Like on the easter or in christmas, why do we replace something else other than Jesus on those days? Marketing?
Like on the easter or in christmas, why do we replace something else other than Jesus on those days? Marketing?
But first of all, Christmas and Easter replaced pagan celebrations first, when much of Europe converted to Christianity. And on a strange reverse of fortune, secularism and separation of church and consumerism arose the need to create or reinvent other holiday icons under pressure from non-Christian citizens.
Put rather flippantly, I didn't want to bother to google some of this information.
the rise of non-christians fits very well.
But the quote of Jesus is unknown: " there was a plower who sow his seed. Some fell in stoney ground but was eaten by the birds: the hears listen for a while and turns away. Some fell in vines but the roots were choke because of the desires of hearers. And some feel in good soil, and they persist until they bear fruit"
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Dan, re: your first question about Easter, the short answer is "yes".
Also, bunnies (rabbits) -rapid breeders; and (Easter) eggs - are associated with (surprise) fertility.
Easter -> Spring -> old fertility festivals preceding Christian festivals, etc.
As everyone else has said Easter replaced a pagan rfestival on the day of the Spring equinox, which changes date every year. it was a festival celebrating the rebirth and fertility of the land and the return of light. Oddly enough Easter celebrate the rebirth of Christ and the return of the light.
It is a known fact that many christian occasions are based on pagan ones. They even made pagan deities christian saints. St Brigit is an example of this.
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I guess e conclusion it was a concidence?
We celebrate spring, or the beginning of life and just so it happens to be easter sunday where christ rose from the dead. You guys are very poor buisnessmen.
If I was a buissnessmen, I will look at the population and statistics on that day of festivial and I will manipulate it and turning it into something else, the celebration will become different. I will do promotion and avertisement.
DADA the low intelligent minds of chrisitians have been manipulated. Now the world has became wise as a serpent it is hard to manipulate. But their gentleness as a dove once when they were chrisitians has become lion property hungry.
Well I would have to say The same as everyone else, the reasoning for what you call "the replacement" has to do with the belief of other countries, and religions. Don't you think that the Church decided these days on prupose? It's not just a clever marketing stragety by big buisness, it's also a clever stragety created by the Church.
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yes exactly! It wasnt a coincedence. it was infact purposely done to convert pagans to the religion. basicly saying " look we have the same festivals but we call them feast days! And we also have all your gods rolled into one."Originally Posted by Rinas_Jaded
easter-spring equinox
Christmas- was origionally mid winter (now 25th)
May day(feast of mary)- i think was Bealtaine
best example is holloween(all hallows)- now the feast of all saints.
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W.B.Yeats
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Hummtake egypt there the original pharonic holiday is still celebrated and it falls on the monday of the Coptic easter. Actually this year both easters fell at the same time which is very very rare but Im diverting.
Basically the holidays were already there and people like routine, so whats the harm in letting them chose any old day to celcbrate somthing, none really.
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Does capitalism make capitalist intelligent or dumb? Dumb meaning farther away from the source and truth, assume there is?
Because, people don't care as much about Jesus as they do about chocolate. Personally, I wait a week for the chocolate to go on sale before buying it. Though I don't believe in Jesus being resurrected, or the idea that he even died on that day (though the orthodox have a more accurate date).
Somewhat unrelated but...
Perhaps, but I have reason to believe that the egg "tradition" may also have its roots in a legend telling of Mary Magdalene's visit to Emporer Tiberias post-resurrection. As it goes, Mary Magdalene brought an egg to the emporer as a symbol of Christ's ressurection. Upon hearing her account, Tiberias claimed that "no one could rise from the dead, anymore than the egg [she] held could turn red." And as he spoke the egg, miraculously, turned red bearing divine proof of her claim. (www.thenazareneway.com)
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No i think there was something in one of the pagan religions regarding eggs. Not sure which one though.
"Come away O human child!To the waters of the wild, With a faery hand in hand, For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand."
W.B.Yeats
"If it looks like a Dwarf and smells like a Dwarf, then it's probably a Dwarf (or a latrine wearing dungarees)"
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I this this poster after my previous.
That is true to the extent of I love chocalates more. They don't care about jesus because they don't care about themselves. Because they do not care about themselves they do not care about anyone else. So how can they care about JEsus or care for themselves if they are like John Rawls would say in " veil of ignorance' ???
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