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    KvG: Letīs see what can be done:

    The Kiss in the Dream (1805)
    1
    01 A kiss breathed life into me,
    02 Calming my breastīs deepest yearning,
    03 Come darkness! surround me with nightly intimacy,
    04 That my lips may suck fresh bliss.

    2
    05 Immersed in dreams was this life,
    06 So I live to contemplate dreams forever,
    07 Despising the allure of all other pleasures
    08 Because only the night breathes such sweet balsam.

    3
    09 The day is barren of loving delights,
    10 Iīm hurt by itīs vain display of light
    11 And consumed by the glowing sun.
    12 Therefore, my eyes, shun the splendor of earthly suns!
    13 Wrap yourself in night, she assuages your desire,
    14 And heals the pain, as Lethes cool flood.

    MS-I liked her descriptive war poem

    Sara Teasdale
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Teasdale

    Marianna Alcoforando

    (The Portuguese Nun—1640-1723)

    The sparrows wake beneath the convent eaves;
    I think I have not slept the whole night through.
    But I am old; the aged scarcely know
    The times they wake and sleep, for life burns down;
    They breathe the calm of death before they die.
    The long night ends, the day comes creeping in,
    Showing the sorrows that the darkness hid,
    The bended head of Christ, the blood, the thorns,
    The wall's gray stains of damp, the pallet bed
    Where little Sister Marta dreams of saints,
    Waking with arms outstretched imploringly
    That seek to stay a vision's vanishing.
    I never had a vision, yet for me
    Our Lady smiled while all the convent slept
    One winter midnight hushed around with snow—
    I thought she might be kinder than the rest,
    And so I came to kneel before her feet,
    Sick with love's sorrow and love's bitterness.
    But when I would have made the blessed sign,
    I found the water frozen in the font,
    And touched but ice within the carved stone.
    The saints had hid themselves away from me,
    Leaving the windows black against the night;
    And when I sank upon the altar steps,
    Before the Virgin Mother and her Child,
    The last, pale, low-burnt taper flickered out,
    But in the darkness, smooth and fathomless,
    Still twinkled like a star the holy lamp
    That cast a dusky glow upon her face.
    Then through the numbing cold peace fell on me,
    Submission and the gracious gift of tears,
    For when I looked, Oh! blessed miracle,
    Her lips had parted and Our Lady smiled!
    And then I knew that Love is worth its pain
    And that my heart was richer for his sake,
    Since lack of love is bitterest of all.

    The day is broad awake—the first long beam
    Of level sun finds Sister Marta's face,
    And trembling there it lights a timid smile
    Upon the lips that say so many prayers,
    And have no words for hate and none for love.
    But when she passes where her prayers have gone,
    Will God not smile a little sadly then,
    And send her back with gentle words to earth
    That she may hold a child against her breast
    And feel its little hands upon her hair?
    We weep before the Blessed Mother's shrine,
    To think upon her sorrows, but her joys
    What nun could ever know a tithing of?
    The precious hours she watched above His sleep
    Were worth the fearful anguish of the end.
    Yea, lack of love is bitterest of all;
    Yet I have felt what thing it is to know
    One thought forever, sleeping or awake;
    To say one name whose sweetness grows so strange
    That it might work a spell on those who weep;
    To feel the weight of love upon my heart
    So heavy that the blood can scarcely flow.
    Love comes to some unlooked-for, quietly,
    As when at twilight, with a soft surprise,
    We see the new-born crescent in the blue;
    And unto others love is planet-like,
    A cold and placid gleam that wavers not,
    And there are those who wait the call of love
    Expectant of his coming, as we watch
    To see the east grow pallid ere the moon
    Lifts up her flower-like head against the night.
    Love came to me as comes a cruel sun,
    That on some rain-drenched morning, when the leaves
    Are bowed beneath their clinging weight of drops,
    Tears through the mist, and burns with fervent heat
    The tender grasses and the meadow flowers;
    Then suddenly the heavy clouds close in
    And through the dark the thunder's muttering
    Is drowned amid the dashing of the rain.

    But I have seen my day grow calm again.
    The sun sets slowly on a peaceful world,
    And sheds a quiet light across the fields.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/400
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    KvG: I Like what you have done with her poem. My further interpretation:

    The Kiss in the Dream (1805)/Interpretation

    1
    01 A kiss breathed life into me,
    02 Calming my breast's deepest yearning,
    03 Come darkness! enfold me with your nightly embrace,
    04 That my lips may inhale fresh bliss.

    2
    05 Obsession with dreams was my life,
    06 So I lived to contemplate dreams forever,
    07 Despising the allure of all other pleasures
    08 Because only night breathes such sweet balsam.

    3
    09 The day is barren of loving delights,
    10 Iīm hurt by itīs bright vain display
    11 And consumed by the fiery sun.
    12 Therefore, my eyes, shun the splendor of earthly flame !
    13 Envelope yourself in the night, she assuages your desire,
    14 And heals the pain, as Lethe's cool waters.

    ST: (revisited)I enjoyed these verses:
    And when I sank upon the altar steps,
    Before the Virgin Mother and her Child,
    The last, pale, low-burnt taper flickered out,
    But in the darkness, smooth and fathomless,
    Still twinkled like a star the holy lamp
    That cast a dusky glow upon her face.
    Then through the numbing cold peace fell on me,
    Submission and the gracious gift of tears,
    For when I looked, Oh! blessed miracle,
    Her lips had parted and Our Lady smiled!
    And then I knew that Love is worth its pain
    And that my heart was richer for his sake,
    Since lack of love is bitterest of all.
    Mariana Alcoforado must be the poem's namesake (last name slightly different)... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Alcoforado


    Thomas Lodge... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lodge

    https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-...-with-showers/
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    KvG: I liked all your improvements, the poem at last "sounds" natural in English. I am only in doubt about the word "Obsession"(line 5). I havenīt the feeling that for her being immersed in dreams was perceived as an obsession. And it is a word of later times.

    TL-Why he came to Brazil probably to:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhabela
    Inspired Shakespeare, poem somewhat sad though


    Laura Cardoso
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Cardoso

    https://www.google.com.br/search?q=l...HBrLmiquchXPM:
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    KvG: re: obsession - will give it further thought. TL in Brasil, looting ? or enjoying the view ? LC: One of your favorite soap stars ?

    Charles Keating... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating_(actor) I used to watch the soaps with my wife once in a while when there was a 24/7 Soap Opera channel that she liked.
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    ST-You are right,tS,the name is "Marianna Alcoforado" I donīt know who made the mistake. Fictional or not, The Portuguese Letters are considered a literary work.
    TL in Brazil possibly loothing and fighting.

    LC-Played also in films and the theater.Was very ill recently, but then she finished the soapy with her 89 years.
    CK-!he Royal Shakespeare Company says all


    Keanna Reeves
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keanna_Reeves
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    KR: Keanu Reeves derivation/clever.

    Ruben Gonzaga... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gNICWKE5Ho

    I'm not sure, but I think this is like "The Hunger Games".
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    Here in Brazil it is very silly. But yes they have to eliminate each other to get the prize money.

    Greta Garbo (born on the same day as I)
    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Garbo
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    GG: Wonderfully complex. Noticed the pt. and en. versions of wikipedia are a bit different in content. You're lucky, I share my birthday with Mickey Mouse... Yours is also a day before my daughter's birthday.

    George O'Brien... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_O%27Brien_(actor)
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    GG:Lol! Do you read Portuguese, now? But you are right, they are quite different. I think it depends who writes them, wikipedia is a curious territory. Some of these versions are just translations of an original in other languages.
    Anyway sharing a birthday with Mickey seems to be more fun than with GG.

    G 0'Brian-Interesting career. Must have seen him in one of these old films

    Brigitte Bardot:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot
    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot
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    (No, no Portuguese language ability... page translations help a little, though in my attempt for BB "his" and "her" are annoyingly interchanged in another pt. page, and the other slip ups that translation usually brings.) BB: A tour de force that I hadn't fully realized before: actress/singer/writer/activist. Strong ties to Brazil as well.

    Barbra Streisand... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbra_Streisand

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8...or-Design.html
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    Itīs because in Pt. itīs the same pronoum.The context must be very clear or you get confused even in Portuguese.
    BS-I used to like her films. But it seems she turned into a Madam now.But still something of a girl that won in the lotery


    Sidney Poitier
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Poitier
    (the Portuguese version is a stump)
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    SP: The last movie I saw him in was "The Jackal" many years ago. Very durable actor and quite accomplished.

    Peter Ustinov... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ustinov
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    PU-I knew he was a writer only

    Uma Thurman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uma_Thurman
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    TM: Interesting writer. I want to read at least "A pair of blue eyes"

    Machado de Assis
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    http://www.antoniomiranda.com.br/poe..._de_assis.html
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