me that the women - who are usually presented as deceitful - in this play actually use forza or force to gain their end - forcibly taking over the Acropolis, actually fighting to keep the men out, and physically denying men access to their bodies. Obviously, Aristophanes was showing how the women usurp traditional male roles by doing this, but it just struck me as a particularly bald inversion of Frye's definitions. Perhaps he was only referring to New Comedy?
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    confidentially pleased cacian's Avatar
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    Hi Wilde woman
    Very interesting questions.
    I am new to this story Lysistrata
    How do you pronounce Lysistrata?

    Also this here:

    There are a lot of things about us women
    That sadden me, considering how men
    See us as rascals.
    As indeed we are!
    I find this quote a bit contradicitive
    one on a one hand Lysistrata she is complaining and on the other hand she is admitting she and her friend that they are 'rascals'.
    What do you think?
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    it fly

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