View Poll Results: The Man of Steel, or the Dark Knight???

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  • Superman aka Clark Kent aka Kal-El aka The Man of Steel etc.

    52 26.13%
  • Batman aka Bruce Wayne aka The Dark Knight

    147 73.87%
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  1. #46
    dancing before the storms baddad's Avatar
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    Why is Elton John so happy? Why is he gay? Is there a party?

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    ROFLMAO

    there's a party alrite...you're welcome to join dad..
    And I don't know why...


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    Elton John, the man of the large multi-coloured glasses. You can't fault a person for being happy though, jealousy is the only obstacle. But he is fricken ridiculous.

    And Batman just looks funny with his bat ears. But then who wants to be a goody two shoes like Clark Kent.

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    I see that the Man of Steel's fan club is loosing this poll quite badly.........maybe if he didn't wear his pajamas in public he'd present a better persona......

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    Oh public popularity is so shallow for a real hero


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    I hate them both... But Superman sounds less awfull...

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    Does anyone else notice that an alarming amount of super heroes were their undies outside thier tights !!! Superman and early batman included.
    ...Also baby duck hat would be good for parties.

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    Now The Tick......thats a superhero. and not a stitch of underwear showing.
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    Spooooooon!!!!!!!
    ...Also baby duck hat would be good for parties.

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    Easy, Superman.

    Superman is flawless and that is what we should aspire to be. He has made the ultimate sacrifice and died for a race that is not his own (eventually resurrected). With his powers he could have considered himself godlike and been a self declared dictator. He is probably the most selfless fictional character ever written. His powers are only used to benefit others and not himself. As Clark Kent he could have cut many corners to get ahead in life, especially in his pursuit of Lois, but he does not. Sure the Dark Knight has appeal with his whole dark gothic thing and having no super human abilities but Superman is the ideal superhero. Besides, Supermans origin is of comsic proportions. He is the last survivor of an alien race arriving to earth on a space ship wrapped in his cape. It just so happens that earth is the only planet where Superman is Superman because he draws his power from earths son, coincidence? Superman was sent to be earths protector. Not to belittle Batman but his origin is from holding a grudge because someone killed his parents. Cliche revenge do gooder plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumpweed
    Superman is flawless and that is what we should aspire to be. He has made the ultimate sacrifice and died for a race that is not his own (eventually resurrected).
    Err, if he's flawless, how could he be killed? It was his murderer the one who was flawless. Now, if you consider a broad definition of what is supposed to be flawless (i.e. not only powers), then he definitely isn't, because despite his powers, he behaves just like any other human being. The same emotions, the same virtues, the same miseries.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumpweed
    Sure the Dark Knight has appeal with his whole dark gothic thing and having no super human abilities but Superman is the ideal superhero. Besides, Supermans origin is of comsic proportions. He is the last survivor of an alien race arriving to earth on a space ship wrapped in his cape. It just so happens that earth is the only planet where Superman is Superman because he draws his power from earths son, coincidence? Superman was sent to be earths protector. Not to belittle Batman but his origin is from holding a grudge because someone killed his parents. Cliche revenge do gooder plot.
    I don't think Superman is the ideal superhero. As far as I can tell, Superman stands for the law (remember his encounters with Lex Luthor and how they usually end?), while Batman stands for justice. IMO, law without justice is meaningless. This idea is emphasized on Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, a fine read.
    Your take on Batman's origins is not that farfetched, but your take on Superman's is. He wasn't sent to be earth's protector, he simply crashed here. Of course, this differs, as his origin has been told zillions of time (by Siegel/Shuster, Marv wolfman, Karl Kesel, and many others), but that fact remains. Anyway, if you ask me, Superman is probably just another way of portraying an idealized view of the united states, of the so called "american dream". Portrayed as beacon of justice, Superman was a great way to push forward the propaganda that north america stood for liberty, democracy, and all that stuff. He works in the Daily Planet (thus, allegedly representing freedom of speech), where he meets a succesful journalist woman in Lois Lane (showing women's access and exit to jobs); he is the prototipe male, capable of incredible strength and a ridiculous level of naivety; and he's the protector of Metropolis, a single, small city which is supposed to represent the whole country. The comic of Superman shows a set of values and rules and an outlook on life based purely in an occidental capitalist view. The costume he wears, full of colors, makes him very distinguished, very easy to note, and the symbol complements the packed image. A similar analogy can be found in Marvel's Captain America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumpweed
    Superman is flawless and that is what we should aspire to be.
    Superman, and flawlessness are unattainable. If you aspire to be flawless you will live a life of disappointment.
    He is probably the most selfless fictional character ever written. His powers are only used to benefit others and not himself. As Clark Kent he could have cut many corners to get ahead in life, especially in his pursuit of Lois, but he does not.
    What about the whole Conduit ordeal? Conduit was a boyhood friend of Clark's and WOULD have been the star athlete, most popular, big-man-on-campus at Smallville high, except Clark was. (Superman #100, I think) And you forget that all along it wasn't Clark that was persuing Lois. All through the late seventies/early eighties Superman was messing around with Wonder Woman. It was Lois who was always love-sick after Superman, not Clark. It wasn't until Man of Steel #1 that Clark came around and starting getting interested in Lois and that quickly blossomed into a relationship. But He didn't have the long pursuit after Lois, like that horrible TV series 'Lois & Clark' portrayed.

    Sure the Dark Knight has appeal with his whole dark gothic thing and having no super human abilities but Superman is the ideal superhero. Besides, Supermans origin is of comsic proportions. He is the last survivor of an alien race arriving to earth on a space ship wrapped in his cape. It just so happens that earth is the only planet where Superman is Superman because he draws his power from earths son, coincidence? Superman was sent to be earths protector.
    Actually Superman is Super on ALOT of planets, just not on Krypton, which we don't even know for sure because he's never been there, its destroyed, remember? But Superman has used his powers on war-world, and in deep space, through intergalactical wormholes, far far away from earth's sun. That theory is a relic from the Action Comics #1 days. Once DC got more in-depth with Supe's physics etc... they abandoned that idea.
    ...Also baby duck hat would be good for parties.

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    One must carefully weigh each word expressed in this forum for fear of being taken literally with each. I love that ..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by baddad
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    If it was good enough for Derrida...
    ...Also baby duck hat would be good for parties.

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