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    Part1 Back to “Voltaire” and his relations to the jacobites of James II *1688

    According to Voltaire foundation article “Voltaire and the Jacobites”, of 20 March 2017 :

    Voltaire was much better disposed towards the Scots Jacobites, as shown in the description of the ’45 rebellion included in his Précis du Siècle de Louis XV. In the course of that famous uprising, Voltaire had gone so far as to write a manifesto for Bonnie Prince Charlie (grandson of the deposed James II),He later befriended the Scottish Jacobite exile Field Marshall Keith, whose eulogy he wrote in 1758. He was less positive towards the Chevalier Andrew Michael Ramsay, a Scots convert to Catholicism and follower of Fénelon who once tutored Prince Charles Edward Stuart (‘Bonnie Prince Charlie’). Voltaire sniffed at Ramsay as a plagiarist.Voltaire never dismissed Jacobitism as backward or despotic. His positive attitude may have been shaped by his early friendships with Viscount Bolingbroke, an exiled Tory minister who was attracted to Jacobitism at various phases of his long career, and bishop Atterbury of Rochester. Bolingbroke welcomed Voltaire to his house at La Source near Orléans in December 1722. The Viscount admired the young French poet, but warned him to restrain the influence of his imagination. Bolingbroke also consulted Alexander Pope*1688 on the merits of Voltaire’s pirated epic, La Ligue, the first version of La Henriade. The image of King Henry IV of France presented in that poem may have appealed to Bolingbroke, who had tried in vain to persuade the Stuart claimant, James III, to change his religion in order to gain a throne.

    Indeed (mystery1) while Voltaire did correspond (some 20000-40000 letters) with most of Jacobilte leaders and other European celebrities of his time , he NEVERr corresponded with James II the old pretender and his aliases such as, for instance. Frederic William I of Prussia I*1688), even if he did have a very long correspondence with his son,. Frederick the Great. He also received Nov. 12, 1770 a letter from Frederic William II, grand son of Frederick William I, wanting to get to know him better . He propably did not answer it as he was at the time busy with Jakob Jonas Björnståhl (January 23, 1731 in Rotarbo – July 11, 1779 in Thessaloniki), orientalist,Greek philologis and a manuscript collector.

    Voltaire also corresponded with George Keith, tenth and last Earl Marischal, a close associate of the old pretender King James . as follows:

    In December, 1756, George Keith, Earl Marischal of Scotland (whom Voltaire had met in Prussia), arrived at Les Délices to plead with the man who was fast becoming Humanitarian-in-Chief of Europe to defend Admiral Byng--now arraigned on a charge of treason and cowardice. Voltaire wrote to his friend Richelieu, who replied in the first of the following letters, vindicating the character and conduct of his foe. Voltaire sent a copy of this letter to Byng with his own. He had met the Admiral many years before in England, but judged it better not to mention the acquaintance. The third letter--Voltaire to Richelieu--shows the fruitlessness of their efforts. Notwithstanding the recommandation to mercy, Byng was shot on March 14, 1757, and his defender, the author of Candide, added to it an immortel phrase, "In this country (England) it is as well to put an admiral to death now and then, to encourage the others." ]

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    Back to “Voltaire” and his relations to the jacobites of James II *1688 Part2

    Back to “Voltaire” and his relations to the jacobites of James II *1688 Part2

    Richelieu was at his highs at the time having done his at best the siege of Fort St Philip, also known as the siege of Minorca, 20 April to 29 June 1756 during the Seven Years' War. Its capture by France threatened the British naval position in the Western Mediterranean and it was returned after the Treaty of Paris (1763).

    Thus the next Mysteries arise

    Mystery 2 Why did the old Pretendeer, alive at the time, did not support Admiral Byng?

    Mystery 3. Why the Byng case is not mentioned in George Keith’s Wikipedia biography?

    Mystery 4. Why did Charles Edward , the young pretender aka Gioachino Cocchi, did not help Byng? He had the time to do it, between Emira, dramma per musica da rappresentarsi nel Regio-Ducal Teatro di Milano, nel Carnovale dell'anno 1756. Dedicato a sua altezza serenissima il Duca di Modena, and his next Farsetta in musica (Angelo Lunghi? - Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi, 1757)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A...ally-Tollendal

    To close with another nr 5 topic with Voltaire in his death bed in Paris Hotel Villette , May 26 1778, seeking absolvance for his failure to save the life of Thomas Arthur, comte de Lally “ a staunch Jacobite who in 1745 accompanied Charles Edward Stuart (Prince Regent, or Bonnie Prince Charlie aka Gioachino Cocchi) to Scotland, serving as aide-de-camp at the battle of Falkirk (January 1746). Escaping to France, he served with Marshal Saxe in the Low Countries, and at the capture of Maastricht (1748) was made a maréchal de camp. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A...ally-Tollendal
    https://www.whitman.edu/VSA/letters/5.26.1778.html

    "On May 26th, the judicial murder committed by Pasquier (Councillor to the Parliament) upon the person of Lally was avenged by the Council of the King." Louis XVI in council publicly vindicated General Lally.
    By a last mighty effort, the dying man recalled the splendid intellect, now waning fast, which had so nobly served him, and dictated the following letter to the Comte de Lally-Tollendal”(son of Thomas Arthur” . Then he made someone write in a large hand on a sheet of paper, which he caused to be pinned to his bed hangings, the following words:
    It was his last conscious act. He died four days later, on May 30, 1778. There have been few men with whom the ruling passion of hatred of tyranny, oppression, injustice, has been so strong in death: and better men, who, in their last hours have found it impossible to think of any soul but their own. ]

    The text of Voltaire's letter runs only two lines.
    May 26, 1778. The dying man returns to life on hearing this great news: he tenderly embraces M. de Lally: he sees that the King is the defender of justice: and he dies content
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    In other words, dear readers, “Volta-ire” was only a much needed mask created by James Francis Edward Stuart , last roman catholic King of England , to overcome protestant objections and then conquer and shape his 18th century .

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    Doctor who ensured a positive outcome of Mary of Modena's pregnacy- ie JFEStuart 's father was:

    Jan Antonín Cassinis de "Bugella" (De Mugello, Italy obviously), 1659-1719, Rector of Karls-Universität

    https://aleph.vkol.cz/F?func=find-c&...cal_base=svk01

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    Re François Jean de Beauvoir, Marquis de Chastellux :
    (5 May 1734*, in Paris – 24 October 1788, in Paris) his works Travels in North-America, in the Years 1780, 1781, and 1782. London: G.G.J. and J. Robinson, 1787
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    *birth/death data etc not at all supported by footnotes.

    Charles-Antoine Campion, italianized as Carlo Antonio Campioni (16 November 1720 – 12 April 1788[1]) was a French-Italian composer who was born in Lorraine, France. He was a prolific composer and represented a link between Baroque compositional methods and those of the Classical style whose career as from 1775ish was interrupted! (same as “Gioachino Cocchi” ie Charles Edward Stuart (*31 December 1720 , + 30 January 1788)**

    Death of “Voltaire” ie James Francis Edward Stuart The Old Pretender May 26, 1778

    **Charles Edward’s biographer Hugh Douglas An Honorary Chaplain to the Queen from 1959 he died on 4 January 1986.
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    My mistake!

    He was indeed promoted by Frederick Wilhelm, King of Prussia *1688 (aka James Francis Edward Stuart aka "Voltaire" etc) but at the time öf Catherine's conception his relationship with her mother, favouring the King), had taken a dive so he had him posted at Stettin, Poland!

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    previous post refers to #393!

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    Campioni pieces with harpsicord https://www.google.com/search?q=Char...TRaMn0P1g,st:0

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    An important alias of JFEStuart aka Voltaire etc:

    René-Charles de Maupeou, seigneur du marquisat de La Mothe-Chandeniers, vicomte de Bruyères, *11 juin 1688 +4 avril 1775

    en août 1710. René-Charles, d'abord avocat au Châtelet (1708), devint conseiller en la 1re Chambre des enquêtes

    Le 24 février 1712, il est reçu conseiller du roi et maître des requêtes. ,

    le 4 février 1712, Maupeou est reçu conseiller du roi et maître des requêtesai 1712 il épouse Anne-Victoire de Lamoignon. En entrant dans cette famille parlementaire déjà célèbre, il pense peut-être à rentrer dans la magistrature et à y trouver des appuis mais, en réalité, il n'y rencontrera que des rivaux et des adversaires.

    conc july 1713 his son René-Nicolas-Charles-Augustin de Maupeou, né le 25 février 1714 à Montpellier et mort le 29 juillet 1792 au Thuit2, est un magistrat et homme d'État français.

    Le 2 août 1717, il rentre au parlement de Paris en achetant la charge de président à mortier de Jean-Jacques Charron, marquis de Ménars. Au sujet de cet achat, Saint-Simon a
    noté : « Maupeou, maître des requêtes, fit un marché extraordinaire avec Ménars, président à mortier, pour s'assurer sa charge et lui en laisser la jouissance sa vie durant à certaines conditions. Le prix fut de sept cent cinquante mille livres et vingt mille de pot-de-vin. Je ne marque cette bagatelle que parce que le même Maupeou est devenu premier président et a fait passer à son fils sa charge de président à mortier, tous deux avec réputation. »2 Malgré ce prix exorbitant,

    23 mars 1718 Maupeou ne fit pas une si mauvaise affaire puisque Ménars étant mort dès l'année suivante il prit possession de son mortier le 23 mars 1718 et se trouva ainsi, à trente ans, l'un des plus jeunes président de la Grand-Chambre.

    Le 2 août 1717, Maupeou rentre au parlement de Paris en achetant la charge de président à mortier de Jean-Jacques Charron, marquis de Ménars

    le 23 mars 1718 Maupeou ne fit pas une si mauvaise affaire puisque Ménars étant mort dès l'année suivante il prit possession de son mortier et se trouva ainsi, à trente ans, l'un des plus jeunes président de la Grand-Chambre.

    1er octobre 1743 Vingt-cinq ans plus tard, Maupeou il en sera le plus ancien et c'est peut-être l'une des raisons qui détermineront Louis XV à le mettre à la tête du parlement de Paris en l'en nommant premier président, le 1er octobre 1743.

    décembre 1743 Il y en avait d'autres, parmi lesquelles des qualités naturelles, qui le désignaient pour ce poste d'importance.
    On croit — écrit Barbier dans son Journal en décembre 1743 — que cela tend à traiter directement avec M. le Premier Président des affaires où on aura besoin d'enregistrement, et que peu à peu on travaille peut-être à éloigner les remontrances et les députations de robins dont les figures ne plaisent pas en Cour »5. De fait, pendant cinq ans, René-Charles de Maupeou réussi à bien tenir en main sa compagnie. Il est aimé de ses collègues qui apprécient son aisance, la distinction de sa parole et la dignité avec laquelle il préside.

    22 septembre 1757 Maupeou 1688 l quitte la première présidence, le 22 septembre 1757 : « ayant trahi tout le monde, il avait perdu la confiance de tout le monde » (Michel Antoine). Le roi nomma à sa place Mathieu-François Molé.

    There is no english translation in Wiki's article!

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    Google translate... a few errors:

    "René-Charles de Maupeou, lord of the marquisate of La Mothe-Chandeniers, viscount of Bruyères, *June 11, 1688 +April 4, 1775

    in August 1710. René-Charles, first lawyer at Châtelet (1708), became advisor to the 1st Chamber of Investigations

    On February 24, 1712, he was received as advisor to the king and master of requests. ,

    On February 4, 1712, Maupeou was received as advisor to the king and master of requests. In 1712 he married Anne-Victoire de Lamavoine. By entering this already famous parliamentary family, he perhaps thought of entering the judiciary and finding support there but, in reality, he would only encounter rivals and adversaries.

    conc July 1713 his son René-Nicolas-Charles-Augustin de Maupeou, born February 25, 1714 in Montpellier and died July 29, 1792 in Thuit2, is a French magistrate and statesman.

    On August 2, 1717, he returned to the parliament of Paris by purchasing the office of president from Jean-Jacques Charron, Marquis de Ménars. Regarding this purchase, Saint-Simon
    noted: “Maupeou, master of requests, made an extraordinary deal with Ménars, president of mortar, to secure his office and let him enjoy it for his life under certain conditions. The price was seven hundred and fifty thousand pounds and twenty thousand in bribe. I only mark this trifle because the same Maupeou became first president and passed his office of mortar president to his son, both with reputation. »2 Despite this exorbitant price,

    March 23, 1718 Maupeou did not make such a bad deal since Ménars having died the following year he took possession of his mortar and thus found himself, at thirty years old, one of the youngest presidents of the Grand Chamber.

    October 1, 1743 Twenty-five years later, Maupeou will be the oldest and this is perhaps one of the reasons which will determine Louis XV to put him at the head of the Paris parliament by appointing him its first president , October 1, 1743.

    December 1743 There were others, including natural qualities, which qualified him for this important position.
    We believe - writes Barbier in his Journal in December 1743 - that this tends to deal directly with Mr. the First President of the affairs where we will need recording, and that little by little we are perhaps working to distance the remonstrances and the deputations of Robins whose faces do not please in Court”5. In fact, for five years, René-Charles de Maupeou managed to manage his company well. He is loved by his colleagues who appreciate his ease, the distinction of his words and the dignity with which he presides.

    September 22, 1757 Maupeou 1688 left the first presidency on September 22, 1757: “having betrayed everyone, he had lost everyone's trust” (Michel Antoine). The king appointed Mathieu-François Molé in his place."

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    Good work, thanks Tailor!

    Imo he was not really a "Robin" nor a Robin Hood: Failing to regain his Kingdom in England or France , he strictly adhered to Machiavelli's principles and while promoting "social ïdeals", only really cared for his interests, increasing by all means his own fortune.His son René-Nicolas-Charles-Augustin de Maupeou followed suit, hence the french revolution!

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    Ah, now it makes more sense

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    As for " Maupeou 1688 left the first presidency on September 22, 1757":

    He left Paris to return , as King Frederick Wilhelm of Prussia*1688, and support his son Frederick the Great fighting the French and the Austrians at the time.

    November 5 1757– Seven Years' War – Battle of Rossbach: Frederick defeats the French-Imperial army under the Duc de Soubise and Prince Joseph of Saxe-Hildburghausen, forcing the French to withdraw from Saxony.

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