Anyone here using mindmapping?

[ClaesGefvenberg]

There is nothing in between because a "either ... or"-question gives you just two options not three.

Oh, I don't know about that... Point taken of course, but if you ask people what they think about something I would say that there is room for more than the extremes?

If you were to ask whether they are for or against, on the other hand...

/Claes

[Virgil]

Interesting. I have never used mind mapping. I have my own techniques of thinking out of the box and orgainzing ideas and thought processes. I have used a similar looking construct to communicate in a briefing the logic and flow of a situation or a plan, such as a fishbone diagram.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

Interesting. I have never used mind mapping. I have my own techniques of thinking out of the box and orgainzing ideas and thought processes. I have used a similar looking construct to communicate in a briefing the logic and flow of a situation or a plan, such as a fishbone diagram.

Actually, I often use mind maps instead of fishbone diagrams. The only difference between the two, when you use them that way is the format. In fact, I would say that by using fishbone diagrams you have been using mind mapping without realiziing it.

What other techniques btw? Maybe I can learn something.

/Claes

[Virgil]

Actually, I often use mind maps instead of fishbone diagrams. The only difference between the two, when you use them that way is the format. In fact, I would say that by using fishbone diagrams you have been using mind mapping without realiziing it.

What other techniques btw? Maybe I can learn something.

/Claes

Sure. You catch me at home, so I have to go by memory. One of the things I do is like a blurt out brainstorm with a 15 or 30 min stop watch time limit. I just jot down every concievable notion (practical or not) in that time period that my solve the problem or whatever. Then I'll give myself a break, come back to it, and then try to flesh them out on how to make them practical. Most will fall out but some might stick, and we'll discuss them and assess and go forward. When I remember others I'll get back to you.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

Good one. Thank's

When I remember others I'll get back to you.

Great

/Claes

[rachel]

hullo,
Welcome, I know a little late but I have been off forum and came back for a while only because I kept having to empty my box anyway. This is less exhausting.
Well about mind mapping,
If any brave soul can actually find mine,they are more than welcome to map it.

[IrishCanadian]

Brillient answere rach ... I think my mind is off in a similar place as yours seems to be.
bananas are yummy

[rachel]

hullo darling Irish. bananas are yummy, especially fried and drizzled with chocolate.
perhaps Claes can map our minds and figure out where that little bit of info was stashed and what it was related to.
Claes you bike, wow you must be in super shape. your face rather suggests that.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

perhaps Claes can map our minds and figure out where that little bit of info was stashed and what it was related to.

Alas, no. To do that I would have to be able to read minds, which I am not (even though my wife sometimes requires me to do so. Thus far I have been unable to comply).

Claes you bike, wow you must be in super shape. your face rather suggests that.

Thank you ever so much, my dear. To be honest, my face may not be up to closer scrutiny (it is a tiny picture after all ), but yes: The rest of me is in pretty good shape.

/Claes

[rachel]

hahahahahahahaha that is funny. I am quite confident your face is very nice.
I am rather disappointed that you don't read minds though, perhaps you simply haven't tapped deeper into that marvellous brain of yours. I have a sneaking suspicion your wife is probably correct about your ability and you simply don't wish to acknowledge the truth of it because you'll be on that bike of yours doing errands for her in the middle of the night.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

I am quite confident your face is very nice.

Thank's. I suppose it'd better be, because I'm not getting a new one.

I am rather disappointed that you don't read minds though,

Sigh... So is my missus. Are all ladies expecting that of your blokes? Sorry to have to break this to you, but you are in for a major disappointment. What I mean to say is: We really try, but it's no go... There are many conclusions based on (very) insufficient data going on, of course, but that's all.

perhaps you simply haven't tapped deeper into that marvellous brain of yours.

Believe me, I would not go too deep in there. Who knows what I'll find?

I have a sneaking suspicion your wife is probably correct about your ability and you simply don't wish to acknowledge the truth...

I knew you'd say tha... Errr... Ooops! I mean: Noooooo! I have very selective hearing, though. Does that count?

/Claes

[rachel]

hahahahahaha, of course that counts.
I personally believe ladies are guilty of nagging poor guys day and night. If I were a guy I would hone selective hearing to an awesome art form!!
At any rate can you explain to me what mind mapping does that say just thinking in your every day way doesn't when you want to accomplish something? It sounds very intriguing and i must have went to schools that weren't in to it or it was called something else.

[blp]

I've used them, sometimes with surprising results. Xamonas and Emily, you seem to be afraid that using them will simply reinforce the chaos of your thoughts. Have you actually tried them? It's not like that - and this idea that it's because you're a certain kind of person who thinks very laterally is a big assumption. From what I can gather, hardly anyone has incredibly coherent thoughts on a subject right away - and that can be quite a good thing, in that all sorts of odd associations may be relevant. What's nice about a mind map is it allows you to start with what you've got - a jumble - and quickly begin to piece the elements of that jumble together. It's not a way of increasing the chaos of your thought processes but ordering them without undue force. And while you're doing it, your mind will very likely hit on more things you can use.

Claes, what's the work you use mindmaps for? I mean, what's your job?

[rachel]

that is very interesting blp,
so to me what you are saying is that it is a lot of puzzle pieces on the table. You pick one up and then another and fit them all together for a completed picture?

more poetic and prose works from you blp please please please.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

I personally believe ladies are guilty of nagging poor guys day and night.

Er... Perhaps I'd better refrain from commenting on that? Nah, I'll comment: I agree

If I were a guy I would hone selective hearing to an awesome art form!!

Ummmm. I know quite a few ladies who have mastered the art...

At any rate can you explain to me what mind mapping does that say just thinking in your every day way doesn't when you want to accomplish something?

You know... I think blp just did that. Great explanation:

What's nice about a mind map is it allows you to start with what you've got - a jumble - and quickly begin to piece the elements of that jumble together. It's not a way of increasing the chaos of your thought processes but ordering them without undue force. And while you're doing it, your mind will very likely hit on more things you can use.

Quite so... (In particular that part about hitting on more things). It provides a clear overview of your thoughts on the subject, which is something you don't easily do in your head. One major advantage is that you will spot any logical flaws very fast: They will prevent you from completing the map!

Claes, what's the work you use mindmaps for? I mean, what's your job?

I'm a Quality Engineer, spending most of my time on various business management systems. See http://elsmar.com/Forums/index.php for more info. I do a lot of posting there. I'll enclose another example map with this post: A summary of reasons for why 100% inspection will fail to catch 100% of the defects the inspector(s) look for.

Apart from that, I use mind maps for just about anything. It's a very versatile tool. I use them for meeting minutes for instance: If I pull a map from several years back, I'm able to regurgitate most of what was said in a meeting of several hours from that single (A4) page.

it is a lot of puzzle pieces on the table. You pick one up and then another and fit them all together for a completed picture?

I think that is more or less it.

/Claes