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    Commented "the third wave socialism" to be allowed to rest

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    Author: Yewei http://www.pen123.net.cn 2003-3-31 10:24:56 gentleman cypress consultation network

    Commented "the third wave socialism" to be allowed to rest
    I to "third wave socialism" the long and short of the story are not really clear, did not know who is its lead goat, in this 1. on I has no intention to gives own ignorantly performs to conceal. Read until recently me on March 8 ctk3 several to paste at the Beijing University forum article, really felt its bored and was fabricated, in order to did not treat unjustly the good person, I especially oppressed record I impression - - was I tread several feet in its article viewpoint.
    What (1) they ' the socialism ' is the definition?
    I look over know the original article, saw he is like this to ' him ' ' the socialism ' gives the definition: I believed that, the so-called socialism essence may decide as, "establishment in public ownership system foundation happy society." (Picks its net article: The socialism origin, the development and the result), I unable to restrain to smile, such socialism we early already the body in among, Mr. He Laochih original again was an our generation, racks one's brains, careworn takes the trouble?
    A socialism definition or said it "the essence" sees clearly with a human society, traces does not permit "happily" the adjective to summarize, really some slippery worlds greatly check, Marx conceives the socialism is unhappy? Mao Zedong establishes the socialism is unhappy? Not all is the establishment in the public ownership system? Moreover if only discusses the society whether happy, the present person as if only thought the western society is more beautiful many, then knows original gentleman already the strong only ancient (Marx) the theory, also cannot surmount (overseas) to the reality the level, by what uses? Even if pastes the label is again good, also only is talks idly to mess things up, and what is more to injure the country.
    What (2) they ' the socialism ' is the content?
    We have a look to know the original gentleman's another article concluding remark: ' The third wave socialism on the one hand should unifies the system construction socialism and the historical proof socialism, on the other hand is must abandon in the socialism the egalitarianism ingredient, develops the socialism and establishes the socialism which into the ability rules a nation. If the socialism has completed these two big tasks, then the socialism inevitably in the near future will be able to realize!' - - This section of writing both let me feel the body in the socialism, and feels the body outside the socialism, therefore I did not know at a loss in where! Whether do I guess like this ??: Because we now even if do not have ' to abandon in the socialism the egalitarianism ingredient ', also has not realized ' the ability to rule a nation ', but also is ' the socialism ', therefore, we easely stand in the socialism; Also because we now do not have ' to abandon in the socialism the egalitarianism ingredient ', also has not realized ' the ability to rule a nation ', therefore we can not but stand outside the socialism - - because they ' the socialism (only will be) inevitably in the near future can realize '!
    I have no alternative but inexplicable to be amazed for this! Looked like ' old is gruff ' the network logic knowledge should give certain people has made up, whether he was willing to make up this is his young matter, because this was insufficient to affect me to its understanding level: Their socialism content is ' abandons the socialism the egalitarianism, the realization ' the ability rules a nation ' or ' the system construction ' for heart thought.
    So mentions below, I have the question: First, our country at present is the social system take the public ownership system as the foundation socialist system? Second, our country at present "more pay for more work" distribution system whether still was (they) ' the socialism ' egalitarianism? And by far has not implemented them ' the socialism ' more pay for more work? Third, whether may say our country at present the government official, the head of undertaking and these capitalists all do not have the ability - - at least are do not have these our country not in the leadership post, not when boss's person has the ability! Otherwise, if they (government official, head of undertaking) has the ability, is outstanding, then our country is rules a nation in the implementation ability! Why bother lets know original gentleman to discuss again the ability rules a nation? If they really have not ruled a nation the ability, I did not know what will know original gentleman "to rule a nation the ability" to refer to taste?
    First and the second question I originally did not want to do answered - - because our country blotted out the sky the propaganda article has already solved these two problems in several years ago. But knows the original gentleman's public ownership system really some "the communist altogether wife" everybody if does not believe please looked "if looks at the public ownership system from this kind of angle, we discovered socialist countries and so on former Soviet Union and China have not certainly realized in the true significance public ownership system. Because, these countries all have the property right of inheritance. But only has realized the producer goods state-owned system "this section of speech, a person has created the wealth, cannot remain for the children, cannot give the person which oneself wants to grant, I did not know how he will realize such dream, the humanity pursues own development the power will be what? If continually these most minimum general knowledge did not know, whether compares (him to think Marx is fantasy) Marx ' the fantasy ' also Marx?
    Actually, who doesn't take into consideration realistically writes article to be able, do the vast ????how many thousand words, need to wait for the society for me which lives to open the salvation effective prescription, after if the effective prescription opens, but is some person of blood steamed bun and so on gadget, not only does not treat an illness, is actually difficult to look very much, did not know is its medical skill is limited, or I wait to be terminally ill, only can give the comforts formula and so on, after can barely manage to maintain a feeble existence but already?
    If we thoroughly thought again, we are not difficult to discover, so-called "the blood relationship rules a nation" although from Xia Ch'ishih, but each generation of emperor is old also all wants bequeaths own landscape most has ' the ability ' the son, good lets the landscape pass on from generation to generation; Similarly, each family, also is not willing own property rights to give the black sheep of the family, how our country successive dynasties all previous dynasties still was the country not the country, the family rich only five generations? Moreover our country five generation of countries galloping-horse lanterns trade emperor - - the example which whether is knows which original gentleman to esteem the ability rules a nation? If these questions, merely sums up for is because ' the blood relationship rules a nation ' and ' the ability rules a nation ' the different consequence, high deliberately mispresents with Zhao, or confuses one for the other differently what? I believed that, their intention only is wants to mislead the public, covers our country social fact truth!
    What is the our country society realistic truth? The our country society realistic truth is does not acknowledge "individual private power" the existence! Regardless of is feudal society's king military and political leaders, or present socialism society, all over the world, is it possible that king earth, but Wang Hsingk'o changes, Wang Ch'uankuei who? In our country history is because may result in, who doesn't want to kill and torch? Because seizes by force may become, who doesn't want to change from one dynasty to another? If we look at the history, merely saw politics Pure Brightness the time, individual private power is how consolidated, but the blind political power chaotic date, the land, how the wealth are evolves, for reads person of in vain the history! The people, we actually all want to attain without effort, therefore did not acknowledge individual private power - - this is takes root in our country nationality's most despicable cultural courage and uprightness, has a look, from the king to the common people common people, how many people has to acknowledge the other people ' individual private power ' but not to think "gains the small advantage"? - - For example, confiscates family's property to exterminate the clan, to work for one's own interests under the guise of working for the public, pretends, the false diploma, the vacation spuriously... ... Even our present, because own do not have the thought, the theory, actually takes (gains) the overseas ready-made thought, the theory dodges the people - - also no matter suits our country national condition; In develops in our country economy national policy: purchases the munitions, introduces the production line... ... Such matter not all is the people in from the innermost feelings thought "gains" the western nation "to be cheap"! What a pity very much, excessively relies on is equal to the attachment, "is cheap" has not gained how many, but actually the national total output value must rely on "100 hundred million pair of pants to trade a Boeing" the type exportation to support! Simultaneously the country also did not have ' the Yalu River ' again, ' the Zhenbao Island ' anger!

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    I certainly am not must want the national in here to have any "the anger", at least publicizes 1. nationals originally are less much "relies on one's own effort to revive" the spirit also to be allowed! Why now did we say has not not had?
    (3) they ' the socialism ' has solves the our country question concrete means?
    Because of them ' socialism ' not in the least fresh idea, therefore is bored; Because of them ' socialism ' not in the least regulation, therefore is fabricated. I take a look at ' the socialism ' the article, often is has a strong beginning but a weak ending - - take historical personage's theory as its end, also take the sensational slogan as the ending, middle very little has to the realistic question analysis, even if has the analysis, also does not have the concrete countermeasure, actually fills Great Cultural Revolution's -like theory to deduce!
    What is the our country realistic question? I extract as follows: "People's net Beijing on February 26 news by Li Tzuchuan On January 23, the people's net revealed the position in the main page to promote by "in 2003 a session of National People's Congress conference, what did you pay attention to? "For the topic on-line investigation, receives the widespread attention. The closure on February 25, altogether has 20 ten thousand to vote selects this year National People's Congress most to receive pays attention to the major problem.
    The investigation demonstrated that, So far, arranges in order most to pay attention to in front of the question the position distinction is
    "Thoroughly carries out the counter-corruption struggle, strengthens to the authority restriction and the surveillance";
    "The advancement judicature organizational reform, safeguards in the entire society realizes fair and is just";
    "The perfect democratic system, the rich democratic form, expands the male privately owned foreword the political participation";
    "Advancement legally administration, deepening administration organizational reform";
    "Expands the employment by any means possible, progressive improvement lives of the people";
    "The establishment perfect social security system, reasonably determines the safeguard standard and the level";
    "Reform and consummation party leader's way and ruling way";
    "The comprehensive prosperous rural economy, speeds up the cities advancement";
    "The strengthening safety in production, the containment significant especially big accident occurs";
    "Grows strong the state economy, encourages, to support the non- public ownership system economy development". ... ... "
    These questions I did not know what regulation ' the socialism ' does have or may solve with (at least is suggestion)? I acknowledged I also do not have, but I very want certainly to believe, a their final conclusion, if the implementation socialism comprehensive planned economy, the above question certainly can be solved!
    Don't I want not to be able to pass with who, - - we certainly are not have not implemented the socialism comprehensive planned economy! I merely discovered people (20 ten thousand for card) the political intelligence is such low: "Thoroughly carries out the counter-corruption struggle, strengthens work - - government which who is should do to the authority restriction and the surveillance" (official); But the counter-corruption, who in is corrupt? Who also has to restrict? Who has to supervise? - - Still is the government (official)! If identical person left hand and right hand matter, even if we insert a foot, is useful? Corrupt, why has the corruption? If the wealth is you, you can let its corrupt your wealth? If the power unables to hold out any longer matches the extremely easy to obtain national resources, they are how corrupt?
    "The advancement judicature organizational reform, safeguards in the entire society realizes fair and is just", "the perfect democratic system, the rich democratic form, expands the male privately owned foreword the political participation", "the advancement legally administration, the deepening administration organizational reform"; - - Is the work which who should do? - - Government; Why "fair and is just" cannot realize in the entire society? Who has prevented "fair and is just" in the entire society's realization? - - I want similarly to be the government and the government order! But the similar such slogan shouted how many years, have permanently cured?
    This time I want to ask the third wave socialist, in front of such reality, initiates the third wave socialism whether can solve the our country above these problems? Knows original gentleman to be supposed to recommend several "the quality" the high person, governs the country!
    If can solve, already solved! Is more correct than which which a most incompetent statesman the solution way which adopts in front of the realistic question also when meets similar question obtained arrives a most intelligent theoretician the books conclusion comes!
    I did not believe present the statesmen have not all ruled a nation the ability, also did not believe the deviation human nature system construction is all! Looks:
    "Expands the employment by any means possible, the progressive improvement lives of the people" "the establishment perfect social security system, reasonably determined the safeguard standard and the level" - - should completely be government's work? The people life, own do not improve, actually requests the government to give the improvement, was the government can take responsibility on oneself? However, our government on - - plays the multi-purpose role under such system: The public ownership system caused the government control people the producer goods, therefore the people lay down in government's bosom; The people lie down in the government bosom, slightly has the hungry look to have the government, I will not know such system will start in our country, when to arrive from where up to? But the third wave socialist thought goes beyond! ... ...
    I do not know more truths, also did not know whether some foreigners had said does not have: A national system choice and the existence, certainly is this national people's intrinsic psychology and the cultural inside story on the social overhead construction external demand, otherwise the formidable national rule machine is impossible to maintain its system forever good to revolve.
    Because of one kind of system establishment, needs first to send its culture, but the so-called culture actually is innermost feelings of the person, the innermost feelings fountainhead Yu Jen's natural disposition; In the Mao Zedong time, after the leadership worker and peasant hits the world, established the socialism society is the majority poor national (slightly rich partial people runs Taiwan) the even ideal demand, therefore the Mao Zedong Thought could "the forever glorious"!
    Now, when Pandora is opened, the human nature most despicable animal natural disposition already made widely known Yu Zheike the society, but the person the rational glory only could desire covet of under the animalistic appear and disappear from time to time, if we also begged to the public ownership system this vice- panacea, and thought our country therefore... ... Is because we do not have the realization complete socialist system of ownership! Whether really looks like Lu Xun to say, we now rule a nation the medicine, does not have the big effectiveness, is because we have not found June the snow, or do not have the water same rascal which the useful bottomless barrel splits out in the deep well?
    Why don't we ' the socialism ' face up to person's innermost feelings demand, actually must sing the same old tune? Even if socialism in other national defeats as a result of historical proof socialism defeat, but has not carried on the system construction socialism, I thought the third wave socialism also has traded the waistcoat socialism, exuded is only the spoiled dregs mud, was any lotus flower rebirth in no way!
    In here me explained what is person's innermost feelings demand? Outside human's innermost feelings demand does not have is to own wealth and the right pursue. But, each person actually emaciated to youth, to young adults, actually frightened to old age; - - If we had truly understood these human natures, our social system does design also submits to the socialism and the capitalism senseless struggle? 2003/3/9

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