A lot of what you post is made up of logical abstracts of general findings from research.. I can't add my two cents to the issue due to my obtrusive lack of foreground knowledge on this subject but you would receive far more sophisticated and enlightening replies on a forum predominantly visited by posters who are appealed to the deciphering of meticulous details in classic mysteries.
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Silence, the merest word of all!
(Edgar AllEn Poe)
Thanks anyhow.
Why did Yanni decide to offload-sell to William of Orange the "monumental" Αβραχάς-Βάλσαμος-book of Moses papyrus (early 1828) while aware of the marriage of his Cochin Zante cousins to a Balsamo?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....odine/n494.htm links the "Concino's" Cozines directly to 1600's Leiden but there is a lot more to it than that:
As the convenient, purely profit motivated, "armenian collector" Yanni may have, until now, allowed theosophising aegyptologists their beauty sleep and laurels but, as the de Perceval-Valbelle and, moreover, as Champollion's friend and associate and, moreover as the one who provided in 1828 sufficient evidence to cripple Origenes's "structure", continued till now by the particular "west leaning orientalists", all in convenient positions of authority (all somehow related, one way or another, to Yanni's western part of the family and their "associates", their names not listed herein for reasons of etiquette only) this "new" Yanni now becomes the needle in the eye of their microscope if not the spark to light the purgatory fire and clean up their long frozen inferno.
Poor Giuseppe Balsamo: Last in the chain of command, first to fall in their Mizraim line of duty, victim to his own limitations and alliances, we'd ask him, had he been alive, just two questions:
Why did he select Rome this particular period of 1787-1789 and how did "His highly prized manuscript of Egyptian Masonry was seized, together with all his papers and correspondence" look like when "Suddenly, on the evening of December 27, 1789, he and his wife were arrested by the agents of the Inquisition and imprisoned in the castle of St. Angelo".
The first question is related to his 1785 confession, when arrested in Paris, that he had previously worked as "copyist" for cardinals York (Stuart) and Orsini, a confession that allowed his friends, at the time, to get his release and, as above, keep his precious "egyptian manuscript", the "monumental forgery" in all propability. Why did he select Rome? Did he really still have "friends" there, was he not satisfied already with his work, already evident in Paris ...
1789 On 23 June the Second Estate (4 bishops and 149 priests) threw in their lot with the Third Estate, but the King, instead of meeting their wishes, ordered out the National Guard against them. The citizens of Paris revolted and, on 14 July, stormed the Bastille. Many social changes followed, Church property was nationalized and non-charitable religious orders (Saint Benoit vs Saint Jacques?)Hand monasteries were closed. On 27 August the new French Assembly issued the Declaration of the Rights of Men, viz.: Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.
He was no fool, Giuseppe, dying a martyr's death was totaly foreign to his jewish-sicilian character and the time spent in Italy too long to persuade us of the opposite.
On the other hand, his true aegyptological credentials were no more than what his "Αβραχάς-Βάλσαμος" papyrus now shows: a large enough PGM scroll, crudely interfered upon, the one sought for by his Leiden "mercer" friends, the one in the hands of Yanni AFTER 1815.
And, as we have seen already, Napoleon, who went as far as to arrest Pius VI along with his trusted cardinal, the aegyptology expert and manuscript collector Stefano Borgia, was in excellent terms with the De Percevals to his fall.
(part II following)
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Stefano Borgia, 1770 secretary of the Congregation de Propaganda Fide, an office of which he naturally took advantage to acquire antiquities by the help of the missionaries...a cardinal in 1789...In the troubled period of the French invasion Borgia was given charge of Rome by Pius VI (1797-98). ....he was arrested (1798), but quickly released, whereupon he immediately resumed his studies and work of collecting; soon afterwards he joined Pius VI at Vallencia and endeavoured to have this pontiff send to Asia and Africa a body of missionaries who would preach the Gospel and gather various monuments.
General Berthier marched to Rome, entered it unopposed on 13 February 1798, and, proclaiming a republic, demanded of the pope the renunciation of his temporal authority. Upon his refusal he was taken prisoner, and on February 20 was escorted from the Vatican to Siena, and thence to the Certosa near Florence. The French declaration of war against Tuscany led to his removal, though by this time incredibly ill, by way of Parma, Piacenza, Turin and Grenoble to the citadel of Valence, where he died six weeks later, on August 29, 1799.
After Pius VI died in exile, Cardinal Borgia was of the greatest service to Pope Pius VII...In 1801 he was made Rector of the Collegium Romanum, and he was in the retinue of Pius VII when this pontiff went to France to crown the new emperor Napoleon. Having arrived at Lyons, Cardinal Borgia was taken ill and died. After his death his collection of Coptic manuscripts was divided: the non-Biblical manuscripts were taken to Naples and placed in the Biblioteca Barbonica, now the Biblioteca Nazional; and the Biblical manuscripts, excepting a few which were taken to Naples by mistake, given to the Propaganda....
We could go on listing the team of true orientalists working under Cardinal Borgia, his "fame" for not being carefull enough disposing his papyri around to other scholars more interested in science than theology, his friendship with Goethe, etc etc, but this goes beyond this forums limits as well as our 1835 object, so we'll just have to live with this "theory" re the provenance of the specific papyrus in Yanni's hands, a theory explaining his later treatment of the papyrus as well as the high "market value" of the "document".
Part III following
Yanni had already sold to the Louvre, via Henry Salt, a part of his collection in 1826 and was certainly in a difficult spot immediately after (1827), his old world gone, his father fighting the brits to the very end in Grambusa, the american frigate fiasco fully unfolded, their fortune "lost at sea", no chance to reclaim their french properties from Charles X, puppet of the British-Monrovian alliance, no more "egyptian interest" exhibited by Leopold of Austria, no chance of reclaiming his Florence-Venice property either, oh yes, he certainly was in urgent need of cash then but there were so many more "good" (scientific greek) papyri to dispose of, why did he sell this particular one incriminating his cousins?.
Well educated, extremely bright and, by then, an "aegyptologist" himself, Yanni certainly knew of the "Βάλσαμος improvement" on his "Αβραχάς papyrus", was propably also the original owner of Antonio Lebolo's 1826 mummies and was certainly aware of the PGM contents of the specific papyrus, later Jo Smith's "Book of Moses" and the use made thereof by his-Leiden rooted- Cozine american "PGM" cousins (including "Balm" Johnson and family as well as the beforementioned couple Demetrio-Giacomo de Dion. Cochini, noble de Zante et Anna, fille de Giorgio Balsamo, noble de Zante) re the "production" of a "most suitable" religion for the next "Promised Land".
Had he been in friendly terms with them he would have either refrained all together from selling the specific papyrus or, at least, he would have sold it in one piece to Leiden where William of Orange, already persuaded by Balsamo and hosting his descendants at the time, was also favourably inclined towards the Leiden Cozines and their western aspirations.
But Yanni did not do so: He sold part only of "Abraxas" to Leiden, other parts later on to other buyers, thus making sure, or so he thought, their "crime", for destroying "his East" for "their West", would soon be known.
He did not see it happening while alive but, as angels often do, he is also smiling now, a little brighter perhaps than his cousin Jorge.
This reply is for Yanni (postings 141-150) concerning the specuation that the ancestors of the Rev Cornelius Cozine of Conewago Colony in York Co. PA, (b 1718-d1786) are other than that which is posted at the Cozine Family website. I'm Jim Cozine (a 5th ggs of the Rev) and one of the main reseachers among the descendants group known as the Dutch Couisns - I think we can dismiss all your ideas with data in hand ( but not posted at the website). If you want to know more email me at [email protected]
In this particular case, Jim, (nice knowing you btw), facts on/actions by our forfathers, as laid out and logicaly (honouring "Logos") explained in previous text, are far "stronger", from the point of view of documentation, than birth records and other such data, "not already on the web" in particular.
Should you however wish to dispute any part of previous presentation, please do it herein, in public, including your explanation re
-Rev John "Causey"
-Caussin's manor
-the "unknown family sailor",
-the unknown "Washington" mother of George Washington Cozean, born 1802
AND.
-Cuszine (Cozine), John, 1:26(http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/index/colonial/list.html)
-” The judges and lawyers were followed by “John Lawrence, John Cozine, and Robert Troup, bearing the new Constitution elegantly engrossed on vellum, and ten students of law followed....."
http://www.bartleby.com/238/22.html#noteFN102
A new religion and a new constitution too?
The matter calls for an exclusively public discussion and there are quite a few
more things still "open".
BTW "Yanni's" name is Toni Cokkini, Athens, Greece.
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To the memory of Sir Robert Dudley, navigator, customer of Cocchini printers, Florence!
http://www.answers.com/topic/dell-arcano-del-mare:. "The six-volume work covered navigation, shipbuilding and astronomy, with 130 maps in two volumes (nos. 2 and 6) . Unlike the vast majority of his contemporaries, Dudley's maps are all his own and were not copied from other mapmakers."
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0829311.html "Robert Dudley's D' America XXXIII, the final chart in his Dell' Arcano del Mare of 1647, depicts the coastline of the region now called Cascadia -- northern California, Oregon, Washington, and, possibly, Vancouver Island. Strongly linked to Francis Drake's 1577-80 voyage of circumnavigation, the chart provides intriguing hints of other, unrecorded voyages into the waters of this coast. Even now, more than 350 years after it was drawn, it harbors several unresolved mysteries. "
Is the "Cuszine" gentleman below.....
-Cuszine (Cozine), John, 1:26(http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/index/colonial/list.html)
-” The judges and lawyers were followed by “John Lawrence, John Cozine, and Robert Troup, bearing the new Constitution elegantly engrossed on vellum, and ten students of law followed....."
http://www.bartleby.com/238/22.html#noteFN102
A new religion and a new constitution too?
...the same as John Balm Cozine?
Then- speculating ofcourse-his biographicaal details must be well known to american researchers, his choice for the "balm" name, his legal references, the University he graduaded from etc....
BTW are mormons the same as "amis" ? If they are, then their society's name points to France (Les Amis) as well.
The "unresolved mysteries" of Sir Robert Dudley's D'America XXXIII continue: The text quoted in post #159 above,.copypasted a year or so ago, has vanished in the meantime and, when Sir Robert's american expeditions are further examined, it is clear he never sailed as far North as Washington or Vancouver, ie the relative maps, added by Giuseppe Cocchini publishers in 1661 (cousins of US Caussins-Cozines), are most propably someoneelse's.
The matter "who discovered America?" already exhausted (without a definite reply) is of no particular importance re this thread, yet those interested to stake their claim for first settling there are advised to visit
http://geoweb.venezia.sbn.it/geoweb/...Americane.html. and further note that the existence of a "northtern passage" was already known in Plato's time. It was next attempted by a venetian sailor named "John Cabot" in the early 17th century. .
Part I
-1631 By his " De symbolica Aegyptiorum sapientia. Coloniae Agrippinae:
http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/collection/stirlingemblem.html", Jesuit Rev Nicolas "Caussin" or Caccini declares himself a "father of Aegyptology".
-1647-1661 the fiorentine-venetian-genoan-french sailors, royal printers and whatnot, Cocchini, (same family as french Cochin-Caussin-Caccini-Causse, later B.Franklin's friends), print Robert Dudley's Arcano del Mare demonstrate their particurar knowledge of US northern East Coast
-A french jesuit priest named Nicolas Caussin, relative of the previous (who +1651), first sets foot on Maryland, (St Mary's land), before 1640, marries a Jane Clark, has three sons, Ignatius, John and William and leaves a will in 1653.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/corzine/messages/240.html
-His son Ignatius succeeded him at St Mary's sometime 1648-1675
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb..../g0000086.html
http://gennotes.150m.com/clarkapp.html
-In Williamsburg, Queens, NY, the Cozines own the "schoonmakers" yard:
...a John Cozine was an early settler in this vicinity. He owned the farm of the
late Nicholas Schoonmaker..Francis White’s farm has been occupied by his family since about 1700. His grandfather, Thomas White, kept the king’s store in Maspeth before the Revolution.http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/...y/newtown.html
etc etc etc
Further the contents of the Announcement as well as the above, we fully understand the problematic of "Dutch" or "German" Cuzyns to our documenting the french provenance and true identity of Conewago Rev Cornelius, ie Claude-Denys Cochin or Baron Denys:
As father of all "Cozines" who had a role to play in US history, Rev Cornelius has been the subject of research of many descendants and relatives, unlike the "Cornelii" in simultaneous existence, the cause possibly of the fuss and misunderstanding.
Noteworthy that these "historicaly important" Coz(s)ines have also escaped the attention and scrutiny of historians and, whereas Robert Troop's biography is on the web (Wikipedia) and John Lawrence, a merchant (descendant of Newtown, Brooklyn, founder Thomas Lawrence, 1667) is also to be found in "The Atlantic Crossing" (Time-Life books, Amsterdam, page 48, his ship The Brilliant, Norfolk VA, a tobacco brig bought off by the british admiralty in her first trip to Liverpool, 1775) John Cozine, the other legal expert of the sacred US Constitution, still remains a mystery, at least in the web published family endeavours by his descendants.
Confident that they (Rev Cornelius's descendants) are the same as the french "Mercer dynasty" who also appear, as previously mentioned, 1790-1836 in Zante as "Cochini", we'll next endeavour to further trace them, the lawyer "John Cozine" 1790-1836 in particular, on the web.
yanni, just curious, you cite a lot of digitized/online/web published sources and /or transcribed/interpreted sources of info. How much do you rely on *primary* sources for your research here?
John Balm Cozine, 1722-1798, of unknown father named John, grandson either of Rev Cornelius or his brother, Gerard, propably with a Balsamo mother, his daughter Eliza Althea Cozine born 1785....MARRIED In N. York, Mr John Marshall, of Charleston, S. C. to Miss Eliza Cozine, daughter of the late John Cozine, Esq. ( John Marshall, Federalist Chief Justice of the United States after A.Burr as per http://freepages.history.rootsweb.co...g2/Chap04.html)
1792 John Cozine is granted a piece of Jay, Vermont
..... the legislature decided that “the tract of land called Carthage is an uncommonly good one, and that it should be erected into a township by the name of Jay.” One third of the territory was granted to Gov.Thomas Chittenden, and the remaining two thirds to John Jay and John Cozine, of New York.
(From same site: 1805-1806:“Voted, That Louisa Tolman, an indifferent person, be and is appointed to draw the numbers in the Draft.” John Jay drew 112 lots and John Cozine sixteen. “Draft of that Part of the Northern Division of the township of Jay that was drawn to John Jay, Esquire, by the proprietors of said part of Jay and now divided between John Jay, Esq., and Azarias Williams, this 24th day of November, 1806.”.... The first saw-mill was built in 1822, by Solomon Wolcott, on the Branch, twenty or thirty rods below the present mill site and below the covered bridge. It was carried off the following summer by high water, and was never rebuilt. The house was built upon the bluff on the south side of the stream, and was occupied by a man by the name of White, who run the mill. The next built was a saw-mill erected by Ithamar Hadlock, on the Cook brook, just below the present dam. The precise date cannot be ascertained, but was about 1830. Hadlock sold Ebenezer Brewer a half interest, April 16, 1835, and the whole interest June 22, 1838.)http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/OrleansJay.html
1794: John Cozine vs Aaron Burr (who was appointed Oct 1792 by Governor Clinton as judge of the supreme court):
The opinion of Rufus King in this case was concurred in by Stephen Lush, T. V. W. Graham, and Abraham Van Vechten, of Albany; Richard Harrison, John Lawrence, John Cozine, Cornelius J. Bogart, Robert Troup, James M. Hughes, and Thomas Cooper, of New-York....
for
"An act for the more effectual protection of the southwestern frontier settlers." Unsuccessful efforts were made by Colonel Burr and others to amend it(missing webreference)
1798 April-June: John Cozine is among the "young federalists" who ardently support the notion of a war against jacobin France. The notion failed but some 900 young men then declared their willingness to serve abroad defending the interests of the US (see: PICTORIAL FIELD-BOOK OF THE WAR OF 1812.BY BENSON J. LOSSING 1869 at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.co...g2/Chap04.html) as follows:
1798 John Balm Cozine: Died of yellow fever September 15,
1809 Cozine street, Greenwich Village, NY:
Just after Paine's death a street was cut through, called Cozine Street. Names were fleeting affairs in early and fast-growing New York, and the one street from Cozine became Columbia, then Burrows, and last of all Grove, which it remains today.... The Commissioners replanning New York desired to pay Paine's memory a compliment and on opening up the street parallel with Grove, they called it Reason Street, for the " Age of Reason." This was objected to by many bigots (who had never read the book) and some tactful diplomat suggested giving it the French twist—Raison Street. Already they had the notion that French could cover a multitude of sins. Even this was too closely suggestive of Tom Paine, " the infidel," so it was shamelessly corrupted to Raisin! Consider the street named originally in honour of the author of the " Age of Reason," eventually called for a dried grape! This too passed, and if you go down there now you will find it called Barrow Street.
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles13...illage-5.shtml
PS to "Logos": Source (primary or not) reliability has often been addressed in The Announcement. You don't really believe that such persons, famous for their multiple personnae, can be traced without source interpretation, by itself an art!
Recap.
Imagine yourself finding, in the ruins of your late granparents house, a large oil canvas under the rubble: You'd propably dust and study it next: Wear and tear, you can make out just parts of the picture, know it's by an old master and think there maybe a message in it for you, how it all happened, how did we all end in here, what do you do?
You examine it more, hours and hours, you read about art, techniques, methods and materials and, if you are lucky enough, you "see" more parts, amazing parts but, unlucky you, realise they are not all from the same hand, your canvass the work of many artists, "masters of disguise" to be precise, their messages so hard to read ....what then?
Experts and historians, you next call, refuse to touch your piece, name the masters, interpret the work, face the glow, turn their backs to you and dissappear, they infuriate you.
Later, when you have also seen through the beginning and the end, or so you think, the former crafted by your kin, the latter by someone else who left his rust and torn the work, blood splatters all over blurring the message and cutting your communications long ago, what do you do then?
You go on in the heat, can't back away now, keep on shouting on deaf ears, blame your ignorance, learn in an hour what you have ignored a lifetime, use every means available and, lucky you(!), find next another man's work on your painting, an american, a famous poet and, unlucky you(!), another riddle himself!
You find the strength to quickly relearn all you need then, get to know him better, trust him, interpret him, fascinated, his work, your understanding, keep on stretching your brains to limits never tried before, read anything relevant, wishfull thoughts and mistakes, the painting's message still unclear but the title now reads "roots of globalism", unlucky you, **@%$&#, the cherry to your pie, grind your teeth, go on, forget the heat.
The web, a Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve long gone, get back in the desert, face the army of veiled sheiks ready to tear you down, who are you insolent nobody telling us you know better, but no, you have done your homework, a virtual army, just you, your claim public but blinding the light and your course unsure, climb up that fossiltree for direction, Don Quichotte or SanGiorgio, the mill towers in the distance and the dragon below ready to devour you, fool him, cuddle him, kill him, do something.
You next see shadows moving under the brilliant crust, hear their call faintly at first, louder next, talking strange tonques, bits of their story, enough to read "WE", two letters, blessed be simplicity, you think, but maybe wrong, big is the desert, can't be just you, not just WE the towers and the dragon, there maybe, must be, others here, find them, call them, wake them up, make them talk, force them say their piece but no, not a sound, not a soul, not a word, just you and your thoughts, just you and your mended canvass, just you and this carcass of a dragon and the laugh of Apollo πανδαμάτωρ above all.
Such is the present status or recap of The Announcement, reader......καί ο νοών νοείτο.
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