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  1. Thread: Four Ones

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    Thank you.

    Thank you.
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    I find Villette such a heart-breakingly sad...

    I find Villette such a heart-breakingly sad novel. Lucy's feeling of complete isolation and deprived of love, without wanting to be simplistic, sounds like depression to me. It's a very incisive...
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    I love Wuthering Heights- it has the quality of a...

    I love Wuthering Heights- it has the quality of a fever dream, there's no attempt to be refined and literary. I think it speaks most strongly to people who come from that kind of remote rural place,...
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    Has anyone seen the recent BBC version?

    Has anyone seen the recent BBC version?
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    Good call. I recommend Sons and Lovers, and maybe...

    Good call. I recommend Sons and Lovers, and maybe Women in Love.

    Lolita would be a more unconventional choice.
  6. Well, classic literature does tend to have...

    Well, classic literature does tend to have old-fashioned morals. You might enjoy reading some well-written children's literature from the period, like The Secret Garden or Little Women.
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    Hi Livi, If you read the play and watch the...

    Hi Livi,

    If you read the play and watch the film, then jot down the differences that you have noticed between both, that will give you a good starting point. It is worth remembering that when the...
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    Pretty much all the villains in Shakespeare are...

    Pretty much all the villains in Shakespeare are outsiders and/or illegitimate. In some cases, such as Don John, being a bastard may just be an easy shorthand for villainy; he's a bit of a weak...
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    I thought Rochester just kind of had a rough look...

    I thought Rochester just kind of had a rough look about him. He managed to pick up Adele's mother plus Bertha so presumably there is something attractive about him, if not his looks.
  10. Thread: Would You??

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    I wouldn't lie because I wouldn't want people...

    I wouldn't lie because I wouldn't want people judging me- or indeed me judging myself negatively.

    If a friend fell in love with a tree, married it and then insisted you acknowledge the tree as her...
  11. True, though adulterous women do suffer in a way...

    True, though adulterous women do suffer in a way that men don't in literature- but that was a true depiction of what happened back then and maybe even still happens now. If women get a hard time in...
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    Part of their ugliness is down to their...

    Part of their ugliness is down to their swarthiness, which in those days was a mark of villainy but the 'tall dark stranger' is now considered appealing, with people making their skin darker through...
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    There aren't any sex scenes between Cathy and...

    There aren't any sex scenes between Cathy and Heathcliff or even implied. True, there are scenes with sexual undertones but Heathcliff has a very physical desire for Cathy. Had they actually had sex,...
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    I will imminently be reading it out of morbid...

    I will imminently be reading it out of morbid curiosity. To be fair, it seems to be the standard Mills and Boon set-up and those books are very popular so it's not as if it's unprecedented. A lot of...
  15. Generally they are wrongly accused of adultery...

    Generally they are wrongly accused of adultery (Hermione, Imogen, Hero). Cressida is unfaithful though (I don't know if it's technically adultery) and Titania commits adultery. Helena and Marina...
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    Poll: Who is your favourite Rochester?

    I'll give my opinion:

    - Orson Welles: though he is the least attractive Rochester, I thought he was excellent. He looks decidedly unconventional and radiates a kind of brutish sexuality- the kind...
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    Rebecca definitely :)

    Rebecca definitely :)
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    Hardy is excellent; probably my favourite writer....

    Hardy is excellent; probably my favourite writer. Along with Charlotte and Emily Bronte, and later Lawrence, he shook off the stuffy Victorian-style narratives and wrote novels with vivid characters...
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    I adore The Rainbow! I love how candidly it...

    I adore The Rainbow! I love how candidly it speaks about sexuality and how Ursula finds fulfilment.
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    You could also look at films like Metropolis. ...

    You could also look at films like Metropolis.

    Maybe look into the history of urbanisation.
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    That's a very broad question, particularly seeing...

    That's a very broad question, particularly seeing as social attitudes have changed towards homosexuality.

    I also find that in literature, you often get a more open spectrum of sexuality. It's not...
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    Interesting looking back at something I wrote...

    Interesting looking back at something I wrote five years ago...

    I think that the speaker wants the object of their affection to suffer the pain of unrequited love and the frustration that they...
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    The translated version of Bonjour Tristesse read...

    The translated version of Bonjour Tristesse read very smoothly for me.
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    Francois Sagan?

    Francois Sagan?
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    Literature (and other forms of art) teach us...

    Literature (and other forms of art) teach us imaginative empathy and also open up our knowledge of other periods/cultures/social groups that we wouldn't encounter in our everyday lives. It's not a...
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