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  1. It would be easier to lead off a large group of...

    It would be easier to lead off a large group of Proles away from Oceania proper and set up a new nation in a messianic way.

    All you have to do? Be Jesus. Or Moses.
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    Depending on what the paper is for tho, I might...

    Depending on what the paper is for tho, I might want to stay away from an 'Orthodoxy' argument.

    This would depend on the Teacher of course, but I've known a few college professors who live and...
  3. Thread: 2 questions

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    No current politics discussed here man. It...

    No current politics discussed here man.

    It gets people angry, and leads to extremely unproductive debates. Debates that are best characterized as several people waving madly to their respective...
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    Julia's character could also be a representation...

    Julia's character could also be a representation of the aimless rebellion of youth.
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    You could also go into some vague detail on the...

    You could also go into some vague detail on the recurring portrayal of O'Brian and Big Brother as father figures.
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    By the time Orwell published 1984, many...

    By the time Orwell published 1984, many interesting things were happening in Europe. One of the worst blights on humanity being Sociologists. Although they did not pop up all at once during this...
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    Yeah I think that's the case. There is no...

    Yeah I think that's the case.

    There is no explicit class they're ever labeled to. They're probably people who function, for the most part, outside of the class system.

    Which, if true, would...
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    I like Christianity, alot. It's got great...

    I like Christianity, alot.

    It's got great morals, and many great parables to guide your life by.

    But one thing that bugs me about Christianity is it's obsessive need to impress the belief...
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    Some people are carted out to the public before...

    Some people are carted out to the public before their execution (also public).

    People will have disappear and never return, in cases where their imprisonment and death are inconvenient to the aims...
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    I think the more important question is: what's...

    I think the more important question is: what's the difference?

    Love can be broadly defined as an intense emotional connection between two people. By comparison to a society like ours, their love...
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    The result is the same, but the intent is...

    The result is the same, but the intent is drastically different. The similarities between today and the world of 1984 are motivated primarily by profits, not a desire to control.
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    The passage you're talking about was when Winston...

    The passage you're talking about was when Winston was convinced that Julia looked dead, corpse-like as she's covered in white plaster.

    The passage is a little misleading, I had to reread it a...
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    I honestly believe that portion of the book was...

    I honestly believe that portion of the book was just to more humanize the two characters.

    It's a little more like real life, not some stereotyped sit-com where the woman always cowers while the...
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    Same thing that would happen if they were caught...

    Same thing that would happen if they were caught just being together. Except maybe they'd get doused with cold water first.
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    There is one significant difference between 1949...

    There is one significant difference between 1949 and today.

    The advent of global economy.

    In my opinion, a Totalitarian state is more likely to emerge from the corporate world now, rather than...
  16. Thread: The Pawn Shop

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    They were imbued with obedience. It's something...

    They were imbued with obedience. It's something they rehearsed every day, every hour, every minute. Do what you're told.

    Behavior pattern that becomes really hard to break spontaneously.
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    http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread...

    http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1452

    Two possibilities, a song and a poem that start exactly the same way the song in 1984 does. I think the song is a dead ringer tho.
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    It's a little more than that. That is one...

    It's a little more than that. That is one obvious reason for it, but it also removes the amounts of thought imbued in every-day speech. There is a tremendous amount of meaning, for example, in the...
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    1984 applies to 2007 as much as it did to the...

    1984 applies to 2007 as much as it did to the year it was published.

    It's simply a grim warning of the ruthlessness of totalitarianism, as well as a statement of the next level of totalitarianism.
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    I saw that Goldstein's book was also George...

    I saw that Goldstein's book was also George Orwell's grand reveal: 'This is how the world of 1984 works.' I think we can take most of what is said there as true.
  21. I think it ends where Winston Smith as a person...

    I think it ends where Winston Smith as a person of individual thought dies. Whatever continues is not who Winston Smith was, not after that moment where he feels pride for Oceana.

    I think it is...
  22. Thread: gas prices

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    No no he has a point! Remember how we all...

    No no he has a point!

    Remember how we all applaud the government for personally lowering the gas prices to what they are now?

    Good thing we have the government doing that for us, lowering gas...
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    That is extremely presumptuous of you. You...

    That is extremely presumptuous of you.

    You don't live in their country. Of course their country doesn't exist, so I'll just use a modern example.

    Iraq.

    The big problem in Iraq right now,...
  24. Thread: Newspeak

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    I would have to disagree. Altho there are...

    I would have to disagree.

    Altho there are similarities, the employment of economy of written words (fewer letters for more meaning), for the most part IMs are sent in abbreviations for several...
  25. Thread: The Children

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    The children are not picked because of...

    The children are not picked because of themselves, per-say. The function they fulfill by being the snitches isn't just to be part of the self-policing force of population, there's more to it.

    The...
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