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    Cocchi Gioachino....

    ...an older "unknown" of this here site and thread:

    COCCHI, Gioacchino (detto il Napoletano). nel * 1720 *a Venezia dopo il 1788.( acc to Fétis)


    Gioachino has a lot in common with the following three gentlemen below:


    1.Johann Georg Nicolai (*24.06.1720, +24.12.1788) (Organist; Komponist; 1720 bis 1788) (No further content in his bio)

    2. Emmanuel-Armand de Vignerot du Plessis-Richelieu, duc d'Aiguillon (31 July 1720 – 1 September 1788), was a French soldier and statesman, and a nephew Armand de Vignerot du Plessis, 3rd Duke of Richelieu (13 March 1696 – 8 August 1788). He served as the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs under King Louis the Classical style.

    3.Charles-Antoine Campion, italianized as Carlo Antonio Campioni (16 November 1720 – 12 April 1788[1]) was an Italian composer who was born in Lorraine. He was a prolific composer

    .....and most propably with the following as well:

    4.Frederick II (German: Landgraf Friedrich II von Hessen-Kassel) (14 August 1720 – 31 October 1785)

    5.Carlo, Count Gozzi (13 December 1720 – 4 April 1806)[1] was a Venetian playwright and champion of Commedia dell'arte.

    ...and propably with the following as well:

    6.Friedrich Wilhelm Freiherr von Seydlitz[Note 1] (3 February 1721 – 8 November 1773[1]) was a Prussian officer, lieutenant general, and among the greatest of the Prussian cavalry generals.

    7.Giovanni Battista Lorenzi (or Giambattista;[1] 1721–1807) was an Italian librettist. He was born in Puglia and died in Naples and was a friend of Giovanni Paisiello, with whom he collaborated on numerous operas.

    8.Jean-Baptiste Berthier (1721–1804) was an officer (Lieutenant-Colonel) in the French Corps of Topographical Engineers during the reigns of Louis XV and Louis XVI.

    Anyway, 1,2 and 3 above were surely* all born Dec 1720, +Jan 1788


    *Above list is incomplete


    Further research is required on :

    Sir John Hawkins (29 March 1719 – 21 May 1789)

    Michel-Jean Sedaine (2 June 1719 – 17 May 1797)

    Étienne-François de Choiseul-Beaupré-Stainville, comte puis duc de Choiseul-Stainville (*le 28 juin 1719 à Nancy et mort le 8 mai 1785 au château de Chanteloup). Il fut le chef du gouvernement de Louis XV entre 1758 et 1770.

    Charles-François de Broglie, marquis de Ruffec[1] (19 August 1719 – 16 August 1781),

    Johann Georg Leopold Mozart (November 14, 1719 – May 28, 1787)

    Charles Gravier, Count of Vergennes (29 December 1719 – 13 February 1787) was a French statesman and diplomat. He served as Foreign Minister from 1774 during the reign of Louis XVI, notably during the American War of Independence

    Henri Léonard Jean Baptiste Bertin (born 24 March 1720, Périgueux; died 16 September 1792, Spa (Belgium)) was a French statesman, and controller general of finances of Louis XV (1759–1763).

    William Cavendish, 4th Duke of Devonshire, (8 May 1720 – 2 October 1764),

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    Club *1792ers

    The following abbreviated list contains 11 distinguished players all born 1792, a critical historical year for frenchmen in particular. As such there'll be no comments on their actions, characacter, integrity etc as they were all committed to their individual cause or under orders and accordingly rewarded later.

    They may therefore all be excused for certain "errors" in their biographies

    All but nr 10 because he is the only source on yourtruly's ancestor Michel Hennin, né le 28 juin 1777 à Genève et mort le 29 décembre 1863 à Paris, est un antiquaire, numismate et collectionneur français. as his wiki biography wants him today https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Hennin.


    1.Ferdinando Ceccherini (14 genn. 1792– 12 genn. 1858.), a noted tenor, composer etc

    2.Gioachino Antonio Rossini (29 February 1792 – 13 November 1868) was an Italian composer ...)

    3.François-Louis Crosnier (12 May 1792 - 1 September 1867) was a French theatre manager, politician, and playwright, who used the pen name Edmond Crosnier ,

    4.James Mayer de Rothschild, Baron de Rothschild (born Jakob Mayer Rothschild; 15 May 1792 – 15 November 1868) was a German-French Jewish banker and the founder of the French branch of the Rothschild family.[1][2]

    5.Percy Bysshe Shelley 4 August 1792 – 8 July 1822)

    6.Russell, 1st Earl Russell, KG, GCMG, PC, FRS (18 August 1792 – 28 May 1878), known by his courtesy title Lord John Russell before 1861, was a British Whig and Liberal statesman who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1846 to 1852 and again from 1865 to 1866.

    7.Sir John Bowring KCB FRS FRGS (17 October 1792 – 23 November 1872) was an English political economist, traveller, writer, literary translator, polyglot and the fourth Governor of Hong Kong.

    8.Edward John Trelawny (13 November 1792 – 13 August 1881)

    9.Victor Cousin; 28 November 1792 – 14 January 1867) was a French philosopher. During the last years of his life he occupied a suite of rooms in the Sorbonne, where he lived simply and unostentatiously. The chief feature of the rooms was his noble library, the cherished collection of a lifetime. He died in Cannes on 14 January 1867

    10.Pierre-Alexandre Gratet-Duplessis (*16 décembre 1792, Janville, +21 mai 1853 à 60 ans, Paris) fut successivement professeur dans divers collèges, proviseur, inspecteur et enfin recteur des Académies de Caen et de Douai. (only source of “Michel Hennin”)

    11. Παναγιώτης (Μαρίνος) Στεφάνου (1792-1863). Ανήκει στους Ζακυνθινομωραΐτες, απογόνους των Ορλωφικών. Προτού ενταχθεί στην «φιλοαγγλική» Ε.Ζ. φυλακίστηκε από την Αγγλική διοίκηση επειδή βοηθούσε την Επανάσταση.




    Nr 10 was a liar and we'll have to correct him as we know better!

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    Another "source" for Michell Hennin, just discovered:

    François Pierre Guillaume Guizot (4 October 1787 – 12 September 1874) was a French historian, orator, and statesman. Guizot was a dominant figure in French politics prior to the Revolution of 1848. A moderate liberal[1][2] who opposed the attempt by King Charles X to usurp legislative power, he worked to sustain a constitutional monarchy following the July Revolution of 1830.He then served the "citizen king" Louis Philippe, as Minister of Education, 1832–37, ambassador to London, Foreign Minister 1840–1847, and finally Prime Minister of France from 19 September 1847 to 23 February 1848. Guizot's influence was critical in expanding public education, which under his ministry saw the creation of primary schools in every French commune. But as a leader of the "Doctrinaires", committed to supporting the policies of Louis Phillipe and limitations on further expansion of the political franchise, he earned the hatred of more left-leaning liberals and republicans through his unswerving support for restricting suffrage to propertied men, advising those who wanted the vote to "enrich yourselves" (enrichissez-vous) through hard work and thrift.

    Guizot's close comntemporaries:


    Marie-Emmanuel-Guillaume-Marguerite Théaulon de Lambert (14 August 1787, Aigues-Mortes – 16 November 1841) was a French playwright.

    General Sir George de Lacy Evans GCB (7 October 1787 – 9 January 1870) was a British Army general who served in four wars in which the United Kingdom's troops took part in the 19th century. He was later a long-serving Member of Parliament.

    Michele Enrico Francesco Vincenzo Aloisio Paolo Carafa di Colobrano[1] (17 November 1787 – 26 July 1872) was an Italian opera composer. He was born in Naples and studied in Paris with Luigi Cherubini. He was Professor of counterpoint at the Paris Conservatoire from 1840 to 1858. One of his notable pupils was Achille Peri.

    Guizot was also a close associate of philhelene swiss banker Eynard (who never corresponded with Michel Hennin, his swiss neighbor or even with his antiphilhelene opponent, Austria's Chancellor Prince Metternich).

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    Worth mentioning the fact that even if JGEynard *1775 never corresponded with Michel Pierre Hennin (ie Μιχαήλ Πέτρου Κοκκίνης (*1775), the Misolonghi engineer and Millingen's associate, previously in charge of economic affairs of Napoleon's Italian conquest under Eugene Beauharnais) he did actually do his best* to announce -and collect relative donations-and assist financialy Mme Bacchini and her three children, wife of the engineer (who allegedly met his heroic death at Missolonghi's fall), starving in appalling conditions in Zante, August 1826, while he was in Florence, Italy.

    *Only after relative -and very characteristic-diplomatic pressure (existing letter xchange) by the Zante committee Dragonas, Stefanou, Romas.

    Eynard was born 28 December 1775 (Thursday) along with three more aliases ,exactly on same date. He had another ten aliases at least, most already mentioned in previous posts here.
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    At https://maria-antonia.forumactif.com/f442-decembre , readers may find four gentleman who, surely, by rare coincidence, all share the same birthday and not only:

    28 décembre Maurice Thomassin de Bienville ,décédé le 16 novembre 1860 à Bienville.

    28 décembre 1775: Anne-Charles Lebrun, Paris, +January 21, 1859 (83) Paris, Île-de-France, ) . The famous II Duc du Plaisance, famous in Greece for his (another wife, an american) abandoned in Athens , tragic Duchess of Plaisance or Δούκισα τής Πλακεντίας.

    28 décembre João Domingos Bomtempo +18 August 1842 (aged 66); Lisbon, Portugal

    28 December 1775 (Thursday) Jean Gabriel Eynard, député du Conseil représentatif de Genève, secrétaire de la Légation genevoise au Congrès de Vienne, +5 February 1863 (Thursday) - Genève, Suisse, aged 87 years old. Banquier, philantrope, photographe, bienfaiteur et libérateur de la Grèce, cofondateur de la Banque Nationale de Grèce (1842)

    Bontempo indeed but for the fact he never corresponded with his close contemporary, Prince Metternich of Austria!

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    Another alias of "Voltaire" comes to surface, ie Thomas Gordon (c. 1691–28 July 1750) was a Scottish writer and Commonwealthman.:

    en juillet 1750 Voltaire part vivre à la cour de Frédéric II de Prusse à Potsdam en juillet 1750, mais elle reste à Paris. Elle s'occupe de la gestion des affaires de Voltaire, notamment avec la Comédie-française et la Cour. Voltaire se brouille avec Frédéric II et elle le rejoint à Colmar. Tous deux partent ensuite pour Genève, où ils arrivent le 12 décembre 1754.

    28 July 1750 “+” of Thomas Gordon (c. 1691–28 July 1750) was a Scottish writer and Commonwealthman. Along with John Trenchard, he published The Independent Whig, which was a weekly periodical.

    18 août 1750 1re représentation à Paris : Académie Royale de Musique, Ismène by Chev/iers François Francoeur (*1698-1787), François Rebel (*1701-1775) (only Rebel present?)

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    To further check:

    Gaetano Rossi (Italian: [ɡaeˈtaːno ˈrossi]; 18 May 1774 – 25 January 1855) was an Italian opera librettist for several of the well-known bel canto-era composers including Gioachino Rossini,


    Salomon Mayer von Rothschild (9 September 1774 – 28 July 1855) was a German-born banker in the Austrian Empire and the founder of the Austrian branch of the prominent Mayer Amschel Rothschild family.

    Gaspare Luigi Pacifico Spontini (14 November 1774 – 24 January 1851) was an Italian opera composer and conductor.Born in Maiolati, Papal State (now Maiolati Spontini, Province of Ancona), he spent most of his career in Paris and Berlin, but returned to his place of birth at the end of his life. During the first two decades of the 19th century, Spontini was an important figure in French opera. In his more than twenty operas, Spontini strove to adapt Gluck's classical tragédie lyrique to the contemporary taste for melodrama, for grander spectacle (in Fernand Cortez for example), for enriched orchestral timbre, and for melodic invention allied to idiomatic expressiveness of words.

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    Παναγιώτης (Μαρίνος) Στεφάνου (1792-1863). Ανήκει στους Ζακυνθινομωραΐτες, απογόνους των Ορλωφικών. Προτού ενταχθεί στην «φιλοαγγλική» Ε.Ζ. φυλακίστηκε από την Αγγλική διοίκηση επειδή βοηθούσε την Επανάσταση. Ελαιογραφία του Χρήστου Ρουσέα. Μουσείο Σολωμού και Επιφανών (https://karavaki.wordpress.com/2017/...ma/p-stefanou/)

    Gioachino Antonio Rossini (29 February 1792 – 13 November 1868) was an Italian composer who gained fame for his 39 operas, although he also wrote many ...Place of death: Passy, Paris

    François-Louis Crosnier (12 May 1792 - 1 September 1867) was a French theatre manager, politician, and playwright, who used the pen name Edmond Crosnier , Louis Crosnier* 92 Du 29 février 1852 au 29 mai 1857 Mandat. département Loir-et-Cher Second Empire - Corps législatif et Du 21 juin 1857 au 7 mai 1863 Mandat législatif Département Loir-et-Cher

    James Mayer de Rothschild, Baron de Rothschild (born Jakob Mayer Rothschild; 15 May 1792 – 15 November 1868) was a German-French Jewish banker and the founder of the French branch of the Rothschild family.[1][2] (James_de_Rothschild.jpg ‎(350 × 412 pixels, file size)

    Marinos Stefanou and James Mayer are lookalikes, Rossini less so .
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    Other clandestine stories:

    Ugo Foscolo * February 1778 in Zakynthos – 10 September 1827 in Turnham Green), born Niccolò Foscolo.

    D'Arcy Bacon, Francis ADVENTURER (ENGLAND) *27 May 1778, London, +2 Dec 1842 GRAVE LOCATION London: St. Mary's Church, Lambeth (churchyard (grave disappeared?))
    Son of Mary Linnel and John Bacon, who probably was an illegitimate son of Frederick, Prince of Wales. D'Arcy Bacon was one of the most remarkable Englishmen who went to Greece to help in the fight for independence against the Turks. In 1825 he helped the wounded E.J. Trelawny to escape from a cave in the mountains and put him on his way back to England.D'Arcy Bacon travelled extensively in Greece and kept a diary.

    Giovanni Gherardini (1778-1861) Italian *27-05-1778, +08-01-1861 Poète. - Librettiste. – Philologue

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    As for Rossini’s(*Feb 1792, conc May 1791) father:

    August 24 1791 was the Official opening of the Teatro Riccardi opera house in Bergamo, Lombardy, with a production of Pietro Metastasio's Didone abbandonata set to music by multiple composers including

    -Ferdinando Bertoni (Ferdinando Bertoni (15 August 1725 – 1 December 1813)

    -Giacomo Rampini(+at the time),

    -Johann Gottlieb Naumann,(17 April 1741 – 23 October 1801 born and died in Offenbach am Main,

    aka? Johann André (28 March 1741 – 18 June 1799),

    aka(?) Andrea Luchesi or Lucchedi (23 May 1741 – 21 March 1801),

    aka(?)Giuseppe Gazzaniga (*1743, ext repertorio, mainly Napoli, never Paris)

    and

    -Giovanni Paisiello *(Taranto, 9 maggio 1740

    So:A younger Rossi father is likely. With Gioachino Cocchi/1st "Rossini"+1788, it's propably either Francesco Cocchi , Figlio di Antonio e di Cristina Amadasi , Giurista, (born Copermio 1 febbraio 1769 +Parma 6 novembre 1838) or, most propably, Gaetano Rossi (18 May 1774 – 25 January 1855, aka Salomon Mayer aka Spontini) Italian opera librettist for several of the well-known bel canto-era composers including Gioachino Rossini .
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    A heavenly match blessed...

    by "Voltaire" and his encyclopedians, no doubt:

    Jean-Jacques Lefranc (also Le Franc), Marquis de Pompignan (10 August 1709 – 1 November 1784) was a French man of letters and erudition, who published a considerable output of theatrical work, poems, literary criticism, and polemics; treatises on archeology, nature, travel and many other subjects; and a wide selection of highly regarded translations of the classics and other works from several European languages including English.

    Samuel Johnson (18 September 1709 [OS 7 September] – 13 December 1784), often referred to as Dr Johnson, was an English writer who made lasting contributions to English literature as a poet, playwright, essayist, moralist, literary critic, biographer, editor, and lexicographer. Religiously, he was a devout Anglican,[1] and politically a committed Tory. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography describes Johnson as "arguably the most distinguished man of letters in English history".

    Money made the world go round (at the time)!

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    Thomas Gordon * 1691 already covered, leads to

    ..the following "commonwealthers" , his extremely close contemporaries, some already covered in previous:

    Christian Goldbach; (March 18, 1690 – November 20, 1764) was a German mathematician who also studied law. He is remembered today for Goldbach's conjecture.

    John Montagu, 2nd Duke of Montagu (*29 March 1690, son of Ralph Montagu, 1st Duke of Montagu and Lady Elizabeth Wriothesley) 17 March 1705 he married Lady Mary Churchill, daughter of John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough and Sarah Jenyns, died(??) on 5 July 1749 at age 59

    John Carteret, 2nd Earl Granville, 7th Seigneur of Sark, KG, PC (/kɑːrtəˈrɛt/; 22 April 1690 – 2 January 1763), commonly known by his earlier title Lord Carteret, was a British statesman and Lord President of the Council from 1751 to 1763; he worked extremely closely with the Prime Minister of the country, Spencer Compton, Earl of Wilmingtonc. (*1674), in order to manage the various factions of the Government.[1][2] He was Seigneur of Sark from 1715 to 1720 when he sold the fief. He held (in absentia) the office of Bailiff of Jersey from 1715 to 1763.[citation needed

    Jean Moreau de Séchelles, seigneur de Séchelles, surintendant des Finances, membre de l'Académie royale des Sciences (1755), Born 10 May 1690, Deceased 31 December 1760 - Paris (75), aged 70 years old Maître des requêtes (1719), contrôleur général des finances (1754), intendant du Hainaut, ministre d'Etat,

    Jean Pâris de Monmartel (3 August 1690 at Moirans – 10 September 1766 at his château at Brunoy)[1] was a French financier. He was the youngest of the four Pâris brothers, who were financiers under Louis XIV and Louis XV. At the height of his fortunes he had 370,000 livres invested in the powerful Société d'Angola,[2][3] set up to deal in the Atlantic slave trade, managed by Antoine Walsh, the richest and most famous of the Irish of Nantes.[4] He held a number of titles: marquis of Brunoy,[5] count of Sampigny, baron Dagouville, count of Châteaumeillant,[5] d'Argenton et Veuil d'Argenson, viscount de la Motte Feuilly, baron Saint-Jeanvrin, Saligny et Marigny, seigneur of Villers-sur-Mer, Chateauneuf, La Chétardie, Varenne, Lamotte-Glauville, Bourgeauville, Drubec, des Humières, Le Donjon, La Forest les Dureaux, Lamirande, Lachetardie, and other places.

    François Colin (ou Collin) de BLAMONT 22 novembre 1690 (Versailles) – 14 février 1760 (Versailles)

    Christian August, Prince of Anhalt-Zerbst (29 November 1690, in Dornburg – 16 March 1747, in Zerbst) was a German prince of the House of Ascania, and the father of Catherine the Great of Russia.He was a ruler of the Principality of Anhalt-Dornburg. From 1742, he was a ruler of the entire Principality of Anhalt-Zerbst. He was also a Prussian Generalfeldmarschall.]


    Feo Francesco (1691 - 28/01/1761) composer

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    add to post 359 :

    Joseph Gabriel Tancrède de Félix Birthdate: estimated between 1690 and 1744 +June 05, 1777, Antibes, Alpes-Maritimes, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France

    and comment:

    Their presences/abscences/timelines confirm their alias status to our main hero, V *1688!
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