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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokasenna View Post
    Well, he's pretty much retired now, but Sir Thomas Allen has been one of the finest classical baritones of the last generation - he's a famous opera star. Have a look at his entry on wikipedia.

    Here's another nice piece of his, singing one of John Ireland's songs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQEuIBzuNk
    I think I saw him sing Mahler's Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen at the Royal Festival Hall some years ago. He was certainly one of the top line British singers in his day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokasenna View Post
    Well, he's pretty much retired now, but Sir Thomas Allen has been one of the finest classical baritones of the last generation - he's a famous opera star. Have a look at his entry on wikipedia.

    Here's another nice piece of his, singing one of John Ireland's songs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQEuIBzuNk
    Wow. So, is being Chancelor his pastime, then?

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    I'm still obsessed with Wagner. Mozart too, but mostly Wagner. Such a fascinating personality. So many positives and negatives. A great victor and great victim.......victor in the realm of art......victim in the realm of ideology. I can't get enough of Wagner. I love him and hate him and his music quite simply puts me on fire. That Tristan und Isolde prelude rattles me like nothing else. To me its better than drugs or sex. Lohengrin is amazing too. I love all his stuff. I love listening and watching and just absorbing the immense breadth of his art. There is so much to it. Its medieval, its Christian, its archaic, its modern, its so chalk full of paradox and power.

    Anyway. If you can't tell......I am into Wagner. The good and the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis View Post
    Wow. So, is being Chancelor his pastime, then?
    I suppose you could say that!

    It's really only a figurehead postion given to someone as an honour by the University, but some Chancellors take their role seriously and are very active - I'm glad to say Sir Thomas is so far proving to be one of the good ones!
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    Clint Mansell's Requiem Song

    Half the time I'm conscious I have this tune buzzing my head. I find its a good one, really sets the mood for half the things I do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSY4Yi2ypno

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    Now this was absolutely delicious... and oh so fun!



    An absolutely irreverent and outlandish retelling of the Orpheus and Euridice tale... complete with parodies of Gluck's famous aria, Che farò senza Euridice? from his opera, Orfeo ed Euridice...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HuxJEfsxeI

    an absurd "seduction" scene in which Zeus takes the form of a fly...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi6SDINpeTw

    and of course the famous can-can:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38lIfgWIg8o

    As Jules Noriac wrote in the review in Le Figaro, the day after the premier:

    "Unheard of,
    Splendid,
    Outrageous,
    Graceful,
    Charming,
    Witty,
    Amusing,
    Successful,
    Perfect,
    Melodius.

    If despite all that you are not entranced by Orphée, you have only yourself to blame...
    "

    All I might add to Noriac's list is the word "naughty"... for the work is surely a bit "naughty"... sexy... is the manner of fin de siecle Paris. I will most certainly be picking up Minkowski's other performances of Offenbach's operettas:





    Beside which... I gotta admire Offenbach simply for his ability to have pissed off Wagner. Much as I love Wagner, I gotta wish that he could have loosened up now an then and given us something as absurd as Orphée aux Enfers.
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    I recently listened to La Belle Helene. While I don't think it's as good as Orféo, the music is very playful, and enjoyable. It seems to be more a satire on the opera form than anything else.
    I wrote a poem on a leaf and it blew away...

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    Which "Helen" opera is it a parody of? Gluck again (Paride ed Elena)? Or simply the entire Helen of Troy narrative? Strauss has a Helen opera as well, Die Ägyptische Helena. It was initially intended as a comedy but then became a tragedy... and tragic it is... tragically bad. Perhaps the worst libretto ever penned... which is a loss considering that Strauss wrote some rather lovely music for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stlukesguild View Post
    Which "Helen" opera is it a parody of? Gluck again (Paride ed Elena)? Or simply the entire Helen of Troy narrative? Strauss has a Helen opera as well, Die Ägyptische Helena. It was initially intended as a comedy but then became a tragedy... and tragic it is... tragically bad. Perhaps the worst libretto ever penned... which is a loss considering that Strauss wrote some rather lovely music for it.
    Gluck's, given the late Baroque tropes
    I wrote a poem on a leaf and it blew away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Half the time I'm conscious I have this tune buzzing my head. I find its a good one, really sets the mood for half the things I do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSY4Yi2ypno
    Love this, so so so much!!
    So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past - The Great Gatsby

    Give every man thine ear, but few thy voice - Polonius (Hamlet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stlukesguild View Post
    Nice to watch western civilisation in it's darkest hour striking back against the trash merchants of post WWII, although the baton has already been passed on to the orientals who are the future and not only in music.
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    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    More of Emil's imitations of Henny Penny/Chicken Little.
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    Poor Emil will probably slit his wrists when he comes to fully realize that the non-Western cultures are quickly absorbing all he most "loves" about Western popular culture and are far from being some last bastion of an illusory "high culture" and sophistication:











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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKxebYpt95Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuF2tNl-nRQ

    Emil's living in an "Oriental" fantasy that is about as real as the orientalist fantasies of 19th century painters and writers.
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    As I recall it, Chicken Lilttle thought the world was collapsing because an acorn fell on her head. It's interesting to note that Western administrations, of whatever complexion, consider the economic meltdown in the US and Europe and China's enormous economic strength to be somewhat larger than an acorn.
    On those occasions when I have been in China, I have noticed Western meretriciousness but on nothing like the scale that Europe has absorbed since WWII and it's important to remember that China has a form of government that will, when it suits them, eradicate it because mass produced decadence, no matter how profitable in the short term, runs contrary to their long term objectives.
    Moreover, as China's economic and military power increases, other countries in the region will inevitably come under its sway and it's likely that Western excess will decline as traditional values begin to reassert themselves.
    In short, they will keep what's best of Western civilisation and ditch the rest.
    Last edited by Emil Miller; 07-22-2012 at 12:43 PM.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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