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    The bourgeoisification of Labour isn’t new. It was catalogued in Orwell’s scabrously.

    The bourgeoisification of Labour isn’t new. It was catalogued in Orwell’s scabrously entertaining dissection of socialism COLUMNS By David Starkey June 2021 I have led a sheltered life and have no idea what Starkey is talking about. Can someone help me?

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    I was once asked to do the communist movement a big favor. What was the big favor? To resign from the communist movement.

    However, I have read extensively of Marxist literature, including Marx, Engels, Lenin, & Trotsky. And I have never heard of anything called the "bourgeoisification of labor". In addition, I never heard anyone discuss the subject of the "bourgeoisification of labor" at work when I was a longshoreman (dockworker). Had someone brought up the "bourgeoisification of labor" at work, I'm sure we would've had great fun discussing the subject, as we were always joking around.

    I don't believe we are allowed to discuss politics on this site. I don't know why. So unfortunately, I won't be able to say anymore.

    But I do believe we're allowed to discuss cannibalism. So anytime you would like to discuss cannibalism, I would be happy to join in on the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfLarsen View Post
    I was once asked to do the communist movement a big favor. What was the big favor? To resign from the communist movement.

    However, I have read extensively of Marxist literature, including Marx, Engels, Lenin, & Trotsky. And I have never heard of anything called the "bourgeoisification of labor". In addition, I never heard anyone discuss the subject of the "bourgeoisification of labor" at work when I was a longshoreman (dockworker). Had someone brought up the "bourgeoisification of labor" at work, I'm sure we would've had great fun discussing the subject, as we were always joking around.

    I don't believe we are allowed to discuss politics on this site. I don't know why. So unfortunately, I won't be able to say anymore.

    But I do believe we're allowed to discuss cannibalism. So anytime you would like to discuss cannibalism, I would be happy to join in on the discussion.
    My question was literature based not political. And I'm still looking for an answer.

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    Yes Wolf, kindly do a piece on cannibalism.

    I came across the practice in Papua New Guinea, where not too long ago Methodist ministers had been sent to convert the hill tribes and got eaten. Then of course there was the case of the plane crash in the Andes where they ended up eating each other. Hunger really is the best sauce.

    Sorry BML, but are you referring to "labour" (generally), or the Labour Party of the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN View Post
    Yes Wolf, kindly do a piece on cannibalism.

    I came across the practice in Papua New Guinea, where not too long ago Methodist ministers had been sent to convert the hill tribes and got eaten. Then of course there was the case of the plane crash in the Andes where they ended up eating each other. Hunger really is the best sauce.

    Sorry BML, but are you referring to "labour" (generally), or the Labour Party of the UK?
    "The bourgeoisification of Labour isn’t new. It was catalogued in Orwell’s scabrously entertaining dissection of socialism" Written as a comment on Liddle by Starkey neither really worth worrying about.

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    Yes I could answer this question, but probably not as good as a real communist, as I am only a sympathizer, and a crazy sympathizer at that, but I don’t want to get into trouble for discussing politics, oh but he was talking about literature, well in that case I can’t really give you an informed opinion, because I really only know about the bourgeoisfication of the Labour Party, and other parties falsely claiming to be for the workers, like the “Workers Party” of Brazil, but if I were to start talking about that, I could get in a lot of trouble, you know with the moderator and all, but what about cannibalism?
    I think it’s okay to eat the priest if you’re just in the hills or the rain forest or something and they’re coming to bother you about their religion, you know the priest and all that. I was in northern Brazil, and it’s terrible these Protestant preachers going into the rain forest to bring the indigenous people religion & diseases and all that. I mean, a lot of these tribes don’t really have much resistance to influenza. It’s terrible! So I think it’s okay if the tribal peoples eat the missionaries. I would be happy to assist them in eating the missionaries, but I don’t want to give the tribal people my diseases. I think the tribal people of the rain forest have enough trouble as it is without Wolf Larsen bringing them herpes, influenza, & covid 19.
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    George Orwell criticised socialists (I suppose Labour Party members) in the second half of The Road to Wigan Pier. He regarded many of them as weird-beards, vegetarians and sandal wearers. It was a long time ago when I read the book, but I was surprised by some of the criticism. I suppose Orwell thought here was a political party set up to represent the interests of coal miners, factory workers, dock workers and their wives, and it was run by people who had never done a day's manual labour in their lives. I thought Orwell was a little unfair. The Labour Party always had middle class involvement. It was partly set up by the Fabian Society, who were a group of left wing, largely middle class intellectuals.
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    There were also a group of socialists which the Islington "intellectuals" immediately made clear on the inception of the new party would be kept as far away as possible from pursuing their dream of socialism as possible and the divide still exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN View Post
    Yes Wolf, kindly do a piece on cannibalism.

    I came across the practice in Papua New Guinea, where not too long ago Methodist ministers had been sent to convert the hill tribes and got eaten. Then of course there was the case of the plane crash in the Andes where they ended up eating each other. Hunger really is the best sauce.

    Sorry BML, but are you referring to "labour" (generally), or the Labour Party of the UK?
    By the way, there is a trend in Brazilian art and literature called "Cannibalism". It is a way of gobbling up foreign, specially European influences and transforming them into national art.

    https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/a/anthropophagia
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    Admire the honesty of their terminology Danik.

    Not "Assimilation," but "Cannibalism," dovetailing with the national historical culture of fine dining !!

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    Some more Antropofagy



    Some of the more famous paintings by Tarsila do Amaral, a icon of Brazilian Modernism in the first decades of 20eth C:
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    What has Tarsila have to do with the original post?

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    Nothing. But there were some jokes about cannibalism. I wanted to give an example of cannibalism in art.

    Sorry for straying from the first subject.
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    Art is much more interesting, just as side alleys are sometimes more bewitching than the main drag.

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