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    The irish-armenian Cassin US family of Maryland!

    I now understand why the Greeks were such great poets; and, above all, I can account, it seems to me, for the harmony, the unity, the perfection, the uniform excellence, of all their works of art. They lived in a perpetual commerce with external nature, and nourished themselves upon the spirit of its forms. Their theatres were all open to the mountains and the sky. Their columns, the ideal types of a sacred forest, with its roof of interwoven tracery, admitted the light and wind; the odour and the freshness of the country penetrated the cities. Their temples were mostly hypæthric; and the flying clouds, the stars, or the deep sky, were seen above. O, but for that series of 6306 wretched wars which terminated in the Roman conquest of the world; but for the Christian religion, which put the finishing stroke on the ancient system; but for those changes that conducted Athens to its ruin — to what an eminence might not humanity have arrived!Shelley’s Impression of Pompeii.
    (From a letter to Thomas Love Peacock.) [c. 1818]
    http://www.elfinspell.com/CelebratedLetters.html

    "Again a revelation came to Joseph Smith from the Lord: 'Joseph, son of man, take a roll of papyrus and write on it these words: 'This papyrus represents Abraham and his sojourn in Egypt.' Then take another papyrus roll and write these words on it: 'This papyrus represents Joseph of Israel.' Now hold them together in your hand as one record. When the saints ask you what your actions mean, say to them, 'This is what the Lord says: I will take the papyrus of Joseph and join it to the papyrus of Abraham. I will make them one record in my hand.' Then hold out the papyrus rolls you have written on, so the saints can see them. And give them this message from the Lord: I will gather the people of Israel from among the nations and bring them to Zion."
    http://www.myegyptology.net/file/id622.htm

    We have visited the British Museum, which contains a vast number and quantity of Egyptian Sepulchres [Sepulchers], Mummies, Hieroglyphics, and Papyrus, the history and account of which we feel much interested in, and shall forward you an account of the same in a future communication.
    We subscribe ourselves your brethren in the everlasting covenant,
    C. KIMBALL, W. WOODRUFF, G. A. SMITH.
    TIMES AND SEASONS.
    D. C. SMITH, EDITOR.
    CITY OF NAUVOO, FRIDAY, JANUARY 1, 1841
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    Raisindue!

    You might have found the previous post's title irrelevant to the text, viewer, you might have thought it didn't make sense and you could be right:
    Nothing makes sense anymore!

    For instance, the many Coz(s)ine root hunters make no sense by ignoring the Maryland Caussins while ommiting, at the same time, their heirs, the Maryland Cassins, the "irish-armenians" of said title, well recorded otherwise as early naval officers and scientists, taking part in Decatur's "eastern" expedition, then saving Norfolk VA (fully justifying now Poe's "not long the measure of my falling hours, for of all stars closer was thine to ours") their name printed in gold in US naval history (excepting the short interval, Monroe's doctrine, 1815-1836), their records now at the American Philosophical Society, next to the Cassini astronomy book (http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/mole/c.htm).

    It doesn't make any sense to further wait our "Cuzyn" etc US cousins to answer our invitation for a public discussion on the delicate issues of religion and constitution, no "reason" indeed.

    The "US Cozine" research was not needed to beginn with, we said as much earlier on: The "Mercer Dynasty" choice of our Paris cousins alongside Poe's interpretation was enough and, as such, further studying early US history to find out exactly why the Baltimore merchants decided, 1815, to finance the "liberation" of Levant seas and thus promote their goodies and then decided, for some "raisin" or other, to cut promised aid and frigates delivery, siding with Britain, at http://www.webroots.org/library/usahist/cobmd012.html, makes also no further sense at all:

    Researching above source for names and relations, as per name index included there: "Poe, Carrol, Murray, Dennis Claude, Geo. C. Washington, Gerard N. Cassin etc etc etc" in particular, will be to no avail, there are far easier ways to persuade the few remaining infidels (to our rationality) of our riddle solving capacity.

    It makes sense, for instance, to ask ourselves "What reason did the Paris "Mercer Dynasty" have to entrust their sensitive family archive to an american author?".

    It makes perfect sense because we have now discovered their "Merecr" roots and ties to the Maryland Lawrences and, as such, if we are lucky enough to establish that "Monsieur" (it's a she propably) Winnie H. Lawrence IS of Monrovian provenance and, if furthermore we are also lucky enough to further document our allegation that her book IS a half truth and of no use to us, as already stated, then out point IS made and we save ourselves the trouble, our familyghostbusting patience long exhausted

    A monrovian-mormon "Winnie Lawrence" can be found at

    http://www.heirsandroots.com/needham.htm

    and a review of Winnie H.Lawrence's "Cochin Mercer Dynasty" book can be seen at
    http://www.h-france.net/vol3reviews/harrison2.html

    The review article--as well as the book itself-naturally fails to address the issue "Mercer Co Cozines" and, as such, the question why would a french family of "notable status", a later "denizen of liberal catholic circles", chose a monrovian american historian-author with quaker-mormon roots, to write their story, has now been answered:

    A different philosophy (as per previous post) that' s all!
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    Whew. Talk about initiative. Do a lot of people read what you have to say? I read a lot of your posts but I can't comment on any of them because I know little of the subject.

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    My devoted "clients"....

    ..are rare birds indeed, (USS Peackock, Winnie's cochins/cassins etc etc):

    BAIRD, Spencer, John Cassin, George N. Lawrence; Reports of Explorations & Surveys, to Ascertain the Most Practicable & Economical Route for a Railroad from the Mississippi River to the Pacific Ocean, . . . in 1854-5. Volume IX. General Reports Upon Zoology of Several Railroad Routes Birds. Washington, House of Representatives, 1858, , 4to [30 x 24 cm]; lvi, 1005 pp, numerous tables, index, contemporary leather-backed boards, rubbed, edge wear, joint cracking but strong, spine title lettering faded, interior is quite clean and very good.

    This report was reprinted verbatim for the Cassin bird book, The Birds of North America, published 1860, that became a classic work on the birds of the western US. Zimmer 646: 'The most important work on North American birds up to its date since Audubon and Wilson. The work consist of a critical, descriptive account of all the birds of North America, north of Mexico, and is not restricted to the species collected by the Pacific Railroad Surveys'. Hasse p. 62. Goetzmann, Army Exploration in the American West: 'The massive volumes of the Pacific Railroad Reports represented the combined efforts of the topographical engineers and a sizable contingent of the country's foremost scientists. Not since Napoleon had taken his company of savants into Egypt had the world seen such an assemblage of scientists and technicians marshaled under one banner'.


    Now studying botany, the "very red cabbages" of Baltimore city, and will be back soon.

    Eureka!

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    Edgar's friend and The Raven.

    Part 1.
    Had it not been for the particular "ornith", Yanni would have long boarded captain Steven Cassin's "Peacock" and sailed off, destination Zante, but....

    Poe's 6 years in Philadelphia, 1838-1844....his most productive, yielding "The Tell Tale Heart" and "The Fall of the House of Usher," among others... (The Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia was founded in 1812 "for the encouragement and cultivation of the sciences, and the advancement of useful learning)....

    ....fully justify the assumption that Edgar was in close touch with..... .

    John Cassin (1813-1869) was a Pennsylvania Quaker, businessman and unpaid curator of birds at the Philadelphia Academy of Natural Sciences, which housed the largest collection of study skins in existence at the time. Cassin took responsibility for cataloging and arranging the collection, thereby becoming familiar with birds from all over the world.
    http://www.uiowa.edu/~nathist/Site/w...2A.html#cassin

    After Edgar's death, John joined...

    U.S. Naval Astronomical Expedition to the Southern Hemisphere During the Years 1849-50-51-52. (Contains 37 plates and 11 woodcuts all complete. 15 plates are color bird illustrations by John Cassin)

    ....and Perry's far east expedition next ....

    At Hong Kong the expedition broke up, ships returning to the States or remaining on station as part of the regular Asiatic Squadron. Perry, exhausted and ill, traveled by commercial steamer and overland through Europe, arriving in New York in January 1855. On April 23, 1855, his original flagship, the Mississippi, docked at Brooklyn Navy Yard and the next day "Old Matt" formally hauled down his pennant.
    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/PTO/...rry/index.html

    ...while back home....

    One of the most destructive fires with which our city has been visited broke out shortly before 12 o'clock on Thursday night, October 19th. (1854) It is supposed that the fire originated.....to the inflammable nature of the contents of the establishment, the flames spread with a fierceness and rapidity that defied all efforts made.......the cooper-shop of -Page 547-Mr. John Causin, and several tenement houses occupied by colored people, were burnt out.....( THE Chronicles of Baltimore;BY COL. J. THOMAS SCHARF, MEMBER OF THE MARYLAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, ETC., ETC.BALTIMORE:,TURNBULL BROTHERS, (around 1869):

    Col Scharf (like sharp!) member of the Maryland Historical society, was Edgar's first ever biographer and, obviously a half truth writer, a "papyri copier" and an outright "very red cabbage":

    No true historian-author can bypass the naval officers Cassins (father John, son Stephen) in charge (1821) of naval yards of Norfolk and Washington and get away with it.

    His book has been studied and found very usefull indeed.

    (Part II following soon).

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    Edgar's friend and The Raven

    Part II

    The recent discovery of Edgar's "alleged" friend, the Philadelphia-Baltimore ornithologist John Cassin or Caussin, same family as the US Cassin "irish" sailors, same family as Edgar's previous greek friends, Yanni d'Anastasy's hydrian Cochins or Caussins, opens the road to glory for all "Poe researchers" and other "creative scholars", such as the US Naval Academy (who did well to timely "stop maintaining" their Poe Perplex site btw):

    The "Gold Bug", written in 1843, as well as "The Raven" 1845, are full of John Cassin's natural science "traces" (not listed due to much more important findings to be revealed further down) and as such, and further to what has already been stated herein in the past, the unknown...

    ...man using the pen name "Pocasin" wrote in the Messenger, "The Visionary is a vivid, inventive, and thrilling sketch -- teeming with beautiful language, which has the freshness and volume of the mountain cataract, without its turbulence" in July of 1834 (Thomas,169)

    ...may well be young John Cassin well aquainted with his family history.

    However:

    As the "Cassin sailors" recent discovery and the relevant websearch carried out by your truly in the last two days produced important findings leading to :
    a) The answer, up to a point, to the question re Edgar's real identity and death.
    b) The "greek frigates order" fiasco and those who benefited from it.
    c) The identities of the Cassin officers-central figures in the US naval history,
    d) "indications" concerning other "central figures" of US history...
    e) the solution to the 1835 Zante murder

    and as such delicate matters take time to be put together in a readable fashion...

    Your patience is required: a) above is under preparation and will be published next.
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    Hi Yanni.....

    Interesting about John Cassin, the "alleged" friend of Edgar Allan Poe. Good that you see Cassin influence in Poe's "The Gold Bug" and "The Raven". "Pocasin" -- very clever pen name.

    I must discuss with you Poe and the Beale Papers mystery as you asked me to. It appears to me that Edgar Allan Poe did not author the Beale Papers. There is, however, very good reason to suspect that Poe did author them as in the following site the Beale Papers/Gold Bug comparisons are monumental:

    http://www.bealepapers.com

    But Poe did not author the Beale Papers. A man by the name of John William Sherman had motive, opportunity and ability to create a treasure hoax; a physical treasure of silver and gold does not exist. However, if a message exists in the elusive B1 cryptogram then there is a treasure of sorts after all as this cryptogram has remained unsolved for about 124 years until now; Kenneth Bauman has deciphered two messages from cryptogram B1. The following sites outline John William Sherman as creator of the "dime novel" Beale Papers:

    http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page20.htm

    http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page23.htm

    http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page24.htm

    http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page22.htm

    John Sherman extensively plagiarized Edgar Allan Poe to make his story (Beale Papaers) appear to be written by Poe. Sherman went as far as to hide a second message in B1 which equates to a signature of Edgar Allan Poe. I have deciphered this signature over and above the first decipherment of the phrase ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE which is explained in this site:

    http://www.angelfire.com/extreme5/beale/index.html

    Very beneficail to the discovery of the Poe signature was James Gillogly's site: (Jim stops short of discovering the 5 word phrase and Poe signature)

    http://members.fortunecity.com/jpeschel/gillog3.htm

    My second book will outline the Poe signature and is the entire project for which the book "Leaves of Lavendered Lily" in only an introduction. "Leaves of Lavendered Lily" can be ordered by the following two methods:

    http://www.rosedogbookstore.com/leoflali.html

    1-800-834-1803

    Yanni, I hope this information is beneficial to your research; if you're concvinced, as I am, of Poe' NON-involvement with the Beale Papers, perhaps this can save you some time with the Beale Papers investigation. Even though there likely is no treasure (gold/siler), the Beale Papers, especailly cryptogram B1, IS NOT entirely a hoax. Perhaps there is SOMETHING hidden at Redknee. It is a mysterious project to be solved to say the least. I have done just that and am writing about it. My second book should be published by Christmas of 2007.

    Yanni, I would be honored for you to read "Leaves of Lavendered Lily"! And especially honored if you would promote the book in Greece! Thank-you so much for your efforts and good luck on furthering you research -- I'll stay in touch via this thread and private e-mail

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    Pocasin

    Part I
    Colonel Scharf of Baltimore provided many clues to the solution of our puzzles including, but not limited to: Edgar's "perplex", as US Navy scholars chose to label it, and it's twin, John Allan's, the two, puzzles and men, inseparable.

    "Pocasin" will concentrate on above "twins" and will address the relevant issue of the greek frigate fiasco as well.

    Early in this thread we have insisted that Edgar did participate in "his greek expedition" in 1827, was also earlier on in Greece as George or William Townsend Washington (and Egypt as John Fowler Hull) and that John Allan, his foster father, was the same man as John M. Allen, the captain who supplied provisions to Missolonghi at the time of Byron's death (April 1824).

    This theorem, that both men used multiple identities, that both shared each other's secrets and were thus chained to eachother, their philosophies totally different, "Until death did them part" AND "money", #1 motive always in criminal cases, is THE ONLY WAY to intepret Edgar, his work and his death.

    Because, if this theory is correct, if John Allan is Tampico captain John Allen, he does not die in 1834 but is alive in 1849, Edgar's death, the chain possibly broken as his interests dictate.

    This theory ONLY explains the controversial relationship of the two men, partly evident in their correspondence, Edgar's "false Muse" of 1827-1834, his most "productive" period of 1834-1844, his "revengefull-outspoken-sincere" period from then on leading to his death.

    "Sordid money" was possibly an influencing factor in Edgar's "sources-biographers" such as Mr Ingram (already mentioned), possibly Mr Nilsen or Neilson (a Poe, love rival of Edgar, from a publishing family Edgar strangely contacted late in life) and a surprising AllEn (who broke the rule spelling the name correctly). Not so with Griswold (who forced Edgar to confess in writing his "greek expedition" and who wished Edgar "good ridance" at his death), possibly not so with colonel Scharf, his colours clear (but banner waving often goes with bad intentions, doesn't it ) too "sharp" to be taken seriously, the one who first dictated in writing, in the short biography of Edgar in his am book, that Edgar's family name MUST be Allan, NOT Allen and that he NEVER joined a greek expedition!

    "Multiple identity" made life easier for such "biographers", their heroes using mail to establish their false presences and identities when required: As such Edgar's own correspondence cannot be taken as solid evidence unless this factor is accounnted for and a graphology test is carried out to establish what part of Edgar's writing is his own and what part is not:

    Because, the existence of a real William Wilson, is neccessary in this scenario, another "Edgar Allen" attending school in London while "George" or "William Townsend Washington" participates in the greek independence struggle, the topic also to be addressed further down.

    There are however a couple of items the "Multiple identity + money" theorem does not explain:
    The unknown earlier years of "Edgar", his neoclassical-french tuition, his eagerness to participate in the greek struggle, his 1833-34 criticism for Yanni d'Anastasy (far too patriotic for "philellene" Irishman), the absence of Ireland from his poetry, his origins and identity, his St Germain decoding(Assignation), his own decoding by a Yanni the greek, the maintenace of his myth, perplex and mystery by those who do know and don't tell and, lastly, this author's regenerated interest on "Po Casin".

    PS to Legrand:Nice seing you in this thread again and thanks for your kind words. Edgar's Legrand will be addressed soon herein, the Beale treasure (a group of men searching for treasure in "Tampico land") possibly referring to John Allen's own source of wealth, yet for the time being I simply do not have the time to look deeper into the matter but be sure what is next to be revelead concerns you.

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    Po Casin

    Part II (Legrand)

    In "The Chronicles of Baltimore" by Colonel Scharf the name Legrand is included and described as follows:

    Legrand, J. C. pages 529, 538, 564, 584, 620 : judge in 1849, chief justice of the court of appeals1858, died 1861.

    The name rang a bell (E.A.Poe's "The Gold Bug" 1843 William Legrand, the hugenot friend of the author's other central hero) thus further websearching for the name led to:

    1834 May 13. Richmond County, North Carolina. Duncan McRae and Hampton LeGrand, Trustees vs. John M. Allen. Mr. John M. Allen, You will take notice that on the 1st day of July next at the house of Obediah DUMAS in WILCOX COUNTY, ALABAMA we shall proceed to take the Deposition of Mark Allen and others to be read as evidence in certain Suits pending in the Superior Court of Law in the County of Richmond, N.C.
    http://home.att.net/~hbridges/tidbits.htm


    John Allan's alleged death in Richmond, March 1834, is thus followed by a law suit of "Hampton LeGrand, Trustees vs. John M. Allen", May 13 1834, including a "Mark Allen" deposition in Alabama(Tampico Land), then we have the 1843 "Gold Bug" talking for a treasure hidden in a mansion in Philadelphia and last we have a J.C.Legrand appointed judge in Baltimore, same year as Edgar's death of 1849, a rising star in the legal profession from then on.

    We do remember reading somewhere that

    ....John remarried the following year, and his new wife, who provided John with three sons, apparently did not replace Frances in Poe's heart. The new Mrs. Allan was not fond of Edgar, either. In March 1834, upon hearing that John was gravely ill, Poe rushed to the bedside of his dying foster father -- and the second Mrs. Allan attempted to block Poe from entering the dying man's room. Poe pushed by her only to be confronted with a livid John, who cursed Edgar and insisted that the young man leave at once. After John's death, Poe found that the man who had raised him and whom he had often lovingly addressed as "Pa" had changed his will to remove all mentions of Edgar.

    Following John Allan's alleged death Edgar writes

    "I looked forward to the inheritance of a large fortune - and was in receipt of an annuity sufficient for my support - by a gentleman [who] always treated me with the affection of a father. But a second marriage on his part, and I dare say many follies on my own, at length ended in a quarrel between us."

    the above copypasted text goes on next as follows:

    John Allan died in March of 1834, leaving nothing of value to his never-adopted foster son Edgar In 1835 he returned to Richmond to work as an editor on the Southern Literary Messenger.

    ...leaving us wondering if Edgar did ever honour his commitment, covering up his resurrected "partner in chains" John M.Allen, or was indeed the client of "Duncan McRae and Hampton LeGrand, Trustees", an easy question for the keepers of their archive to answer today!
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    Po Casin

    Part III

    Where trustees there are trusts as well but the source of John Allen's treasure was certainly neither a "Poe" trust(and there was one) nor an unexpected 1825 "Galt inheritance":
    At the time, the "greel frigates fiasco" was yielding its fruits to the many Allens allegedly involved in the "deal":

    The "virtuous quaker" of 1823, London (previously mistaken for John Alla(e)n) was William Allen (1770-1843), New Lanark Philanthropist, 20.11.1807 fellow of the Royal Society, partner with Owen and Jeremy Bentham, trustee of the Duke of Kent's financial affairs around 1815, also known for his assistance to German Separatists, 1816-1817 - Bimmelers, Zoarites to settle in the US where, obviously, he was well connected (search for "ALS, receipts, bills, subscription lists, broadside, Meeting related papers and papers of Friends committee assisting the Germans to settle here, find land, etc.includes letters from the following: Allen, William copy of a letter to Stephen Grellet, 3 mo. 27, 1817").

    There were many Allens (Allentown) in the US in high positions then, even New York's mayor (before, during and after the "fiasco", the order placed in his playground) was a Stephen Allen, (reformist and prison builder like Bentham and his friends... (http://www.correctionhistory.org/toc...T_report1.html)
    ...but by far the most "prominent", the one clearly in position to draw full benefit for delaying the frigate delivery and profiting as well, the one with connections on both sides, was a John Allen who, together with a Mr Echford, a Mr Blossom and a Mr Webb, were conveniently subcontracted the order from the other main contractors (among them Bayard, later related to Griswold and Edgar-see their "available curious" correspondence) and made the hit of the century:

    Eckford....brought in his half-brother, John Allen, along with a Mr. Blossom as an investor. Allen was a shipbuilder, but remained mostly a silent partner leaving Isaac Webb to manage the yard....The following year Blossom died and from then on the yard was known as Webb and Allen.
    In 1825...The Greek government wanted two of them. Christian Bergh was subcontracted to build the Hope and the Webb and Allen yard built the Liberator. The Hope was delivered. Then the Greek government's British allies swung the naval battle against the Turks at Navarino in 1827. So the Greeks canceled the order for the Liberator. The American government ended up purchasing her off the stocks and renamed her the Hudson.
    The mid-1820s were prosperous times for the Webb and Allen shipyard... along the East River...
    http://www.eraoftheclipperships.com/page2web.html
    also http://jmisc.net/octo/octo-07.htm

    Is this John the same as "Tampico" Allen and our John Allan?

    (see next)
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    Po-Casin Part IV (William Wilson)

    In a mercer-lawyer governed democratic society, reader, we can only supply all available information to enable you answer the previous rhetoric question while we continue our line of thought as follows:.

    Was his foster-father's "captain John Allen-profitable involvement" in the greek frigates deal, the only "holds" Edgar had on him, was this the only reason of their quarrels and final breakup of March 1827?
    "Yes" to the first, no" to the second (as we'll see further-down, their quarrels starting much earlier) but such holds were very weak if compared to what Allan had on Edgar and his alleged brother William Henry Leonard Poe.

    It's written that Allan prevented Edgar from meeting his other relatives earlier on in life, his elder brother in particular, because of Mrs Allan's fondness and fear of losing her adopted son. This is not quite so:

    Mr. Allan, it appears, had at the time of the death of Mrs. David Poe come into the possession of some of her correspondence. What was in these letters no one will ever know as they were afterwards destroyed by Mrs. Clemm at the request of Poe himself. There may have been some compromising matter in them. At any rate, in order to insure Edgar's silence as to his own affairs, Mr. Allan wrote a letter to William Henry Leonard Poe in Baltimore, complaining of Edgar in vague terms accusing him of ingratitude, and attacking the legitimacy of the boy's sister Rosalie.
    Certainly it must have drawn the lines much tighter in the Allan household in Richmond. Three years later we find Henry in Baltimore publishing a poem entitled "In a Pocket Book," which shows every indication that the doubts about his sister's legitimacy had gone home.


    If "no one will ever know" how can one be sure that it was only Rosalie's pedigree at stake?
    How can one be sure of that when, still today, the Schultzes of Pennsylvania reformed church claim that Edgar was not the son of David Poe Jr but of D.P."Sr"?

    VIRGINIA MARIA CLEMM (6) born 1810 only child of William Clemm, Jr. and Maria Poe married EDGAR ALLEN POE, the Poet, son of David Poe, Sr. and Elizabeth Cairnes.

    And this "minor matter" on their pedigrre was not the only other(besides money) "good hold" John had on Edgar and his sailor brother:

    "William Henry Leonard Poe", his birthdate unknown, his service record too, the author of "a" part of E.A.Poe's work, was not a "Poe", not an "Allen", was not even a "Henry":

    He was a "William"...

    ..BUT...

    ..not a "Wilson", as Edgar described his problematic "self" in 1839.
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    Po Casin Part V

    William Wilson.

    In his story Edgar makes reference, among others, to a very specific, if somewhat irrelevant, date, 19th January 1813, a date his "problematic self" was "born".
    It took a while to find out what Edgar exactly meant !

    The capture of the british frigate Macedonian October 25, 1812

    There was a boy only twelve years of age on board the United States, the son of a brave seaman, whose death had left the lad’s mother in poverty. When the crew were clearing the ship for action, the boy stepped up to Decatur and said, "I wish my name may be put down on the roll, sir." "Why so, my lad!" asked the commander. "So that I may have a share of the prize-money," was the earnest reply. Pleased with the spirit of the boy, Decatur granted his request. The boy behaved gallantly throughout the contest. At the close of the action Decatur said to him, "Well, Bill, we have taken the ship, and your share of the prize-money may be about two hundred dollars; * what will you do with it?" "I will send half to my mother, and the other half shall send me to school." The commander was so pleased with the right spirit of the boy that he took him under his protection, procured a midshipman’s berth for him, and superintended his education. – Putnam’s Life of Decatur, page 193.

    The following is a list of the officers of the United States: Commander, Stephen Decatur. Lieutenants, William H. Allen, .......Purser Midshipmen...Joseph Cassin, Philip Voorhees....

    Lieutenant Allen was put aboard the Macedonian as prize-master; he secured the fore- and main-masts and rigged a jury mizzen-mast, converting the vessel into a bark. Commodore Decatur discontinued his cruise to convoy his prize back to America; they reached New London Dec. 4th. Had it not been for the necessity of convoying the Macedonian, the States would have continued her cruise, for the damage she suffered was of the most trifling character.

    James Tertius De Kay, a local naval historian...notes that Allen...was put in command of the prize crew. He brought the ship into New York harbor where a city street was named in his honor.

    After the ship The Macedonian arrived in Newport, Rhode Island, as a prize 4 December 1812, and taken into service by April 1813, Captain Jacob Jones in command.

    Commander Allen (then master commandant by a commission dated July 24, 1813), finding it impossible to get the wind of his enemy, shortened the sail of the Argus to allow the brig to close. He flung out her colors, and at six o’clock wore and delivered a larboard broadside at grape-shot distance. The fire was immediately returned, and Commander Allen’s left leg was carried away by a round-shot.A London paper of August 27, 1813, contained a long account of the ceremonies on the occasion of the funeral of Commander Allen. Officers of the Royal Marines formed a guard of honor, attended by the Royal Marine Band. Eight captains of the Royal Navy were pall-bearers. Allen’s own officers were chief mourners. The American vice-consul was in attendance, and a large procession of the inhabitants followed the hearse. The coffin was covered with the American flag. In the church (St. Andrew’s) to which it was taken the vicar read the funeral service of the Anglican Church.

    ....not only his ship, but his leg and eventually his life. Ironically, his brief successor in command was also named William H. Allen. Providence-born Allen died many miles from home in a British hospital, in Plymouth on August 18, 1813.

    William Henry Allen was a pretty impressive Naval officer. He was born in Providence, Rhode Island on October 21, 1784 (three years after the Battle of Yorktown).


    That's how Edgar's problem was born, IF we are to take his word for granted that is!

    As before mentioned, "Bill" was not a "Wilson" (captain William Hery Allen died 8 moths after Decatur adopted young Bill BECAUSE he was already a seaman's orphan BEFORE October 1812).

    So now we don't just have "William Henry" Leonard "Poe's" birth year, around 1800, but so much more to digest.

    (The very date "Wilson" was born, ie the day he received the share of his prize was found at the "members only" Jistor history website, thus the only information drawn therefrom was:
    January 19, 1813 WAR DEPARTMENT January 19th, 1813. ... The officers and crew of the Frigate Macedonian 37 and some others have ...)

    Think it over carefully, dear viewer, sleep on it, and we'll see what comes next....
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    Purging-Poe's- pseudo-perplexing-paper-pyramid...

    ...is all one can say on previous two posts, dear viewer. Fortunately a lot of good people had done their job, it was no Augean stable and didn't need a Hercules to clean it, an easterly breeze was enough!

    Edgar Allen Poe, the son of David Poe sr, and his true biography now finally open-cards on the table for all to see:

    As instructed by commodore Decatur, lieutenant William Henry Allen (with prize-purser officer, later judge, 1817, Joseph Cassin-died in 1822) placed young Bill to the care of frenchman Henry Didier in Baltimore (hometown of Jo Cassin) early in 1813 for his education.
    Bill did not need to be told who his parents were, he knew already.

    Lieutenant William Henry Allen was next commissioned captain of the Argus July 24, 1813, was killed in battle in August and was buried honourably in London where, soon after, John Allen established his tobacco trading firm with Ellis (using the Allan name to avoid disclosing his family relation to the late captain William).

    When young Bill "X" was of age he joined the navy as a midshipan and chased West Indies pirates on board USS Macedonian. The Allens collapsed financially in London, returned to Richmond for master Edgar's schooling. John Allen tried his luck next as a mercenary-captain in the Levant (quite possibly on a Cassin-Cochini ship) until 1823-24, became then involved in the greek frigates deal, returned to Richmond, went into partnership with Webb and, money flowing, enjoyed himself accordingly when...

    ...all of a sudden...

    ...Bill X, tired of chasing pirates and aware his uncle's luck had changed to the better, decided to pay him a visit, summer 1825, in his navy outfit. John being away and Mrs Allan unknowing, young Edgar hosted midshipan Bill, his late uncle William's adoptee.

    This contact was the beginning of Edgar's problematic on his origins and the beginning of his later quarrel with John Allen.

    Henry boarded next the Macedonian (On 11 June 1826 Macedonian departed Norfolk for service on the Pacific station, returning to Hampton Roads, 30 October 1828...and Henry's Montevideo letter shows that he was aboard the U.S.S. Macedonian in 1827) thus, when Edgar run away from home, early Marth 1827, he first contacted the North American weekly where he published his "Pirate", an account of Bill's story, and then boarded a ship to the Levant, enlisting by an assumed name (possibly George T. Washington, later converted to William Townsend Washington) on USS Constitution.

    On his return to Fort Moultrie, late 1828, John Allen had many reasons to suspect his "son's" behaviour and aquired knowledge, thus he attempted to harness him limiting his finances, nevertheless Edgar wanted to publish his Al Aaraaf (May-December 1829) and avoided giving the MS to John Allan as requested, Allan then learned in horror what his son had written, feared of his own exposure, thus Edgar's first ever "formal letter" to John Allan of January the 3rd 1830.

    Edgar learned the whole truth much later, propably when Bill was dyig(letter of Feb 21st, 1830 to J.Allan).Until 1833 (last leter to J.Allan) he continued addressing him as AllAn and in his correspondence to other Poes, he attempted in vain to persuade them he was the son of David Jr.

    When writining his "William Wilson", knowing that Henry is not a "Poe" as the title implies, he hid the fact Bill was also not a "Wilson", the matter much to complicated for his readers to understand anyhow, possibly avoiding to expose his Philadelphia friends, the Cassins, who told him the rest of his brother's story and kept him informed of the Zante 1835 "happenings", thus The Sonnet to Zante, Lygeia, The Assignation and Annabel Lea.

    Henry Israjel Allen, Edgar's source", is unreliable (the fact documented by his attempt to credit not just The Pirate to "Bill" but Al Aaraaf as well), his evidence (Eliza Poe's letter of February 8, 1813, that "....Henry frequently speaks of his little brother and expressed a great desire to see him"-Allen 20) suspect of "mispelling".

    END OF STORY!

    (BTW: The assumption that Edgar was John Fowler Hull, the Gurna quaker of 1823 is withdrawn as false, the rest of The Announcement stays as is!) .
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    The US made frigate "Hellas", Edgar, Allen and Yanni. .

    Interesting extracts from recently aquired and studied "ISTORIKA EMEROLOGIA TOU NAYTIKOY AGONOS TOU 1821, Georgiou Sahtouri, Second admiral" Kousoulinou&Athanasiadou publishers, Athens 1890.
    (G.Sahtouris (1783-1841), second admiral 1824-1827 on warbrigg "Athina").

    "Athina's" shiplog

    page 74. October 19th 1824: reports captain Toubazi visiting an american brigg and being advised by captain that the USA intends to present them with a steam driven frigate (24 canons of 48lbs) and 200.thousand $ aid. .

    page 122. 23rd of July 1824 Yanni d'Anastasy's ship supplying munition to Missolonghi (Lord Byron dies late April there)

    pages 156-159. 30th November1824, Porto Keri, Zante: Captain Kyriakos Paxinos transferred to them from his schooner an american by the name of Washington (book's namelist, page IX, his christian name initial G.). who was very sick and who asked them to stay on board as he could not stay longer on the schooner. They next sail non stop for Hydra where they arrive December the 5th.

    page 194. 15th April 1826 Cephalonia, They are advised that Lord Gordon has arrived in Zante and that a british ship has arrived from England with coal to be used to fuel the arriving frigates.

    (the one and only american steamdriven frigate "Hope" arrives in Greece late December 1826, is given the name "Hellas" and becomes admiral Lord Cochran's flagship April 1827 on his arrival)

    pages 234-238.
    30th May 1827: They are anchored at Petsai awaiting, as ordered, first admiral Cochran on the "Hellas". They further report sighting, early in the morning, american frigate "Constitution" and another american trimasted merchantman coming from Napoli di Morea. The merchantman advises of two more american ships soon to arrive with provisions. Cochran on "Hellas" arrives 3pm same day.
    2nd June the Constitution sails for Hydra and they (the greek fleet) receive order to sail the 3rd June for Niocastro. They meet Cochran on the Hellas the 9th June.

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    Again a revelation came to Joseph Smith from The Lord...

    Part I

    We have been imagining lately, dear viewer, how Yanni d'Anastasy replaced John Allen (departing for the States) in supplying munition to Missolonghi in 1824 and how Edgar "Perry" enlisted on the "Constitution", shortly before the flagship met Cochran's "Hellas" off Petsai, and how he must have gotten hold of the late George Washington's diary (recording his previous relation to Yanni's "Ianthe")....

    ...and have thus been drifting away from our main course which should lead us, St Nicholas allowing, to 1835 Zante.

    No matter, we still have time to imagine a while longer:

    We just remembered a Mme detective-curator of B.Franklin's archive, how we asked her, long ago, to reveal to us the contents of a "Caccini" correspondend of Mr BFranklin but she, having developed a kind of maternal-patronising feeling towards Benzie, refused to answer back....

    Would you be so kind as to send me relative info and perhaps photos of ...b) From Caccini ?, ------. Dunkirk., to Benjamin Franklin 1779 February 17 A.L.S. 3p. XIII, 115.

    ...we wrote, daring the guess:

    Re the identity of the second of Franklin's correspondents Caccini(?): He is either Cassini Cesar Francois de Thury or Cachin Joseph Marie Francois or Georges- Luis "Le Rouge" , all apparently related to the first.

    The above tender memory of Mme Waswarderdamename came to being while looking at some maps and, guess what, the same instant, the very same, very enlightening, instant, we also remembered our young american nephew, Jim Couzyn, the head genealogist of the very dutch very Cyzyn family of Conewago!

    You may recall, dear viewer, his modest reaction to our claim that

    ....the true identity of Rev John Causse's predecessor, a Rev Baron Denys who first appears... at Fort Duquesne, at the confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers" (around 1755)

    .....was that of the parisian botanist, Claude Denis Cochin, father of today's Paris "Mercer Dynasty" as well as father or uncle or something of recollet Jean Baptiste Causse, friend of B.Franklin, a John "Balm" etc etc.

    A very modest reaction, nephew Jim's was, too modest in fact as a counter argument to such an "uprooting" statement!

    Yes, an important revelation came while yours truly was looking at some old US maps!

    Part II following

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