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    unlike some people, i think that this parallel is...

    unlike some people, i think that this parallel is accurate. the Proles were brainwashed [I love that word] by the ministry of truth, teenagers are Brainwashe by the Media
    Proles are stupid
    the...
  2. 1984 was one of the best books i've ever read,...

    1984 was one of the best books i've ever read, other than "The Hitler Virus" by the late Peter Wyden, and "Ghetto in Flames, the destruction of Vilna Jewry".
    It is a masterwork of our time, and...
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    1. What do your think is Orwell's opinion about...

    1. What do your think is Orwell's opinion about religion?
    Because he was a Socialist, it is likely that he was not religious, but, being in England, likely didn't hate people who were.
    2. What...
  4. Thread: The proles

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    No kidding. Because your in government, the...

    No kidding.

    Because your in government, the US political system states that you are untouchable iif you are the president. It's a flaw in the system, but the people don't have the ability to do...
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    exactly. Keep the one thing you fear most off...

    exactly.

    Keep the one thing you fear most off the populace's mind, and it won't happen.
  6. Thread: hope?

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    I'm fully aware of that. however, Orwell...

    I'm fully aware of that. however, Orwell intended for there to be no hope for the present-day characters in that book
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    no, because the inner party is so corrupted, and...

    no, because the inner party is so corrupted, and so dominated by Big Brother that they have it in their heads that Big Brother is all powerful. the only one ever to revolt was Goldstein, and they...
  8. Thread: The proles

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    I think the fact is that the proles did have...

    I think the fact is that the proles did have power, but because they have been manipulated, opressed, tortured, brainwashed, and in some cases, killed, by BB. As a result, Big Brother destroyed and...
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    Sticky: I don't like the rule when related to Orwell's...

    I don't like the rule when related to Orwell's works. I think that there is plenty of relevence towards todays politics.

    I fail to see a problem with intellectuals stating their current political...
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    Essay for English, Orwell

    People, people, people,

    YA GOTTA HELP ME!
    I'm doing this pain in the arss english project involving 1984. please read over, and giver suggestions!

    Would mucho appreciato!

    Historical...
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    Well Teacher, for your info, once upon a time,...

    Well Teacher, for your info, once upon a time, there was a government with enough power to prevent protests, voicing of opinions, and freedom of speech. If you disagreed with the party, you were...
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    Yeah, plues, they are the lowest class, the peons...

    Yeah, plues, they are the lowest class, the peons of society [sorry to coin the WCIII term]. Big Brother knows that they are too hopeless to do anything about it, and that they don't have enough...
  13. actually, yeah, i kindof agree with you, and i...

    actually, yeah, i kindof agree with you, and i kindof don't.
    I'm doublethinking!

    Your right. it is representative, but it often represents real life situations. I'm not saying that Big Brother...
  14. Thread: war???

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    Yeah, there is a reason why Oceania isn't called...

    Yeah, there is a reason why Oceania isn't called the USSR, because its based on the US's allies.

    think, here is who is in Oceania

    Canada
    USA
    Mexico
    Central America
    All of South America...
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    Honestly, I've made 12 posts so far, and only...

    Honestly,

    I've made 12 posts so far, and only two have been replied to. What's up? It's not like I just said "OK everyone, conversation's over".
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    yeah, its cause they've been hopelessly...

    yeah, its cause they've been hopelessly brainwashed.
  17. Big brother, for your info, represents Stalin,...

    Big brother, for your info, represents Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, Franco, Mao, and Mussolini all at the same time.

    In addition, I would call Winston a "Flawed and Lazy Idealist". he keeps expecting...
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    Actually, here is alist Napolean: Stalin...

    Actually, here is alist

    Napolean: Stalin
    Snowball: Leon Trotsky
    Old major: Karl marx
    Boxer: Working Class
    Dogs: KGB
    Raven: Russian Orthodox church
    Mr. Jones: Romanov Dynasty, more...
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    The one thing none of you get is the fact that...

    The one thing none of you get is the fact that this is based on the cold war. people in the US were unsure of who the real enemy was, and it constantly switched back and forth. because the people...
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    teacher doesn't notice little details. Notice...

    teacher doesn't notice little details.

    Notice how, when Obrien invites them in, he is able to turn off the telescreen. that's power only inner party members have. Notice that he never mentions...
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    Bingo, you've hit the mark perfectly. Winston...

    Bingo, you've hit the mark perfectly. Winston and Julia should have probably tuned into the fact that Winston is able to turn off his telescreen. Only inner party members can do that, but they were...
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    thanks. I love having people agree with me.

    thanks.

    I love having people agree with me.
  23. Squealer actually represents the Russian...

    Squealer actually represents the Russian Propoganda Newspapers, known as the Pravda. He can also be paralled to the MInistry of Truth [See 1984 for details], because he manipulates the truth to...
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    Easy 1: Nineteen Eighty Four, George Orwell...

    Easy

    1: Nineteen Eighty Four, George Orwell
    2: Harry Potter Six
    3: Animal Farm, George orwell
    4: Night of Blood, Margeret Weiss
    5: Return of the King, Tokien
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    True, I agree with you. Oh, and Josh, DON'T...

    True, I agree with you.
    Oh, and Josh,

    DON'T BE RACIST!!!!!
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