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yanni · 04-16-2006, 04:04 AM

The "musical" part of this family history research has been neglected thus far, Giulio and Francesca Caccini, the opera founders, only briefly mentioned in "What's in a name?" post along with the "Cochi" name version of the fiorentines.

Gioachino Cocchi, another opera composer, unlike his contemporary musicians, has been deprived of a decent biography, propably because he, "Gioachino", was another alias of Saint Germain himself.

Music "scholars" even disagree on Gioachino's life span, some claiming he was born in Padova, 1720 and died "after 1788", others do not define the place of his 1714 birth and ask themselves if Venice was where he really died in 1804.

Taking therefore Mr Goncour's word for granted, we can safely say that Paris is where he was born in 1714 or 13 and Hydra is where he died in 1803 (as mentioned in previous posts).

Gioachino is known to have composed some 50 music opera pieces and to have been Haymarket theater's manager in London from 1757 to 1762 being then replaced by noneother than J.C.Bach himself, and to have then remained in London for the better part of the next ten years or so, ie until about 1772.

Many of his music works were published there by a Mr I.Walsh during 1758-1776, the last being the folowing:

Le Delizie dell'Opere. Being a Collection of all the Favourite Songs in Score, collected from the Operas compos'd by Bach, Perez, Cocchi, Ciampi, Jomelli, Giardini, Galuppi, Vinci, Pergolesi, Leo, Lampugnani, Terradellas, Hasse, Porpora, C. St Germain, Pescetti, Veracini, Bononcini
ISBN: B0000CV06Q / Unknown Binding
Publisher: Printed for I. Walsh / 1776
http://www.bookfinder4u.co.uk/book_s.../D_Cocchi.html

In other words Saint Germain "the immortal", was an unbelievably complex personality with a great sense of humor, a biographer's true nightmare.

Below:
a) a 1763 "Walsh" book copypasted for the biography details .........

1763. COCCHI, Gioacchino ca. 1720 - after 1788. Sixteen Songs and Duets With a Thorough Bass for the Harpsichord Also Adapted for the Violin, Hautboy, German Flute, Guitar & Violoncello. [Vocal score]. Opera LXIII. London: 1763. Oblong octavo. Modern half dark orange leather with marbled boards. 1f. (title), 1f. (dedication), pp. 1-8, [9] (blank), 10-16, [17] (blank), 18-60 (some browning and staining to title-page; occasional minor foxing and browning). Engraved throughout, with engraver's name to foot of last page (Pasquali). First Edition. BUC p. 202. RISM C3239 (4 copies only, one in the U.S.). Cocchi was music director at the Haymarket Theatre in London from 1757 to 1762. "During the next five seasons he supervised the production of opere serie, composed several himself and contributed to pasticcios." Cocchi was succeeded by J.C. Bach at the Haymarket in 1762, but continued to live in London for about ten more years, during which time he published several collections of chamber arias and duets, this being one of them. He was also much in demand as a singing teacher. Grove VI, Vol. 4 p. 509.http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/lub/12182.shtml

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b) a list of perfromances of "Joachino's" plays, indicatory of the mobility and the approximate whereabouts of their creator as well. Noteworthy his "egyptian or eastern" works after 1745 (first trip of Lazarus Cochini to Alexandria in 1745. Note also: Saint Germain's italian trip with de Marigny, Mme Pombadour's brother, Dec 1749 to Sept 1751) as well as his London performances AFTER 1761 (Second voyage of Lazarus C to Alexandria in 1757)

Cocchi, Gioacchino
* ca. 1715
† 1804 in Venedig (?)
La Matilde comedia per musica 2 Akte
Antonio Palomba (Winter 1739 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
Adelaide dpm 3 Akte
Antonio Salvi (Karneval 1743 Rom, Teatro Alibert o delle Dame)
L'Elisa commedia per musica 3 Akte
Palomba (Herbst 1744 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
L'Irene commedia per musica 3 Akte
Domenico Canicà (Frühjahr 1745 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
L'ipocondriaco risanato intermezzo 2 Akte
Carlo Goldoni (Karneval 1746 Rom, Teatro Valle)
Bajazette dpm 3 Akte
Agostino Piovene (Karneval 1746 Rom, Teatro Alibert o delle Dame)
I due fratelli beffati commedia per musica 3 Akte
Eugenio Pigrugispano (Winter 1746 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo)
La maestra commedia per musica 3 Akte
Palomba (Karneval 1747 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo); rev. als La scuola moderna Herbst 1748 Venedig; 11. März 1749 London, King's Theatre; als La Scaltra Governatrice 25. Jan. 1753 Paris, Académie de musique
Merope dpm 3 Akte
Apostolo Zeno (20. Jan. 1748 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo)
Siface dpm 3 Akte
Pietro Metastasio (Karneval 1749 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo)
Arminio dpm 3 Akte
Salvi (Karneval 1749 Rom, Teatro di Torre Argentina)
La serva bacchettona commedia per musica 3 Akte
Palomba (Frühjahr 1749 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
La Gismonda commedia 3 Akte
Palomba (Frühjahr 1750 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
Bernardone commedia 3 Akte
Palomba (Karneval 1750 Palermo, Teatro privato Valguarner)i
Siroe, re di Persia dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Karneval 1750 Venedig, Teatro San Giovanni Grisostomo)
La mascherata dramma comico 3 Akte
Goldoni (27. Dez. 1751 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano)
Le donne vendicate dramma comico 3 Akte
Goldoni (Karneval 1751 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano)
Nitocri dpm 3 Akte
Zeno (26. Dez. 1751 Turin, Teatro Regio)
Sesostri, re d'Egitto dpm 3 Akte
Zeno und Pietro Pariati (30. Mai 1752 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo)
Il tutore commedia 2 Akte
Vincenzo Puccinelli (Karneval 1752 Rom, Teatro Valle)
Il finto cieco melodramma 2 Akte
Pietro Trinchera (Herbst 1752 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo); gemeinsam mit Pasquale Errichelli
La serva astuta commedia per musica 3 Akte
Antonio Palomba, nach Goldoni
Frühjahr 1753 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini (gemeinsam mit Pasquale Errichelli)
Semiramide riconosciuta dramma 3 Akte
Metastasio (Karneval 1753 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano); 1771 London, King's Theatre
Rosmira fedele dramma 3 Akte
Silvio Stampiglia (Himmelfahrtstag 1753 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele)
Il pazzo glorioso dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Antonio Villani (Herbst 1753 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano)
Il finto turco commedia 2 Akte
Antonio Palomba/P. Errichelli (Winter 1753 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini (rev. Fassung Winter 1753 ebd.); gemeinsam mit Errichelli
Le nozze di Monsù Fagotto intermezzo 2 Akte (zus. mit G. B. Pescetti)
Angelu Lunghi (Karneval 1754 Rom, Teatro Valle)
Tamerlano dramma 3 Akte
Agostino Piovene (Karneval 1754 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele)
Metastasio (Himmelfahrtstag 1754 Venedig, Teatro Vendramin a San Salvatore)
Li matti per amore dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Genuaro Antonio Federico (Herbst 1754 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele)
Il terrazzano intermezzi per musica (Karneval 1754 Florenz, Teatro del Cocomero); 1764 London, King's Theatre
Il cavaliere errante op.buf.
Agostino Medici (Karneval 1755 Ferrara, Teatro Bonacossi)
Andromeda dpm 3 Akte
Vittorio Amadeo Cigna-Santi (Karneval 1755 Turin, Teatro Regio)
Artaserse dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Karneval 1755 Reggio Emilia, Teatro Moderno)
Zoe dpm 3 Akte
Francesco Silvani (26. Dez. 1755 Venedig, Teatro San Benedetto)
Emira dpm 3 Akte (Jan. 1756 Mailand, Regio Ducal Teatro)
Farsetta in musica commedia 2 Akte
Lunghi? (Karneval 1757 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Demetrio, re di Siria dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (8. Nov. 1757 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Zenobia dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (10. Jan. 1758 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Issipile dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Frühjahr 1758 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Ciro riconosciuto dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Frühjahr 1759 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
La clemenza di Tito dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (5. Jan. 1760 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Erginda dpm 3 Akte
nach M. Noris (Frühjahr 1760 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Tito Manlio dramma 3 Akte
Noris (7. Febr. 1761 London, King's Theatre)
Alessandro nelle Indie dramma 3 Akte
Metastasio (13. Okt. 1761 London, King's Theatre)
Le nozze di Dorina dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Goldoni (Frühjahr 1762 London, King's Theatre)
La famiglia in scompiglio dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Giovan Gualberto Bottarelli (Herbst 1762 London, King's Theatre)

see also following sites
http://itspettacolo.net/spettacolo/C...hino-155C.html
http://search.yahoo.com/search?csz=&...tlibraries.org
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/reader/03930...=search-inside
http://www.italianopera.org/opera/gi...o_cocchiE.html
http://www.italianopera.org/compositori/C/c217658E.htm
http://www.musicweb-international.co...ov01/kings.htm

04-16-2006, 04:04 AM	#80
yanni publisher wanted Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 491	Cocchi, Gioacchino. The "musical" part of this family history research has been neglected thus far, Giulio and Francesca Caccini, the opera founders, only briefly mentioned in "What's in a name?" post along with the "Cochi" name version of the fiorentines. Gioachino Cocchi, another opera composer, unlike his contemporary musicians, has been deprived of a decent biography, propably because he, "Gioachino", was another alias of Saint Germain himself. Music "scholars" even disagree on Gioachino's life span, some claiming he was born in Padova, 1720 and died "after 1788", others do not define the place of his 1714 birth and ask themselves if Venice was where he really died in 1804. Taking therefore Mr Goncour's word for granted, we can safely say that Paris is where he was born in 1714 or 13 and Hydra is where he died in 1803 (as mentioned in previous posts). Gioachino is known to have composed some 50 music opera pieces and to have been Haymarket theater's manager in London from 1757 to 1762 being then replaced by noneother than J.C.Bach himself, and to have then remained in London for the better part of the next ten years or so, ie until about 1772. Many of his music works were published there by a Mr I.Walsh during 1758-1776, the last being the folowing: Le Delizie dell'Opere. Being a Collection of all the Favourite Songs in Score, collected from the Operas compos'd by Bach, Perez, Cocchi, Ciampi, Jomelli, Giardini, Galuppi, Vinci, Pergolesi, Leo, Lampugnani, Terradellas, Hasse, Porpora, C. St Germain, Pescetti, Veracini, Bononcini ISBN: B0000CV06Q / Unknown Binding Publisher: Printed for I. Walsh / 1776 http://www.bookfinder4u.co.uk/book_s.../D_Cocchi.html In other words Saint Germain "the immortal", was an unbelievably complex personality with a great sense of humor, a biographer's true nightmare. Below: a) a 1763 "Walsh" book copypasted for the biography details ......... 1763. COCCHI, Gioacchino ca. 1720 - after 1788. Sixteen Songs and Duets With a Thorough Bass for the Harpsichord Also Adapted for the Violin, Hautboy, German Flute, Guitar & Violoncello. [Vocal score]. Opera LXIII. London: 1763. Oblong octavo. Modern half dark orange leather with marbled boards. 1f. (title), 1f. (dedication), pp. 1-8, [9] (blank), 10-16, [17] (blank), 18-60 (some browning and staining to title-page; occasional minor foxing and browning). Engraved throughout, with engraver's name to foot of last page (Pasquali). First Edition. BUC p. 202. RISM C3239 (4 copies only, one in the U.S.). Cocchi was music director at the Haymarket Theatre in London from 1757 to 1762. "During the next five seasons he supervised the production of opere serie, composed several himself and contributed to pasticcios." Cocchi was succeeded by J.C. Bach at the Haymarket in 1762, but continued to live in London for about ten more years, during which time he published several collections of chamber arias and duets, this being one of them. He was also much in demand as a singing teacher. Grove VI, Vol. 4 p. 509.http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/lub/12182.shtml and b) a list of perfromances of "Joachino's" plays, indicatory of the mobility and the approximate whereabouts of their creator as well. Noteworthy his "egyptian or eastern" works after 1745 (first trip of Lazarus Cochini to Alexandria in 1745. Note also: Saint Germain's italian trip with de Marigny, Mme Pombadour's brother, Dec 1749 to Sept 1751) as well as his London performances AFTER 1761 (Second voyage of Lazarus C to Alexandria in 1757) Cocchi, Gioacchino * ca. 1715 † 1804 in Venedig (?) La Matilde comedia per musica 2 Akte Antonio Palomba (Winter 1739 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini) Adelaide dpm 3 Akte Antonio Salvi (Karneval 1743 Rom, Teatro Alibert o delle Dame) L'Elisa commedia per musica 3 Akte Palomba (Herbst 1744 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini) L'Irene commedia per musica 3 Akte Domenico Canicà (Frühjahr 1745 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini) L'ipocondriaco risanato intermezzo 2 Akte Carlo Goldoni (Karneval 1746 Rom, Teatro Valle) Bajazette dpm 3 Akte Agostino Piovene (Karneval 1746 Rom, Teatro Alibert o delle Dame) I due fratelli beffati commedia per musica 3 Akte Eugenio Pigrugispano (Winter 1746 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo) La maestra commedia per musica 3 Akte Palomba (Karneval 1747 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo); rev. als La scuola moderna Herbst 1748 Venedig; 11. März 1749 London, King's Theatre; als La Scaltra Governatrice 25. Jan. 1753 Paris, Académie de musique Merope dpm 3 Akte Apostolo Zeno (20. Jan. 1748 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo) Siface dpm 3 Akte Pietro Metastasio (Karneval 1749 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo) Arminio dpm 3 Akte Salvi (Karneval 1749 Rom, Teatro di Torre Argentina) La serva bacchettona commedia per musica 3 Akte Palomba (Frühjahr 1749 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini) La Gismonda commedia 3 Akte Palomba (Frühjahr 1750 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini) Bernardone commedia 3 Akte Palomba (Karneval 1750 Palermo, Teatro privato Valguarner)i Siroe, re di Persia dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (Karneval 1750 Venedig, Teatro San Giovanni Grisostomo) La mascherata dramma comico 3 Akte Goldoni (27. Dez. 1751 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano) Le donne vendicate dramma comico 3 Akte Goldoni (Karneval 1751 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano) Nitocri dpm 3 Akte Zeno (26. Dez. 1751 Turin, Teatro Regio) Sesostri, re d'Egitto dpm 3 Akte Zeno und Pietro Pariati (30. Mai 1752 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo) Il tutore commedia 2 Akte Vincenzo Puccinelli (Karneval 1752 Rom, Teatro Valle) Il finto cieco melodramma 2 Akte Pietro Trinchera (Herbst 1752 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo); gemeinsam mit Pasquale Errichelli La serva astuta commedia per musica 3 Akte Antonio Palomba, nach Goldoni Frühjahr 1753 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini (gemeinsam mit Pasquale Errichelli) Semiramide riconosciuta dramma 3 Akte Metastasio (Karneval 1753 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano); 1771 London, King's Theatre Rosmira fedele dramma 3 Akte Silvio Stampiglia (Himmelfahrtstag 1753 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele) Il pazzo glorioso dramma giocoso 3 Akte Antonio Villani (Herbst 1753 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano) Il finto turco commedia 2 Akte Antonio Palomba/P. Errichelli (Winter 1753 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini (rev. Fassung Winter 1753 ebd.); gemeinsam mit Errichelli Le nozze di Monsù Fagotto intermezzo 2 Akte (zus. mit G. B. Pescetti) Angelu Lunghi (Karneval 1754 Rom, Teatro Valle) Tamerlano dramma 3 Akte Agostino Piovene (Karneval 1754 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele) Metastasio (Himmelfahrtstag 1754 Venedig, Teatro Vendramin a San Salvatore) Li matti per amore dramma giocoso 3 Akte Genuaro Antonio Federico (Herbst 1754 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele) Il terrazzano intermezzi per musica (Karneval 1754 Florenz, Teatro del Cocomero); 1764 London, King's Theatre Il cavaliere errante op.buf. Agostino Medici (Karneval 1755 Ferrara, Teatro Bonacossi) Andromeda dpm 3 Akte Vittorio Amadeo Cigna-Santi (Karneval 1755 Turin, Teatro Regio) Artaserse dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (Karneval 1755 Reggio Emilia, Teatro Moderno) Zoe dpm 3 Akte Francesco Silvani (26. Dez. 1755 Venedig, Teatro San Benedetto) Emira dpm 3 Akte (Jan. 1756 Mailand, Regio Ducal Teatro) Farsetta in musica commedia 2 Akte Lunghi? (Karneval 1757 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) Demetrio, re di Siria dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (8. Nov. 1757 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) Zenobia dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (10. Jan. 1758 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) Issipile dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (Frühjahr 1758 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) Ciro riconosciuto dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (Frühjahr 1759 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) La clemenza di Tito dpm 3 Akte Metastasio (5. Jan. 1760 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) Erginda dpm 3 Akte nach M. Noris (Frühjahr 1760 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi) Tito Manlio dramma 3 Akte Noris (7. Febr. 1761 London, King's Theatre) Alessandro nelle Indie dramma 3 Akte Metastasio (13. Okt. 1761 London, King's Theatre) Le nozze di Dorina dramma giocoso 3 Akte Goldoni (Frühjahr 1762 London, King's Theatre) La famiglia in scompiglio dramma giocoso 3 Akte Giovan Gualberto Bottarelli (Herbst 1762 London, King's Theatre) see also following sites http://itspettacolo.net/spettacolo/C...hino-155C.html http://search.yahoo.com/search?csz=&...tlibraries.org http://www.amazon.ca/gp/reader/03930...=search-inside http://www.italianopera.org/opera/gi...o_cocchiE.html http://www.italianopera.org/compositori/C/c217658E.htm http://www.musicweb-international.co...ov01/kings.htm Last edited by yanni; 04-17-2006 at 01:40 AM.